My goodness, the more I think about this subject, the stronger I feel about it. I'm writing letters to doctors, insurance compaines, and drafting one for politicians. I'm sorry if I'm being odd on these forums, I just can't seem to let it go.
I guess I just wanted to say I know where you're comming from and that I'm glad to hear it's not just me
Maybe if there are enough of us, it will make a difference, sure couldn't hurt anyways!
You are right on target in everything you said. It's odd how the more you understand it, the madder you get, isn't it? We think the Africans are bad and we've got our own dirty little secret quietly hidden in our pants.
If you're crazy, better get me a straight jacket and padded room. I've been like this for forty years. Surely I'm some kind of danger to society.
I've seen some real ugly penises, crooked scars and bent shafts and funny skin things. I'm sure if they did it at 9 years it would at least be straight! (That's the norm in Turkey, for one). And the "right" amount of skin would be taken off, rather than too much.
Edited: I am ANTI circumsion. I just realized my post might give an opposite impression.
After 4 m/c, our is here!
Circumcision is not like plastic surgery where they are trying to achieve a certain effect and hide scars, remove wrinkles, disguise skin inconsistencies and repair defects. It's more of an attitude of just get it done and move on to something else. After all, the patient isn't going to complain and few parents complain unless there is something glaringly wrong. A clamping, crushing, tearing procedure is not likely to win any "Awards of Excellence" for cosmetic surgery. Heck, few people are likely to see it anyway so why should they take pains to try to make it look better?
But...there is a very real risk that a woman will end up needing a mastectomy. The rate for breast cancer is 1 in 9, not all of which is noticed at the early stages.
Still, if I had a mastectomy I'd sure want it done while I was an adult!
Thank you for another reason to wait to have it done, only if it's really needed (which is rare, I understand). That makes a lot of sense. If you can't see what you're cutting, it makes it a bit harder!
Someone else mentioned RIC so it doesn't have to be done later is "circumcision to prevent circumcision." I thought that made a lot of sense too. =)
You guys are great. =)
My Father had open heart surgery. He was in some pain the first couple of days but he was trying to be the tough guy and when he mentioned it to the nurses, he would get additional pain medication so that he was comfortable. In open heart surgery, they have to break the breast bone to get access tothe heart, make very large incisions and there is substantial cutting inside the body.
The same is true of many types of surgery and in every case the surgeons are able to prescribe pain medications to make the patient reasonably comfortable.
Adult circumcision is a minor procedure almost always performed on an outpatient basis and requiring local anesthesia and 30-45 minutes to complete.
Now, if they can minimize the pain in these very complicated, invasive surgeries, how can it be that the relatively minor pain of circumcision not be handled? The truth is that the physician knows that this is very minor surgery and doesn't give the man pain medications and the man doesn't ask for them.
I suspect all of the stories of excrutiating pain is made up by the pro-circ folks to advance their agenda.
Infants usually feel more pain than adults do. An example is shots - when I get a shot, I grit my teeth and it's over. When dd gets one, she screams for several minutes.
Circ is easier for doctors to do on an infant because they are defenseless, and also cheaper for the parents because adults require general anesthesia.
Also i think people think it hurts a man more because he complains more vocally and know what he lost.
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