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My friends oldest son will be enlisting in the Army and she is worried that they will have him circumcised once he is enlisted. She thinks that once he has his physical they will realize he is not circumcised and will make him get a circumcised to enlist in the Army. The recruiter had mention to her son that during the physical they check his penis and testicals for any abnormal issues. I didn't think they cared if the person was circumcised or not? But she think the military perfers all guys be circumcised when they enlist.

Does anyone know if they require guys to be circumcised?
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Um, it's against the law for them to require someone to undergo cosmetic surgery.
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I cannot imagine that is a requirement!

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It does not. I used to be a female soldier. I saw some penii back then.

They're absolutely desperate for bodies. Circed or not.

Back in WWII, some people say that circ was pushed, but there is no evidence that it was ever formally required.
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It's not. My ex boyfriend was in the Army and intact.

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I have 2 uncles in the Air Force and a cousin in the Army, all intact
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It does not. I used to be a female soldier. I saw some penii back then.

They're absolutely desperate for bodies. Circed or not.

Back in WWII, some people say that circ was pushed, but there is no evidence that it was ever formally required.

Were you a medic in the army?
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Thanks for all your help...I will forward these responses to my friend. Thanks again!
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Were you a medic in the army?
heehee... um, no. You gotta remember the ratios of men to women on active duty is like 10-to-1. And I was young.
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heehee... um, no. You gotta remember the ratios of men to women on active duty is like 10-to-1. And I was young.
Oh I understand.. sorry a little slow. So I guess you would have a good idea of the intact vs. circ status. Thanks again.
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It does not. I used to be a female soldier. I saw some penii back then.

They're absolutely desperate for bodies. Circed or not.

Back in WWII, some people say that circ was pushed, but there is no evidence that it was ever formally required.
I don't think it was required, but STDs and cancer were the fears of the day, and men were equated as "traitors" if they got an STD- and circ was said to cure it so.... yes, men were circ'd during WWII.

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I don't think it was required, but STDs and cancer were the fears of the day, and men were equated as "traitors" if they got an STD- and circ was said to cure it so.... yes, men were circ'd during WWII.

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I know. My grandfather was circed during WWII. Nobody seems to know why exactly, but it has fueled three generations now of cut boys. What a legacy, huh?
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heehee... um, no. You gotta remember the ratios of men to women on active duty is like 10-to-1. And I was young.
Sorry, just lurking over but this is hilarious. I was a "queen for a year" myself so i know what you're saying. even though I was married I never bought a drink all year
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Sorry, just lurking over but this is hilarious. I was a "queen for a year" myself so i know what you're saying. even though I was married I never bought a drink all year
I wanted to go to Korea soooo bad when I first enlisted. Exotic! Exciting! Far from home!

My dad, who'd been in already, firmly and unequivocally forbade that.
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My FIL was a marine, and they did put pressure on a lot of men who were not circed to get circed. This is why even though my FIL is intact he and MIL had DH circed. He didn't want his son to have to o through that later as an adult.

So maybe it's those type of stories that your friend is hearing. In the 1950's who knows why they pushed some men to circ yet left FIL intact, but they did. Maybe they thought he took better care of his foreskin.
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My grandpa was in Korea and managed to survive military service intact.

Sadly, despite my grandpa being intact, my uncle was circumcised and had his two sons circ'd. Meanwhile, my aunts who had sons kept them intact, as I have done with my son. Interesting how it's being carried along by the male line of the family.
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Does anyone know if they require guys to be circumcised?
My USAF DH says that will not happen. He's also told me that they marked him as "abnormal" for being circumcised.

Remember that many non US citizens join the US military, and many of them are intact.
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LTR here with an intact ex military guy.
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DH is in the army and is intact.
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BIL is in the national guard and is intact. My sis hasn't mentioned any issues at all, so I doubt there are any. She's very anti-circ, so I know she'd mention if he'd been pressured. Now the vaxes they force them to get, that's a whole other story...

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BIL is in the national guard and is intact. My sis hasn't mentioned any issues at all, so I doubt there are any. She's very anti-circ, so I know she'd mention if he'd been pressured. Now the vaxes they force them to get, that's a whole other story...

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Like everyone else said, no circ required...I worked at a VA hospital and I had some intact patients.
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My FIL was in the Navy during WWII, and came home intact. He was influenced by the horror storiews he heard, however, and had both his sons circumcised.

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My grandfather "had" to be circumcised while in the Navy during the Korean War. Because of this, his sons and grandsons were circumcised. His great-grandson (my DS) is NOT. My SIL says she will have her sons circ'd, though she can't say why. I gave her tons of info, and she's not even TTC yet, so I'm hoping that I can knock some sense into her before she has any boys. I really hope we can stop the cycle of violence in our family with this generation!

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As mentioned, circ at the time of military enlistment did happen in the past.

Not anymore!
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I served four years as a Navy officer in the early 70's and remained intact without comment from anyone. Saw intact men from 18 to 75 in the showers. The Navy has never required circ although it has required that "phimosis" be cured one way or the other for one to enlist.
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Didn't have time to read the whole thread... but I seriously hope they wouldn't force intact men to get cut...

Of course, the military has been known to do some pretty silly things... :
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Thanks again everyone. I will forward the responses to my friend.
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I know. My grandfather was circed during WWII. Nobody seems to know why exactly, but it has fueled three generations now of cut boys. What a legacy, huh?
My (late) grandpa (b. 1921), who served in the Army during the war, was circ'd after WWII but not long after- I don't think. It was right around that time, I believe. He said a doctor told him he wouldn't get penile cancer- so he had it done. My OWN GRANDFATHER- a very wise, wonderful man whose life-lessons we're STILL passing down and using- got caught by a doctor giving him scare-tactics. Of course, there was no way of learning of circ's history back then and doctors were rarely argued with- even though I KNOW my grandfather was not one to be jerked around... He had one son, and I assume he is circ'd as he was born in the mid-to-late-'50's and he had his sons cut. (Born in the early 90's.) However, the story goes that they were circ'd because their mother heard from a friend whose ex-husband gave her more yeast infections than her current, circ'd husband. (Not making this up- I asked my aunt in 1998!)
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