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MSNBC has an article about the controversy surrounding circ this morning and it comes with a poll! I was the first vote! Exciting to see that 100% against, until I realized it was only little ol' me.
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Could you post a link?


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I voted !!!! But the pro circ's are out and voting scarry.
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The votes are almost 50/50 :

I voted though.
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I just voted, no circ is ahead
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No's are in the lead now!!
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Not perfect, but easily the most fair and balanced article on circumcision I've read in the mainstream press.

I voted.
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when I voted it was 40/60 with our lead so keep voting people! Let them know that we want our boys left INTACT!!!!!

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I voted! We're winning 68/32 right now.

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I voted too! We are winning!
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66 no circ now!
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61 to 39 now!
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60% now

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The intact lead has dropped to 56%... get voting everyone!

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I voted!

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It's 57% NO now.


This quote from the article really scares me, though:

"However, recent studies have prompted the group (the AAP) to review its policy on circumcision, with a decision expected within the next several months on whether changes need to be made."

And listen to the crap spewed by the AAP prez:

"These studies are just the latest to point to circumcision’s potential health benefits, says AAP president Dr. Jay E. Berkelhamer.
“There have probably been hundreds over the years showing that circumcised males have lower rates of urinary tract infections, penile cancer and a variety of STDs, including HIV,” says Berkelhamer."

"Our task is not to see the future, but to enable it."
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It's 57% NO now.


This quote from the article really scares me, though:

"However, recent studies have prompted the group (the AAP) to review its policy on circumcision, with a decision expected within the next several months on whether changes need to be made."

And listen to the crap spewed by the AAP prez:

"These studies are just the latest to point to circumcision’s potential health benefits, says AAP president Dr. Jay E. Berkelhamer.
“There have probably been hundreds over the years showing that circumcised males have lower rates of urinary tract infections, penile cancer and a variety of STDs, including HIV,” says Berkelhamer."
Yeah, I saw that, too. That could suck, especially given the bolded part.
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Yes, scary
I was just coming here to post this, I'm glad someone beat me to it
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i voted...the article brings up the New Zealand study - my personal pet peeve. I wrote the editor of MSNBC no less than 7 times with the link of the author's retraction - telling them to stop headlining that study..so I got to write again. the study is debunked - it should not be getting any more press. I do believe the journalists actually believe that if a study has been published, its TRUTH. They don't seem to understand that publishing only opens it up to peer review - and then follow up is needed....

anyway - I do like the way the poll is worded on the negative side - even summed up the argument that we don't cut off any other healthy body parts to prevent disease.
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It was 51% against when I just voted.

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It's 48/52 (yes winning)

I did notice that circers CAN'T agree on why but intactivists CAN. Yay go us!! We are united!! (72% of intactivists said ALL, whereas the circers 45% said health reasons, 43% said all, 5.4% conformity, 3.4 said religion)

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I just voted, but procirc is leading now 52% Yikes!
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I did notice that circers CAN'T agree on why but intactivists CAN. Yay go us!! We are united!! (72% of intactivists said ALL, whereas the circers 45% said health reasons, 43% said all, 5.4% conformity, 3.4 said religion)
they are just trying to make themselves feel better by saying its 'medical'.. I don't believe that at all. they use dubious medical reasons to justify being conformist. imho :
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Oh no, we are down to 47%! Come on, Vote!

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"However, recent studies have prompted the group (the AAP) to review its policy on circumcision, with a decision expected within the next several months on whether changes need to be made."

And listen to the crap spewed by the AAP prez:

"These studies are just the latest to point to circumcision’s potential health benefits, says AAP president Dr. Jay E. Berkelhamer.
“There have probably been hundreds over the years showing that circumcised males have lower rates of urinary tract infections, penile cancer and a variety of STDs, including HIV,” says Berkelhamer."
I wonder if these "recent studies", of which there have "probably been hundreds" have been done on properly cared for intact penises - or on penises that have been traumatized by ignorant medical professionals who can't resist retracting a still-fused foreskin. ARRGH!!

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