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#31 of 47 Old 05-18-2007, 08:07 PM
 
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The site I had linked to in my signature is no longer there. Neither is another site with the same info that I had bookmarked. I am easily swayed by conspiracy theory, so I think They are going around shutting up the scientists who discovered this! But CIRP still has it up, and I've linked to their article. Does it work for you now?

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There's also this one:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...030500357.html


And the Journal of Cell Biology:
http://www.jcb.org/cgi/content/full/177/1/5a

And I VERY much like this one:

The authors conclude that "Langerin is a natural barrier to HIV-1 infection, and strategies to combat infection must enhance, preserve or, at the very least, not interfere with Langerin expression and function."

Nat Med 2007.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/553129
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=17334373
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How interesting -- and scary -- that the entire article fails to mention ONCE where Langerhans cells are found. You'd never know that circumcision removes them from reading this article unless you knew (and I bet dollars to doughnuts that most Americans wouldn't) that the foreskin contains mucousal tissues.

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Yeah, plastibell = licking off by kittens.
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Oh, I can't take credit for the "licking off by kittens" phrase! That was someone else's and I borrowed it shamelessly. :

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Oh, I can't take credit for the "licking off by kittens" phrase! That was someone else's and I borrowed it shamelessly. :
I knew I'd seen it around.... but who was its originator?!
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Hmmm, possibly Jen, or possibly Sarah (who's no longer with us on this forum)???

Whoever it is, I really don't think they'd mind being quoted without attribution.

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Hmmm, possibly Jen, or possibly Sarah (who's no longer with us on this forum)???

Whoever it is, I really don't think they'd mind being quoted without attribution.
Ok. Well I'd love to stay and type about it but I'm SOOO tired. I've been working on circ stuff ALL day on the computer and such. Now its time to go snuggle with DBF.
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This is slightly OT from the article, but my MIL has sworn up and down that the plastibell didn't involve any cutting. Apparently dh was circed using the plastibell method, and she felt good about her choice because she thought it was more humane and therefore OK. She argued with me incessantly until I showed her a video of a plastibell circ.....I haven't heard a word out of her since.

Dh was born in the 70s, so I think the idea of plastibell=no cutting has been around for quite a while. :
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This is slightly OT from the article, but my MIL has sworn up and down that the plastibell didn't involve any cutting. Apparently dh was circed using the plastibell method, and she felt good about her choice because she thought it was more humane and therefore OK. She argued with me incessantly until I showed her a video of a plastibell circ.....I haven't heard a word out of her since.

Dh was born in the 70s, so I think the idea of plastibell=no cutting has been around for quite a while. :
Likely so. I wonder why having any skin on your body ROT off is preferable (even in someone's mind) to just having a cut wound.
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I knew I'd seen it around.... but who was its originator?!


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But only if it is used for good....don't give it up to the "dark" side

ETA, here is a link to the origional quote, waaaaaaaaaay back when:
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Sarah,
the Plastibell definitely uses a string. It's what cuts off the circulation and causes the skin to die and fall off.
Yeah, I remember now that it does. Whenever I had to help with one I kept my back turned almost the whole time so I didn't have to watch. One of the Dr.'s made fun of me but I didn't care. The neonatologist actually SAFETY pinned the foreskin to the clamp before he cut it. Who wants to see that?
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Yeah, I remember now that it does. Whenever I had to help with one I kept my back turned almost the whole time so I didn't have to watch. One of the Dr.'s made fun of me but I didn't care. The neonatologist actually SAFETY pinned the foreskin to the clamp before he cut it. Who wants to see that?
: I can't deal with that. I DID THIS to my boys. I had them both circ'ed, my toddler had the plastibell, my oldest did not. I can't believe I was so nonchalant about the whole thing. Makes me want to throw up.
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Oh my god. The doctor in this article is talking about circ preventing HPV and Prostate cancer? They keep coming up with things that circ can prevent!:
TO bad it can't cure dumb, nothing can!:

I am so sick and over all of the dumb ass reasons they keep throwing out there about the so called benifits of this horror!! I am so TIRED of it!:

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The site I had linked to in my signature is no longer there. Neither is another site with the same info that I had bookmarked. I am easily swayed by conspiracy theory, so I think They are going around shutting up the scientists who discovered this! But CIRP still has it up, and I've linked to their article. Does it work for you now?
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NamastePlatypus that would be a great signature line.
Circumcision does not cure dumb! Or any other condition.
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