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Circumcision will end...
1. When the word reach the young.
2. When the medical curriculum is corrected regarding the functions of the foreskin.
3. When Doctors quit asking parents if they want their ds's circumcised, instead inform the parents the care of the intact penis.
4. When Hospitals ban the practice.
5. When Insurance Companies stop covering the operation for non-medical reasons.
6. When the MGM Bill is enacted, making it LAW to protect minors from circumcision.
|OP: When do you think RIC will be a thing of the past? And what do you think will end it? The government by protecting the rights of ALL people?
The parents? The insurance carriers?
If the chips are down, the buffalo is empty.
I hate to be a pessimist but sometimes I feel like it is a long uphill battle.
When do you think RIC will be a thing of the past? And what do you think will end it?
The government by protecting the rights of ALL people?
The insurance carriers?
In my family it ended with my husband. My sons, at age 13, are very opposed to infant circumcision, and very attached to their foreskins (pun intended).
Right now there is a downward trend in infant circumcision. As these babies grow up, they (and their sisters) are more likely to convince their own spouses, friends, in-laws, and neighbors that circumcision is unnecessary. Meanwhile, I don't see doctors pushing infant circumcision, though the AAP might not ever be more forceful than it is now. So the pendulum is going to swing toward keeping boys intact, without a lot to hold it back.
This effect is going to snowball. My sons won't let any of their grandchildren be circumcised (if they can help it). The more people see and hear from intact males (and their parents, sisters, and lovers), the more people will question infant circumcision - and questioning it is the key to stopping it.
I say three generations at the most - I expect that my grandchildren will not be asked about it in the hospital.
I see no way it will end in my lifetime.
I think it's more likely that mass vaccination will end in the relatively near future.
Perpetually breastfeeding or pregnant ENFP mom to a lot of kids...wife to a midwestern nice guy...living in tropical paradise...pink cats and homebirths rock!
I don't think mass vaccination will ever end. There's no major movement to eliminate vaccinations and they're done the world over. There's no Doctors Opposing Vaccinations group. I doubt that many people want to go back to the days of getting the Mumps and the Measles. I sure don't. Can vaccines be made safer? Probably, but that goes for just about anything.
On the other hand, medical circumcision is an American oddity and isn't supported by medical evidence, nor is it done anywhere else. The only real holdups are cultural inertia, greed, and religion.
It will end, IMHO, with a lawsuit that both challenges the FGM law and sues the hell out of the ACOG.
I spoke with someone at ARC (www.arclaw.com) who informed me about something called "standing". It is a leagal term that is used to describe who has the "right" to file a lawsuit.
n. the right to file a lawsuit or file a petition
under the circumstances.
He informed me that the *most successful* way to win a
(RIC) circumcision case would be for the victim to
"OK. The victim is a baby. Babies can't file lawsuits"
(how convieient!) .
He basically said that the victim CAN file at the time he 18. He
has exactly 1 year to file before the "statute of
limitations" expires. (not much time hun? Grrrr!)
*statute of limitations*
n. a law which sets the maximum period which one can
wait before filing a lawsuit, depending on the type of
case or claim. The periods vary by state.
So the long and short of it is this: It will take 1 or
several (class-action lawsuit) 18 year old men who are
savy enough to know that they were victims of
circumcision to challenge the Big Medical Trade
Association and jointly challenge the
constitutionality of the FGM law, (which only
represents one sex not the other).
As far as money goes, I believe most attorneys collect
on a case only IF they win it. So I don't see funds as
being a problem for this 18 yr. old (they are usually
Someone needs to get behind their 18 yr. old
son one day and encourage him to file a lawsuit
against the doctor/hospital and trade Association
(likely ACOG) and sue for lack of personal consent.
The suit will be made stronger with the fact that it
is unconstitional to outlaw FGM (1996) and not MGM.
In order for the 18 year old to challenge the
constitutionality of the FGM law (this is critical
that it be challenged) he has to be 18 years old AFTER
the law came into existence. 1996.
The suitable male canidates for this lawsuit are only
birth-11 years old right now.
When they reach 18, they will have a 1 year window of
opportunity to challenge the FGM law and sue the big
medical trade association. The OB's are the ones to
target as they perform most all circs. But if a Pedi did the circ, then the target would have to be the AAP.
If a lawsuit like the one described above is filed & won, circ
will likely end in the US. The earliest time a suit
with standing can be brought is in 2014.
We have to wait until then I'm afraid, to find our man or men.
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