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#61 of 115 Old 10-02-2007, 01:51 AM
 
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Ignorance.. insanity... does it ever end? Will there come a day when baby boys keep their foreskins just as they keep their eyelids? Will we ever stop cutting our helpless babies, shooting them full of poison, leaving them to scream unaided in the middle of the night, shaming them, hitting them?!

And we wonder why this world, or this COUNTRY we call America, has gone straight to hell! :
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I just watched it on Tivo and was very disappointed. I thought for sure Dr. Oz would be against circ. I have liked him a lot in the past, and dh really likes him. Dh is just as happy we didn't circ as I am, but it sucked to watch a doc that he really likes talk about how advantageous circumcision is.:
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Because of the bit he said about cleaning and retracting the foreskin, I wonder if we can file complaints to his state's medical licensing board for spreading harmful misinformation
Wow! I think your on to something.
Thats a GREAT idea!
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Here's a forum they have to discuss this show:

http://www.oprah.com/community/thread/3919

There have already been pro-circ postings so we need our side to be heard.

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Here's a forum they have to discuss this show:

http://www.oprah.com/community/thread/3919

There have already been pro-circ postings so we need our side to be heard.

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That Dr. Oz is way off track. If all foreskins scarred down from doing their intended function of protecting the penis, intact men would never have been able to reproduce in the first place. Geez, I hope my labias don't scar down from wearing tight pants :
Not to mention the glans of a cut penis scarring like that. talk about loss of sensation.

I'm really surprised that people think Oprah would do anything but a pro-circ piece. She's not into doing good things, she's into doing things that will look good to her white, middle class, midwestern audience. And that doesn't include promoting genital integrity or breastfeeding support.
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Here's a forum they have to discuss this show:

http://www.oprah.com/community/thread/3919

There have already been pro-circ postings so we need our side to be heard.

Gillian
I've been avoiding going to this message board, because I assumed that I would get all riled up by a bunch of pro-circ posts, but I am pleasantly surprised that I encountered the opposite! there are several posts with CORRECT info on circ vs intact. Way to go mamas! If only we could get the truth aired
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The scarring comment has really been bugging me, because it is pathophysiologically impossible. Skin only scars when it is damaged through the whole epidermis to reach the dermis. There is no way that a guy's underwear rubbing on his outer foreskin is going to abrade his skin down to the dermis (unless his underwear is made of stick pins!). Does it happen to any of the body's friction points (elbows, knees, etc.)? Heck, no, because that is impossible! If a foreskin scars down, then it has been seriously traumatized or had a major infection - no way in h@# do tighty-whiteys do it.

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Sorry for all you mommas who like Oprah, but this kind of thing reiterates to me yet again that she's nothing but a trend-wh0r3 (excuse my

She's picking the big tragedy of the year, picking the current cure-all, and waving the flag of conformity, yet again. Way to go, Oprah, for yet again confirming for me the American Dream; Conformity without Reason (or research, for that matter).


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sorry if this was already mentioned, I've breezed through the previous posts, but has anyone mentioned on the Oprah Forum how she uses the facecream made of discarded foreskins (along with Barbara Walters)...something like $160 a pop for 4oz.'s ????:
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for those of us who didn't see this yesterday. I think letters are definitely in order.

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The comments are definitely anti-circ now (many from us I suspect!).
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for those of us who didn't see this yesterday. I think letters are definitely in order.

YES YES... an onslaught. Show them just how many people support intactness.

Start writing!!!
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Where do we send the letters?

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iwrote already
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Whoa, foreskin rubbing on face?

Is this for real?

(lives in a bubble...)
Bath and Body Works not only test on foreskin from newborns, they use it in the items that they sell!

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I would also suggest starting a new thread about where to write to!

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My mom called me right after she saw this and told me I should circ my son that is coming in February, also her other point was "don't you want him to look like daddy?"

Well luckily she got off the topic pretty quickly once I told her we weren't circing, but it is too bad about the promoting of circ in the media.
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Bath and Body Works not only test on foreskin from newborns, they use it in the items that they sell!
How is this possible? I dont underrstand why it wouldnt be a biohazzard.

I mean, I totally get corruptness but I just dont see how it is safe for the public.

Educate me!
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http://www.nbc10.com/health/1808693/detail.html

Also, the foreskin is used to make large amounts of skin to be used for testing--"like human yogurt" is the way one article I read puts it. The foreskin is used to culture more skin.

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Also, the foreskin is used to make large amounts of skin to be used for testing--"like human yogurt" is the way one article I read puts it. The foreskin is used to culture more skin.
Slightly OT but, if foreskin is used to culture more skin, would a reconstruction of the foreskin be possible from a circ'd man, say if he "borrowed" foreskin cells from an intact man?
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I believe there may be a foreskin reconstruction surgery out there...I have heard of surgical restoration..but i really havent read up on it. I will and get back to you!

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I've been convincing DH why we should not circ our 8month old. Yesterday he comes to me saying he watched the Oprah and how everyone should be circ'd etc. So all the work I've done has gone out the window thanks to her UNINFORMED show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My DH is Muslim as well, so the convincing has been difficult but I had really made some progress!

Please is anyone doing a letter writing campaign? Do we just send the letters to the website. I'm so irate that's she's such a powerful woman and would let some uninformed Dr. inform so many parents.

Thanks!
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Except this:

"Rinse the glans and inside fold of the foreskin with soap and warm water."

Soap is unnecessary and can irritate and problems can occur from that. There is no way I could use soap on my inner folds.
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I've been convincing DH why we should not circ our 8month old. Yesterday he comes to me saying he watched the Oprah and how everyone should be circ'd etc. So all the work I've done has gone out the window thanks to her UNINFORMED show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My DH is Muslim as well, so the convincing has been difficult but I had really made some progress!

Please is anyone doing a letter writing campaign? Do we just send the letters to the website. I'm so irate that's she's such a powerful woman and would let some uninformed Dr. inform so many parents.

Thanks!
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I read the article. I cant even respond *head explodes*
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I've been convincing DH why we should not circ our 8month old. Yesterday he comes to me saying he watched the Oprah and how everyone should be circ'd etc. So all the work I've done has gone out the window thanks to her UNINFORMED show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My DH is Muslim as well, so the convincing has been difficult but I had really made some progress!


Please is anyone doing a letter writing campaign? Do we just send the letters to the website. I'm so irate that's she's such a powerful woman and would let some uninformed Dr. inform so many parents.

Thanks!
You should mention this on the board. Its a stark contrast to what others are saying. It should slap them up a bit. Which is what they need. Following the crowd, a very UNINFORMED one at that!

Don't give up on the hopes for your WHOLE ds. In the end you WILL win! You have the power to protect him. Makes you feel liberated doesn't it?

As for Oprah, personally write her an e-mail. Click "Send in your thoughts".

Does anyone have her SNAIL MAIL address?

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I read the article. I cant even respond *head explodes*
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I sent a message through the website, and I have some anti-circ information I will mail along with a letter when we get a snail mail address. I'm not an Oprah fan at all, but this just pisses me off.

With this link, you can "Ask Dr. Oz anything"

https://www.oprah.com/plugger/templa...ugId=242800001

Editing again...

This site says that this is her snail mail address:
http://www.tubal.org/Oprah.html

Harpo Productions
P. O. Box 909715
Chicago, IL 60607

I also found this one...

Harpo Studios
1058 West Washington Blvd
Chicago, IL 60607-2151

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