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I got this today:

http://www.realage.com/news_features...?v=2&cid=18396

I live in the UK, and we don't get Oprah here, but thought others here might be interested in seeing this (and I'd love a report back on what it said!).
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: That bothered me. So it reduces sensation for both partners, but he'll never know the difference and it reduces STDs. I hope Oprah gets a new doctor!

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I am definatly watching.....I hope everyone does because if it is biased and we got some letters going maybe she would revisit the topic.......with a nocirc rep
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I'll watch,as long as I can keep myself from throwing anything at the TV. Can't really afford a new one at this point, so if it gets too bad, I'll have to turn it off. :

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From Oprah's website re: Today's Show:

http://www2.oprah.com/health/oz/oz_2..._350_103.jhtml

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He says there are some reasons that circumcision makes sense—religious or family traditions, hygiene, and reduced risk of transmitting sexually transmitted diseases and viruses.

There are reasons to not circumcise as well. Some people consider it disfiguring, and doing it will reduce sensation during sex. "In a circumcised male, the bottom part, the underneath part of the penis, is the most sensitive part," Dr. Oz says, using a cucumber wrapped in a sock as a demonstration. "If you've not been circumcised, about half of the erogenous tissue on the penis is actually that foreskin area. Plus the foreskin covers over the glans—that front part, and that's the most sensitive part of the penis—so it doesn't get rubbed on, so it stays a little bit more preserved for when the foreskin eventually does pull back during intercourse."

The American Academy of Pediatrics doesn't take a position on circumcision. "They say it's up to you," Dr. Oz says.

For boys who haven't been circumcised, it is important to learn the proper way to clean themselves. Uncircumcised boys are 10 times more likely to get an infection than those who are circumcised, Dr. Oz says.

To do it correctly, "You pull the skin back and you can actually get under here and clean this corner out. Now these edges are where something called smegma resides and that stuff can get pretty nasty if you don't clean it up. But here's the bigger issue. As a doctor I care about this. Most guys who are uncircumcised have the foreskin leading off. This touches the pants and it gets scarred after a while. It can get pretty taut. Sometimes it goes over the tip of the penis and squeezes down on it and that can actually strangle the tip of the penis. That's called a phimosis. When we see it, that's an emergency. And so for folks that have not been circumcised, that's pretty important to keep in mind."
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Well, she let this topic come up on her show. I guess that's good. I'm trying to be optimistic that this could provide a chance to educate. Do you think NOCIRC or DOC will get involved? Should we send letters to Oprah or ask these organizations to contact her?
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OMG is that guy really a doctor?

He's clearly got absolutely no idea of how a complete penis works. That's absolutely pathetic.

How the he11 do you all get to adulthood over there, with people like that watching over your health?
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Sounds like Dr. Oz is cut.

I would say that DOC should contact him regarding his responses about the intact penis.

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Idiot :

So full of misinformation and propaganda :
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I think what we need to do is to have paul fleiss,regretful mothers, mothers of intact boys-who facing the stupid harassment by doctors and most of them giving the wrong advice like thank goodness this mom was with it otherwise a poor baby would have been circ over banana pudding because the doctor saw yellow -said infection- and gave her 'cp' even mentioned sexual dislikes-we need to show this world how stupid doctors are
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Dr. Oz is a Turkish-American heart surgeon.

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Dr. Oz is a Turkish-American heart surgeon.

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then what is he doing giving advice of foreskin and circumcision ?
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retract
rinse
replace


penis models not required!!

scrubbing not required!!

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I've never cared for Dr. Oz in the first place, and even less for him now...:

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Dr. Oz is a Turkish-American heart surgeon.
Well that surely explains a lot...namely his idiocy regarding the intact penis. Geez. Seriously, I can't even take a regular Oprah episode without wanting to throw things at the TV. The sad thing is that I know many people who take the opinions of "experts" on Oprah's show as gospel...so if this Dr. Oz is going to come on the show and spout all this garbage, I'm thinking a lot of people are going to listen. Really gets my blood pressure rising!!!

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Sounds like Dr "Oz" should go float away in a balloon....and take his bad advice with him!

What, they couldn't actually get someone who knew what they were talking about? Apparently not.

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I just watched it. It made me want to puke. :

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I just watched it. It made me want to puke. :
Anything positive?

Did it seem very pro circ?

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Anything positive?

Did it seem very pro circ?
I just watched it. It was very pro-circ. The only positive they gave for being intact was increased sensation during sex.
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well, what did we expect from a woman who raves about rubbing foreskin on her face. :

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Anything positive?

Did it seem very pro circ?
He said that being circed meant less infection. He was talking about the AIDS study in Africa and how it was proven that circed men got AIDS less: , and that probably meant that it would reduce HPV as well, and that would mean that it would reduce cervical cancer for women.

He talked about what a nasty thing smegma is. Also how little boys have 10 time greater chance of infection if not cut.

He did mention that it reduced sensation during sex, which was the only positive.

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well, what did we expect from a woman who raves about rubbing foreskin on her face. :
True. So true.

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[QUOTE=norajane;9320951] Also how little boys have 10 time greater chance of infection if not cut.
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I was thinking of cutting off my (future) son's big toes so he never has to worry about ingrown toenails. I've heard people without toes have less toe infections.

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Ugh. Nevermind- maybe I won't watch it. Just what I want ot see is an ignorant, biased medical professional spouting off about things he has no knowledge of. :

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Of course intact boys have more infections in the USA when parents and medical "professionals" don't know the proper way to care for an intact penis. I wonder what the infection rate is in countries where circ is NOT the norm.

And why on earth did they get a heart surgeon to talk about circ? Wouldn't a urologist have been more appropriate? Or at least a GP?

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wow that sounds like a epsiode to just avoid all together.

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well, what did we expect from a woman who raves about rubbing foreskin on her face. :
THAT is what I came to comment on:

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He said that being circed meant less infection. He was talking about the AIDS study in Africa and how it was proven that circed men got AIDS less: , and that probably meant that it would reduce HPV as well, and that would mean that it would reduce cervical cancer for women.
I don't even know where to begin deconstructing everything that is wrong with that statement!
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I haven't watched it yet, but I TiVo'd it. The whole thing makes me want to scream too. I just wonder what would happen if an authority on intact penises contacts her show. Has anyone tried? It wouldn't hurt to have several lay-people write too.

I just know hoe powerful her show is and since it came up on her show, I'm thinking she might be willing to talk about it.
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It's on where I live right now. I just can't stop thinking about all of the misinformation that's being construed as fact by millions of women right now. Poor baby boys.

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