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Mandynee22's Avatar Mandynee22 11:23 PM 11-10-2007
I go on spoilerfix and IMDB ALL THE TIME because I love to ruin things for myself LOL
It's still unknown if the baby will be circ'd. I still have hope. None of my "sources" have a difinative answer.
The big teaser was that bree wants a circ and that either Orson or the baby's bio dad disagree (that part wasn't clear)

Mandynee22's Avatar Mandynee22 11:27 PM 11-10-2007
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have ya'll seen this?

http://video.aol.com/video/tv-desper...cision/2018088

i think the hubby's doing a nice job....making his wife's reasons seem very superficial.

i don't even watch this show and I'M interested!

oh yeah - and they are bottlefeeding too....not even promoting the breast.
That isn't shocking to me. Mainstream TV tackling adoptive BFing? Too much to hope for just yet.
essnce629's Avatar essnce629 09:06 AM 11-11-2007
I have hope that they will leave the baby intact. I've been watching DH since it started and I remember an episode of Lynette nursing her baby girl and also, does anyone remember the episode way back in the beginning that revolved around an employee at Lynette's job that was still nursing her preschool aged child? I think he was about 3 years old. Lynette got him to "wean" after offering him ice cream or something, but I'm pretty sure I remember them showing the little boy nursing, not just talking about it.
Mandynee22's Avatar Mandynee22 11:25 AM 11-11-2007
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I have hope that they will leave the baby intact. I've been watching DH since it started and I remember an episode of Lynette nursing her baby girl and also, does anyone remember the episode way back in the beginning that revolved around an employee at Lynette's job that was still nursing her preschool aged child? I think he was about 3 years old. Lynette got him to "wean" after offering him ice cream or something, but I'm pretty sure I remember them showing the little boy nursing, not just talking about it.
I do but he was 5. She was nursing him that long because it was good for her figure LOL
And when Lynette was BFing Penny (at a party) she wasn't even a NB. I thought that was great. I think this show is pretty AP friendly if you really think about it. Just not commitment friendly HAHA
jessjgh1's Avatar jessjgh1 07:46 PM 11-11-2007
What time is it on?? I may get to watch it...
Jessica
pdx.mothernurture's Avatar pdx.mothernurture 07:52 PM 11-11-2007
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What time is it on?? I may get to watch it...
Jessica
http://abc.go.com/primetime/desperate/

Sundays 8/9 Central it looks like.

Jen
Ann-Marita's Avatar Ann-Marita 09:41 PM 11-11-2007
It's on at 8pm central time. So that means it's on at 9pm Eastern, I think. Not sure about Mountain or Pacific time zones.
Mandynee22's Avatar Mandynee22 09:50 PM 11-11-2007
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What time is it on?? I may get to watch it...
Jessica
It'll be on at 9 for you :-) After Extreme Makeover on ABC
Maybe if we do "group positive thinking" I hear about that on Coast to Coast AM all the time. Worth a shot LMAO
smeep's Avatar smeep 12:07 AM 11-12-2007
I'm watching it right now and he just called it mutilation!!!! And even talked about how it's desensitizing!!!!
Mandynee22's Avatar Mandynee22 12:08 AM 11-12-2007
OK just have to say I am loving Orson's comments. "Ritual mutilation" WONDERFUL
smeep's Avatar smeep 12:12 AM 11-12-2007
I love it too! They must've actually looked into the debate thing really well. Bree's (sp?) comments were very typical of those who circ out of ignorance. Though Iw ould've liked to have heard him mention how the hygiene thing is a myth. Oh well, ritual mutilation and loss of sensitivity is pretty great!
carriebft's Avatar carriebft 12:13 AM 11-12-2007
I cant watch! keep the updates coming-- I love that this is happening on noncable TV. its ABC right?

ill be bummed if they do it though
captain crunchy 12:18 AM 11-12-2007
Awesome.. he circulated letters to all the hospitals in the area and in two surrounding states saying he didn't want *their* son circed!

Coolness!
smeep's Avatar smeep 12:18 AM 11-12-2007
He sent letters to all the physicians in the area informing them that he does NOT want the baby to be circ'd. Now she's mad. hehehe
smeep's Avatar smeep 12:19 AM 11-12-2007
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Awesome.. he circulated letters to all the hospitals in the area and in two surrounding states saying he didn't want *their* son circed!

Coolness!
i totalyl missed the 2 surrounding states part! haha how great
mamasophy's Avatar mamasophy 12:39 AM 11-12-2007
Even if they do circ, it's good that circ was addressed the way that it was (at least in the sneek peek). Circing the baby after that (at least what I saw in the preview) would just cement Bree's shallow characterization - edging it into cruel and stupid. Don't know how it will end but I'm sure interested.
carriebft's Avatar carriebft 12:40 AM 11-12-2007
Ok Dh finished watching his show now. so i turned this on. Oh man, she seems to have convinced a mohel to do it! then it went to commercial break >.<
Mandynee22's Avatar Mandynee22 12:41 AM 11-12-2007
I'm losing hope. Orson better walk in. BUT in more spoilers it says that due to the baby, they'll have marital problems :-(
smeep's Avatar smeep 12:41 AM 11-12-2007
uh oh! it looks like she may've convinced the mohel to do a bris.

But who else wants to bet Orson will wake up with them gone, see the invitation for the bris, and head on over? I guess it's just a matter of whether or not he'll get there in time.... here's hoping he will!
carriebft's Avatar carriebft 12:44 AM 11-12-2007
they did it
smeep's Avatar smeep 12:44 AM 11-12-2007
fictional baby is mutilated.

at least Orson has serious issues with it
Mandynee22's Avatar Mandynee22 12:44 AM 11-12-2007
:::
smeep's Avatar smeep 12:46 AM 11-12-2007
I don't know why the whole "screaming monster of a baby" thing didn't come into play AFTER the circ...as that would be far more fitting.
Ann-Marita's Avatar Ann-Marita 12:47 AM 11-12-2007
NOOOOOOO!!!!!

Damn.
smeep's Avatar smeep 12:52 AM 11-12-2007
I do have to say, though, I'd rather a circ'd baby at the end of that well of an anti-circ fight, compared to an intact baby where the parent opposing was simply "I want the baby to look like me" or something where there was just a general lack of solid info against circumcision.
Bm31's Avatar Bm31 12:56 AM 11-12-2007
The UA violation did it. And Orson totally wimps out about it. I can't say what I'd have done to her.

Though...she is a good example of just how stupid and superficial pro-circ'ers are.
silverspook's Avatar silverspook 01:28 AM 11-12-2007
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they did it
I want to clarify (for those who couldn't watch) that SHE did it. Orson didn't wake up. They didn't show any of the procedure (of course). She told him when they got home though, and he was MAD! Atleast they made circ out to be horrible and Bree out to be a shallow you-know-what! And I'm too sucked in to the Gaby/Victor/Carlos saga to stop watching now!
jserral's Avatar jserral 01:31 AM 11-12-2007
Eh.... Orson was so passionate about it I was disappointed after he heard the kid was circed, and a quick argument, the issue seemed to be dropped. If they dont have marital issues (as another said), or if it isn't at least brought up more then this I will definately be disappointed, and not just because I am against circ, someone that feels as strongly as he seemed to wouldn't just let this drop.

That said, I do like how Bree never comes up with a good defense and Orson's comeback was pretty good.... and how Susan (who has only had a girl) said she has never given it any thought, ever.... which is probably how most viewers (even those with boys) feel and this could cause them to research it after knowing some people have strong feelings against it.... and other people would realize they had no better reasons then Bree, again hopefully causing them to research it.

All in all a decent outcome, though I hope future episodes bring it up further.
silverspook's Avatar silverspook 01:35 AM 11-12-2007
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Though...she is a good example of just how stupid and superficial pro-circ'ers are.
Yup!
nini02's Avatar nini02 01:39 AM 11-12-2007
I missed it...guess I'm glad I didn't see it. *sigh*
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