It would be very helpful if posters would identify the geographical region they are referring to. RIC rates in the US are in fact to a great degree regional, and this would help establish a pattern. THe other thing that is distresing is that so many people are saying they know almost no or very few uncirced small boys. I have long suspected that the hospital release rates for circumcision are quite different from the real circucmision rate int he US, and the number of persons who are saying they know no or few uncirced boys would seem to confirm that the real circ rate is actually much higher than the hospital release rates would suggest--even though the circ rate is clearly much lower now than it was 20 years ago.
When people report that most of their freinds didn't circ, the sampling is very far from random. We are talking about small circles of crunchy mommies many of whom will have homebirthed. Even though I mentioned that most of my IRL friends are not in child bearing years and many jusst don't want to be mommies anyway, I would not be at all surprise that those who are older and did have childeren in the '70s or '80s choose to ignore Drs advice and do things like BF and not circ. When I was at an art opening recently and DS needed to nurse one of the older ladies who had helped currate the show mentioned that she nursed and CLW back in the '50s.
Basically or little sampling has very very little to do with the real incidence of this practice.
In my immediate family the two other boys are cut...but that's more a function of the fact my brother (their father) was cut without permission in the hospital when he was born. My family lineage is ALL intact though. Interestingly enough my mother told me that my SIL didn't really care to have them cut, but brother insisted. My mother SHOULD have told them what happened to my brother. She doesn't want him to feel weird about it, or about my dad :.
Perpetually breastfeeding or pregnant ENFP mom to a lot of kids...wife to a midwestern nice guy...living in tropical paradise...pink cats and homebirths rock!
I have a friend that is preggo and she just told me today that "If I have a boy, he'll be circumcised. That's just my personal preference". : I really hope she has another girl....
It would be very helpful if posters would identify the geographical region they are referring to. RIC rates in the US are in fact to a great degree regional, and this would help establish a pattern. THe other thing that is distresing is that so many people are saying they know almost no or very few uncirced small boys.
Out here in California, some of my medical contacts who cater to middle class insured whites (to be specific, in Silicon Valley, Newport Beach, CA and 'white' areas of San Diego) say that the rate of circ is at least 80% in their young male patients. This is anecdotal, but the reports were independent of each other, and the figure was consistent from place to place.
The Medicaid coverage will also affect overall stats. For example, I believe North Carolina has a rate of 56%, while neighboring South Carolina reports 85%. SC medicaid covers it, NC's doesn't, but I would imagine there is very little difference between the incidence of circumcision in middle class white Charlotte, NC and Chraleston, SC. Just a thought anyhow.
I was VERY relieved to find out that my husband was intact. It meant at least two things:
1 - he had full use of his penis
2 - it meant that I didn't have to try to persuade him to leave our sons intact. No battling the silly argument of making the boys look like him.
I talked a friend of mine whos due with a Boy in March out of it, so he will be intact and i also talked to my sister's and they won't circ. either :-) (when they have kids that is)
Actually....i just went to TN with 8 other women and their kids....5 were boys and 3 of them were INTACT and only 2 were circ'ed LOL. they were the minority!! It felt so good.
I have 7 intact nephews; 2 intact sons; 4 intact brothers; 1 intact BIL; the vast majority of boys 8 and under I know are intact; several friends who if they ever have boys will leave them intact, etc.
One time I was in the Target parking lot and a little boy about 4 dropped his drawers and took a pee on a tiny tree. I happened to look up and he was intact! :
It gives good suggestions on how to talk about the issue with a husband who has a hard time listening to arguments about why to leave a baby intact. GOOD LUCK to your sister! It's worth a fight.
Mama to Nell (11/15/06) and Maggie (10/9/10) . AFTER 2.5 YEARS, I AM AN AUNTIE!!! HOORAY TEAR78 and welcome Anika and Brand New Baby Boy!!!! Circumcision: the more you know, the worse it is; please leave the decision up to your son!