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#61 of 111 Old 10-18-2005, 07:47 PM
 
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two intact in a northshore suburb of chicago. unfortunately, in a distinct minority in our immediate area. not long ago we lived closer to northwestern university and it was far more common for kids to be intact - combination of students and professors from all over the world and a decidedly more liberal outlook than in our current neighborhood, just 15 minutes away.
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My intact boy is in his first year of college....what a trip that was, taking a boy out of the hospital intact back then! (Im in western NC)
All of my nephews are cut....makes me so very sad.
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I've got my 2 in NC. My nephew unfortunately is cut Most of the people I hang around with leave their boys intact.
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Including my husband, there are 4 in my house, here in Chicago (very midwest). :LOL
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One in OK, nursing on my lap!

I have 3 friends with 3 sons each (6 boys in OK and 3 in TX) -- all circ'd. My cousin's 4 also.

My sister is an ob in AZ and she told me it was cosmetic surgery with no real reason to do it -- and then circ'd her baby! I nearly cried for the poor thing! She said that there, it's becoming an income thing since Medicaid and the low income health program won't pay for it....

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Mandy, you live in *dayton*

I'm 15 minutes away in crunchy Yellow Springs - we've got whole penises here!
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Here in Madison, it's fairly common to see intact boys. My guess is it's at least 50/50 around here, but I really don't have any data to back that up. It's a liberal area around here. My three sons are all intact, so we can add them to the count!

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we have an intact little man here in central VA. most of my friends have left their boys intact as well, although we did have one friend circ their little boy who was born in sept. what an odd sight it was to see his penis, after being so used to my son's! my nephew (who is 10) was circ'd, but the town i grew up in (where they live) is pretty mainstream...

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There are 2 intact boys and 1 intact daddy at my house
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I have to say I don't know anyone else who decided to leave their sons intact, either...although DH is intact & I'm assuming the rest of his side of family is. Come to find out after having DS#1, that my own father is intact. Too much information for me but Grandpa seems very proud of that!

I have had people ask me how long the circ took to heal after I had DS#1 - and actually look at me like I had 10 heads when I said we chose not to do that. : I didn't realize we were so strange! LOL!

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"All" of my baby boy is sleeping in Sarasota, FL! I finally met another intact baby boy last friday. He was the first. Daddy is all there but that's not what influenced my decision. I just think it's the right thing to do.

My girlfriend is jewish and she had two boys. She invited me to the "brist" of her second. A brist is a "celebration" when the baby is, I think, a week old in which they circ him in the home and it is done by a special jewish, I can't remember what he is called, person. I said I had to work. There was no way I could be present and listen to that when I was due any day with my DS. On top of it all they took him to a specialist last week because he has scar tissue and has gotten a UTI.
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2 here in so. cal. extened family 1 cousin intact one circ. as for close friends it is about 30%intact / 70% circ. . honestly shocked that people still do it. my friend who has 2 girls and is jewish once said she would hate to circ her boy but would do it to make her dad happy.What????!!! i was preg at the time and not totaly firm in my intact choice. crazy logic cutting your boy to make dad happy ??? i think there are so many other things that will please a grandpa.
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I only know of 2 circed boys in my little mountain town, and they are 10 and 9 (same dad). All the other boys I know of aren't cut including mine and dh. It is not covered by our medical here and doctors don't even ask you if you want it done....you have to ask them. I know my doctor personally won't do it. Guess we are all a little crunchy up here in Smithers, BC Canada

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One more intact boy in ND! Thanks to a family I nannied for (didn't circ their boys 13 and 7 years ago -- very progressive for ND I think), and my sister in FL who had her baby boy first and didn't circ. All of my co-workers and my in-laws cut their boys .

I wish I would have done more to talk them out of it. Their arguments for it were pretty vague. One actually said that she heard circ'ing lessened pleasure, which would be a good thing if her son was anything like his father?!! What the...

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I have 3 whole boys - 12 years old, 11 years old and our pleasant surprise 7 month old!

Through the years of being a mom, I've found that almost all the sons of moms I've met through LLL and more "natural family" type circles have kept their sons intact.

However, in more "unnatural family" circles (for lack of a better definition - you know, the parents that just do what they're told and not what their hearts tell them) like at church, neighbors and the general public have had their boys cut and the sad thing is they don't have a reason for it! No thought even given to what has been done to their little boys!

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I have no idea where they all are! I was an assistant at TWO different daycares here in Western New York state. I also babysat several different little boys. My son has the only uncirc'd penis I've ever seen IRL! EVER!

I've only heard of 3 men in my area being circ'd. Yeah, it's big news around here when somebody finds out a man isn't cut!
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Well... there is AT LEAST one intact boy here in Tennessee!
mine is.... <G> only one i know, though....
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i see a good number of intact boys -- including my own -- but i live in san francisco. i'm sure there's a higher percentage than many other cities/towns.
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Let's see... there's one intact little guy upstairs asleep (my son); one down the street at work (my husband); one down the block (friend's son); one down the road (friend's son); a whole gaggle of them in a friend's playgroup and several in my La Leche League group ... Come to think of it, I don't think I actually personally know a single little fellow who was chopped except for one of my cousin's children (from Utah). Hip Hip Hoorah for Carrboro/Chapel Hill, North Carolina !!!
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Posting from Ireland:
I was absolutely SHOCKED and HORRIFIED to discover that this preactice was carried out so freely and without (from what I can see) reason, in the U.S.
Here in Ireland Doctors do not carry out medical procedures (because that is what it is) on babies or children without medical reason.
When I assisted at communty daycare (as a volunteer whren I was younger) I only ever saw one circ'ed baby.
This was carried out due to phimosis.
As far as I know, phimosis and ballinitis (relatively rare) are the only two conditions for which doctors here will circ a boy.
My friends hubbie had a partial circ as an adult due to an overtight foreskin which suffered repeated (painful) spilits and scarring.
But apart from those two, all the males I know here, are intact.

My cousin tho' is married to a U.S. man of the jewish faith and he is circ'ed.
His Mom's argument for it (I could not get my head around this!!!) was
- Why should boys not have to go thru circumcision; their mothers have to go thru childbirth -
I was too stunned to reply!!
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If you will keep reading here, balanitis is not any reason to circ. "Balanitis" is simply a word for infection and boys get the same infections that girls do. We don't cut off parts of girls to treat these infections, we give them medications. Boys and girls respond equally to medication for these infections.

Phimosis is the most misdiagnosed problem and when the diagnosis is correct, circumcision is like cutting off a finger to cure a hangnail. There are a range of less invasive cures available.

The story of your cousins mother in law is repugnant at best.



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My 2 year old is intact here in VA! He was born at the Naval Medical Center in Portsmouth, VA, and boy, did they ever push circ! I had to tell them over and over that I did NOT want him circ'd! In fact, the day we were leaving, the pediatrician doing his discharge said, "now you know we didn't circ him-- we still can if you want," to which I replied, "absolutely NOT! I want him just the way he is!" She looked at me strangely, but they already though I was crazy in that hospital because I had BF my 4.5 year old daughter when she came to visit her new baby brother-- but that's a whole other story....
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There's one here in SE Michigan climbing all over his big sister. I can think of 4 other boys that are intact as well. I will say, sadly, that the majority of baby boys I know are circ'd...all other baby boys in our family for example. Our son is the first, and hopefully not the last, boy in our family to have kept his foreskin!
Last year, we sold our car to a family and when they came over to buy it, their 3 or 4 year old boy, for whatever reason, pulled his pants down in our front yard:LOL His mother was mortified, but I was so happy to see a foreskin on him. Lucky little boy!
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I am absolutly stunned that circ is now being considered a status symbol by default through Medicaid's enlightenment that it is not a necessary procedure.

I am proud to have an intact soon to be 4 year old son here is eastern PA in a very uppity area. But then again he was born is a fairly crunchy community in Albuquerque, NM with the most wonderful educational homebirth midwife EVER! And Medicaid paid for the whole thing homebirth and all.

Sadly I actually still have to educate others about my sons intact penis and how it is in no way dirty or prone to infections. I know now that I have to tell anyone caring for him to NEVER retract his foreskin thanks to some of the stories here. Thankfully we haven't had to deal with Dr's much since we're also not vacc.
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Haven't talked about it to my LLL group, but the other moms group I was part of for some time made me sad. Of seven moms and thirteen kids (just about half and half girls to boys), my son was the only intact boy. In my family and my husband's, my son is the only intact boy. Of my neighbors, he is one of two intact boys. The practice where my kids see a pediatrician has grown, and for the most part, the doctors are pro-intact penis. However, there is one doctor who saw us when our son was an infant and our regular doc was on maternity leave who asked us when we were going to schedule his circ. I said never, unless he decided as an adult to convert to Judaism. Give me a break. I even have a sister in law who decided she was tired of being pregnant so got induced, the pitocen caused fetal distress, baby inhaled miconium. Had emergency C-section, and baby was sent to another hospital, where they do not routinely get circd. So, she waited until the baby was about three and a half months old and had the pediatrician do it. I felt so...frustrated at her parenting decisions! I don't get any comments for leaving him intact, but in our midwestern town, we certainly go plenty of stares when he was being changed in public. Every time I have a girlfriend who's pregnant, I share all the printed info I have about circ. I would like to at least give them a chance to make an educated decision. Change the world one child at a time...

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UPDATE

Good news! When I dropped DS off at daycare today, a new little boy about 6 weeks old was getting his diaper changed and - drumroll please! - he was intact! His is only the 2nd intact penis I've ever seen IRL (first being my son's). Lucky boy!

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Here in Vermont the doctors tell me the rate is about 50/50. Most of the people I know didn't circ though so I imagine it varies from area to area. When Sam was born the OB asked if we were going to circ him and did a little happy dance when we said we weren't. Her opinion was quite clear from that.

My bother and his wife had a baby 12 hours before my little guy was born and they had him circ'd but they live in the midwest. I thought it was nuts but then again, my SIL also didn't breast feed because she wanted my brother to take over all the night feedings....

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I found out today from two of the moms in our homeschool group that their sons (one mom has 1 boy and the other has 2) are intact! So that brings the total to 14 intact boys that I know!

OUR DAUGHTERS ARE PROTECTED SHOULDN'T OUR SONS BE TOO! :
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2 un-cut boys outside painting my house red! They are un-cut from top to bottom! One sunny Sunday afternoon while gatherd around the family dinner table (entire family) my son, then 3 yrs old says to his uncle.."Do you have a round pee-pee or a hair pee-pee? I have forpskin like Papa. Mouths droped, anywho.. he was the first boy grandchild, there are a total of 3 now, all intact!
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i know quite a few in eastern pa and in nyc.
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