Is there any place left on the net with the circumcision episode from Penn and Teller? I wanna see it but we cant find it, wahhh! They had it on you tube earlier today but it got taken off again before I had a chance to watch it
Originally Posted by e123vg
WOW, and that is why i'm against circ. i better make my dp watch that, just incase he is thinking about trying to fight me on that issue. thanks for posting
I just clicked on your homepage for your daughter- Guess who was in here with me when I did? My daughter- Nataleigh!
: I thought *I* made up that spelling!
:
"Just why do you think you... um... you thought you made it up?"
(That's what Nataleigh just said to me. She's almost 7!) The story behind her name is that I wanted to name her Alexandra Leigh and my ex then said he wanted to name her Natalie and so I compromised and said Nataleigh Alexandra Thomson Gardner. (Two middle names- but not 3!)
Hmmm...I'm not sure, I can ask my dh about it. I think he saved the episode to his computer or to a DVD or something, but I could be wrong. He isnt here to ask though...
I had DP send this to a friend of his that sent us a birth announcement the other day- we hadn't even known his wife was having a baby. We were shocked to hear she'd just had a boy, and I asked DP to send him that link. That sucks that they didn't get to watch it.
Originally Posted by MonicaS
I would love to post it on my myspace page, but do you think they would consider it "porn" or inappropriate? I wouldn't want my account deleted.
Originally Posted by NGOTB50
How graphic is it? I kinda wanna see it...
I guess it sort of depends on your emotional state.
There is some footage of circs being done, but the camera doesn't zoom in for any close-ups. (I think: I was cringing and hiding my eyes for those parts, so I may have missed something...)
They make some good points, though as far as getting concrete information out there, they really just got the tip of the iceburg.
They point out the basics of how stupid circing is at this point. Their closing statement was good enough that I wrote it down so I could quote it. It is, unfortunately, riddled with words that don't comply with the UA here...
MonicaS, perhaps myspace will allow it if you inform the admins up front that there is some nudity but nothing vile in the video. It's like a biology class to be honest. (oh, and with a few swear words of course!
Originally Posted by ramlita
Years ago, I mentioned to my then-boyfriend that I would never circ a child. While he had heard the word before, he had to ask me whether he was circed.
Gosh... imagine NOT KNOWING whether you were circumcised or not
Amazing what parents don't tell their children. Actually, I would bet good money that my brothers don't know that they are
They'll find out once I have a son, by golly
And they'll find out regardless if I have a son before THEY have any sons!!!
Oh yes. That is like the lady who knocked on my window, asking where I got my bumper sticker (foreskins are not a birth defect) and then proceeded to ask how I could drive around with that, having little kids ask their parents about THAT! I told her that they deserved to know...and after recovering from the shock (no one has ever said anything negative about my sticker, let alone knock on my window) added that if she was that ashamed, maybe she shouldnt have done it.
I know of a lot of guys who dont learn what circumcision even is until they are going through puberty-or even into adulthood. I KNOW this is part of the reason that a lot of guys have such a hard time grasping the concept that something is wrong with it. I mean, if you dont even learn about it until you are 22, you probably think...hmmm, my parents never told me about it and they love me so it must have been for the best. That or their parents tell them from the time they are little that foreskins are gross, that it didnt hurt, that it was for the best. I know my dh was very easy to turn into an intactivist (and he was against RIC well before I met him) because his own two bros are intact and he had grown up knowing that it wasnt normal and that it did hurt-and that his parents were so sorry. I guess that can make those who have circ'd sons have hope for their grandkids!!
Thanks so much for posting this. I've been looking for a "live" feed for a while - I was so glad to watch it and then show it to my husband. I mean, it's horrible, but it's snarky and irreverent enough to send to people without seemingly browbeating.
All my husband said, "BOY am I glad we didn't circumcise him!"
I finally watched it, too. I had been avoiding watching any circumcision videos, since the thought of it already makes my skin crawl, but this was a good show! I did feel awful for those screaming babies, and I was actually glad they didn't show really long clips of that. Yuck.
Hey everybody!
Don't miss this other video!!! It's only four minutes long, and much less lewd, so it may be more useful for some applications.
It does still involve a little bit of swearing, and a couple of
flashes of a photo of a male horse in ...glorious, shall we say?... profile.
It's simple and funny and to the point. Go watch it.
When I saw it, I was prepared to have to mute, but the circ they showed had a "canned" baby cry - not the real cry. It was a cry I've heard many times on TV and was NOT a circ cry. So I thought they were kind of deceiving there... I liked when they taked to the Rabbi, who said it's NOT necessary!
People can write to John Geisheker, Esq., legal counsel for Doctors Opposing Circumcision, at <kiwijohn2@cs.com > for a free DVD of the show. Or, for a video tape, they can write to William Stowell <StopCircVA@aol.com > and ask. The videotapes are $5 each, to cover the tape and postage.
i got that from marilyn milos awhile back and got a copy. then i just wrote him again this week for another copy and he sent it already.
also, have you guys seen the dutch documentary? its AWESOME! marilyn milos of nocirc.org is in it too and i think it was really well done! the link to it is on that webpage below the penn & teller one.
WOW! That's terrific!
And since it's an attorney doing the distributing, I hope that means that the copies were made/aquired legally.
I hate to ask, but could you explain how to put the show up on your site?
I used to have it on my MySpace page, but it got moved around and now it doesn't seem to have the idiot-proof button to click to get the code to use it.
I hope to watch the Dutch doc soon- I assume it's not exactly G-rated?
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