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If you are curious as to how the foreskin functions but do not have access to your own or your partner's, then you may find it helpful to view the moving photo gifs and video clips of real penises demonstrating their foreskin movement from several different views. Feel free to save and share them if it will be helpful in encouraging people not to be afraid of men with complete genitalia.

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If you are or know an intact man who would like to make a moving photo gif or video clip of themselves for the sake of educating others, then please send me a message. I would love to add more to show the variety.

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ok, i thought it was 'animated' as in cartoon-y! not actual live penises! still good info though. better actually. i've seen cartoon penises retract and glide, but not real ones. what a funny thing to talk about!!

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Ok.......WOW. Can I admit here that I have never seen an intact adult penis before? Seriously. I've got a circed husband and 2 circed boys and that's just......damn, that's cool. Now I know how much they've lost too (HOLY CRAP). Wow. Thanks for posting that.
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WOW that is incredible!! I've only been intimate with my fiance, who is circ'd...I never really grasped how much skin is removed until now~ I guess I didn't really understand the whole concept of retraction

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Thanks so much for sharing. This is definitely something that will be used to help educate others in the function of the foreskin.

It was nice to see actual penises and how they are all different.

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That's brilliant - no one can deny any "gliding action" now, or indeed the colossal amount of skin that is removed, or the beautiful shiny colour and texture of an intact man's glans. Glans are meant to be snuggled, covered and protected from the harsh outside world, women and men are meant to have the benefit of that gliding action to protect them from excess friction. Foreskins are there for several very good reasons.
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These should be added up in the stickies/resources.

I'm assuming there's no problem with listing them, as long as there is an explanation (or warning) as to the nature of the photos, etc.?

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DaisyUK: That's brilliant - no one can deny any "gliding action" now, or indeed the colossal amount of skin that is removed, or the beautiful shiny colour and texture of an intact man's glans. Glans are meant to be snuggled, covered and protected from the harsh outside world, women and men are meant to have the benefit of that gliding action to protect them from excess friction. Foreskins are there for several very good reasons.

Well put Daisy!

To OP: i hope some American woman now understand what they are robbing their son's of. This makes a circ'd penis look very disabled indeed!
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I'm sort of torn between thinking that it is understandable not to know until you see and wondering exactly how people thought that it worked if not back-and-forth.
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So much for the "just-a-piece-of-skin" justification. This clearly shows some of the functions and several veins. How could anyone looks at this and think it's just skin?
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Wow, never saw one of those before (I mean uncut!). Geez, they sure do cut a LOT OFF! OMG! I also think that the articles about using foreskin cells in facial cream was uh...enlightening to say the least. No wonder doctors encourage some people to circ their babies..then they sell the skin to these companies. Yeech! And I thought using whale vomit in lipstick had been a nasty practice..

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hey look...my first time looking at porn online.

At least it was for a good cause though. So, I have a ? now....does the foreskin only retract enough to uncover the glans, or the shaft too? I thought in the condom discussion, one suggestion was to pull it back and get the condom under the foreskin but on the shaft...and I'm thinking I may have misunderstood.
It uncovers a little of the shaft that's underneath the head.

I don't need to look at these pictures, I already know how all that stuff works.
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So that's what it looks like! It just LOOKS like that's the way things are supposed to be. Too bad for us American women!

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Tinker: Too bad for us American women!
Even worse for Ameican men! Humor me here moms. Imagine being a man. Would you want to have a "fully loaded" penis or one that is half the fun??? I imagine a circ'd penis is a lot less interesting to use than an intact one.

So sad that SOOOOOOOOOO many Americans are so deluded about this.
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Even worse for Ameican men! Humor me here moms. Imagine being a man. Would you want to have a "fully loaded" penis or one that is half the fun??? I imagine a circ'd penis is a lot less interesting to use than an intact one.

So sad that SOOOOOOOOOO many American's are so deluded about this.
"fully loaded" kinda sounds like a spiffy new car with all the bells and whistles. hehehe.

The only thing I could imagine that would even come close, is if WE had to endure FGM and had no clitoris. Being as how I DO have one the thought of not having one is kind of like "What's the point?" So yeah I get it. I do feel bad for the men.

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This is definitely a great resource, thanks for posting it!
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wow i guess it really is 10 square inches that gets removed! i really think DS' wife will thank me one day! well if he decides to keep it b/c you know it's so horrible to be intact! : thanks for posting this link!
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It uncovers a little of the shaft that's underneath the head.
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incorrigible, if you want to know more about the structure of a foreskin, try www.cirp.org , and click on "Anatomy of the foreskin, Mechanics of intercourse". There are many interesting articles listed and accessible in the "references" section at the bottom.
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. . . . So, I have a ? now....does the foreskin only retract enough to uncover the glans, or the shaft too? I thought in the condom discussion, one suggestion was to pull it back and get the condom under the foreskin but on the shaft...and I'm thinking I may have misunderstood.
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It uncovers a little of the shaft that's underneath the head.

I thought it pulled further back, too. The photos were enlightening for me. So it's all one piece, covering the shaft as well as the glans, but it only retracts a little beyond the glans? Or is it that it will/can retract all the way, but functionally (during intercourse), it only moves to uncover the glans?

So when a man is circ'd (as a baby), what is left? There's skin further up on the shaft, and that is a remnant of the foreskin? There's no lip to get under, though, so it doesn't seem like a foreskin layer to me, just kind of looser skin that he can pull forward.
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I thought it pulled further back, too. The photos were enlightening for me. So it's all one piece, covering the shaft as well as the glans, but it only retracts a little beyond the glans?
The foreskin itself is indeed all in one piece but along the underside there is another part named the frenulum which serves as a connective band between glans and prepuce and is also exceptionally erogenous. That is often destroyed during a circumcision although remnants do remain in many cases.

Furthermore some people's do not cover the entire glans while some extend quite some way beyond it. That varies but the latter seem more common.

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Or is it that it will/can retract all the way, but functionally (during intercourse), it only moves to uncover the glans?
Uh...Kinda tricky to explain really, let me have a go:

Generally while the penis is flaccid you can pull back the foreskin to expose its entirity (all of the mucosal tissue and blood vessels etc) and it extends quite some way down the shaft since the rest of the skin is pushed down.

Generally this is not entirely possible while erect but that really varies a lot too dependent upon how long your foreskin is, how tight it is and how large your glans it. Normally it can't be stretched all the way back while erect and sort of curves behind the glans. Personally I can probably reveal all of it while hard but it's not immensely comfortable and is invariably grooved around.

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So when a man is circ'd (as a baby), what is left? There's skin further up on the shaft, and that is a remnant of the foreskin? There's no lip to get under, though, so it doesn't seem like a foreskin layer to me, just kind of looser skin that he can pull forward.
That really varies depending upon the circumcision. Normally quite a lot is taken but sometimes a lot of what is called the mucosal tissue is left.

It is important to bear in mind that foreskin is definetely not "Just a piece of skin"; although the outside is pretty much indistinguishable from the rest of the penile skin in anything other than its enhanced mobility the inner lining tissue similar to that found in your eyelid, mouth or nose and it serves a similar function, really. That is normally the most erogenous area of a man's body thus the more left the luckier the man is.

With the luckiest of all being the one who was left alone all together...
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I thought it pulled further back, too. The photos were enlightening for me. So it's all one piece, covering the shaft as well as the glans, but it only retracts a little beyond the glans? Or is it that it will/can retract all the way, but functionally (during intercourse), it only moves to uncover the glans?
I'm confused by what you mean by "retract all the way."

The foreskin retracts, exposing the glans and sits behind the glans when retracted. If you want you manually retract a little further and see some shaft.

But if you're asking if the foreskin retracts all the way back to the pubic bone, no, it doesn't.
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I probably sound like a dunce! My experience is only with my partner, who is circumcised. But I guess I thought of the foreskin as covering the whole penis. Three of my nephews are intact, as well as half of the boys in my daughter's preschool class (I know from going along on their swim days), and they look like the classic "elephant trunk" or "anteater" with the continuous skin covering the whole penis and ending with a little shrivelly tip. It looks so perfect and normal to me, now. Anyway, being continuous skin, I guess I assumed that when they became retractable, that all would pull back exposing the complete penis from under the foreskin.

Looking at the photos, I see it's different.

Of course I knew the foreskin covered the glans, but I thought it extended back (as it does) and that you could retract it all the way back, revealing a pink and shiny penis--glans and shaft all covered & protected by a foreskin. I was imagining a good handful of skin that you'd somehow be holding back (like for cleaning, if not erect.)

And the whole idea of "just cutting off the tip or the end of the foreskin" sort of implies that there is more to the foreskin that is left alone, but in effect, it's basically removed if you circumcise at all because the functional part is gone. I know there are "loose circs," but from watching the process in those photos, it seems the whole point is the part that completely covers the glans, not anything else. If that's removed, the foreskin is essentially removed, even if there's technically more of it remaining further up the shaft.

Anyway, that's all. I just thought there was more skin pulling back further. And I haven't really thought about the particulars all that much, beyond simply wishing my husband were intact....
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You don't seem like a dunce, it really isn't your fault at all. The reason they do not peel back up the entire penis is because that would probably be problematic and more complex and their real protective function is mainly for the glans.

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And the whole idea of "just cutting off the tip or the end of the foreskin" sort of implies that there is more to the foreskin that is left alone, but in effect, it's basically removed if you circumcise at all because the functional part is gone.
You are not the only one to have thought that! When I first had circumcision explained to me (very poorly indeed both on an anatomical and theological level, by an R.S. teacher) I had presumed they just meant the protuberance and when I first saw a Jewish friend naked I literally did not believe my eyes!!
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Wow, thanks for posting this. It never occurred to DP and I to circumcise DS, because in our reasoning, we wouldn't circ a girl, so why would we circ a boy? But, as we are not intimately acquainted with penises in general , this was really neat to see.

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I'm glad the page has been helpful:-)

Additionally, viewing the photos on the following two links also helps deepen and clarify ones understanding.

The three zones of penile skin shows just how extensive the foreskin is:
http://www.foreskin.org/3zones-c.htm

Contrast and compare pictures of cut and uncut penises:
http://www.circumstitions.com/Restric/comparison.html
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Thanks for the link. I have intact sons, but they are not retractable, so I also wondered "how far it goes back."

I can also now see how some female partners might not know a man is intact if they only see him erect, since the penis doesn't look that different unless you pay close attention to the little gathered foreskin behind the glans. That's not to say it doesn't function differently, of course. Not that I would know

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Do you know how many times I saw the title to this thread and thought it said "gifts" as in presents? I kept wondering why someone would give a present of a moving photo of foreskin retraction. Was it some weird baby shower gift to try to convince someone of the beauty of the natural intact penis? I was baffled. Finally, my curiosity overcame me, and then it turns out they are "gifs" not "gifts".
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