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#31 of 48 Old 12-30-2007, 01:14 PM
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You can always use the last resort card that I played with my brother...I told him that I would be sure to let his son know as soon as he was old enough that mommy and daddy knew how wrong it was to cut off part of his penis but they thought it would be cuter if they did. I also promised to be there to help him sue them as soon as he could.
VERY good advice, IMO.

Your sister mentioned that he wouldn't know what he's missing, so tell her that you will MAKE SURE that he DOES know EXACTLY what he is missing...
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I know this is off topic, but I was just wondering, what did your brother say, when you said all that to him? Did he still have the circ done?

Yeah...he still did it with both of his boys..I no longer spea to him...but I will be in touch with the boys.

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Is his "micropenis" being caused by a fat pad? If so, then it's actually likely to get seemingly worse rather than better because the baby will chunk up (is she breastfeeding?). Then when he starts getting mobile (serious crawling or walking) he'll likely start to slim down. That's probably when he'll seem to "grow".

A friend of mine here has a boy that used to have the smallest penis I'd ever seen...really it was just a nub! (she's anti-circ anyway, but we joked that it's a good thing she is because if she had circ'd there wouldn't have been anything left!) He just turned a year and he's starting to "come out" more now.

One good thing about not circing now is that she'll come to realize that there's nothing "wrong" with an intact penis. That it's easy to clean. That it still works fine. And she'll get used to seeing it this way. AND, (and I mean no offense by this at all...I only mention it because you said that she and BF haven't been together long) maybe the relationship will end and without BF's insistence she'll change her mind???

Regardless, I'm SO happy that he will remain intact, at least for now!

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Is his "micropenis" being caused by a fat pad? If so, then it's actually likely to get seemingly worse rather than better because the baby will chunk up (is she breastfeeding?). Then when he starts getting mobile (serious crawling or walking) he'll likely start to slim down. That's probably when he'll seem to "grow".

A friend of mine here has a boy that used to have the smallest penis I'd ever seen...really it was just a nub! (she's anti-circ anyway, but we joked that it's a good thing she is because if she had circ'd there wouldn't have been anything left!) He just turned a year and he's starting to "come out" more now.

One good thing about not circing now is that she'll come to realize that there's nothing "wrong" with an intact penis. That it's easy to clean. That it still works fine. And she'll get used to seeing it this way. AND, (and I mean no offense by this at all...I only mention it because you said that she and BF haven't been together long) maybe the relationship will end and without BF's insistence she'll change her mind???

Regardless, I'm SO happy that he will remain intact, at least for now!
Yes, she's trying to breastfeed. And I don't know any nicer way to put it- her boyfriend really does seem like a nice guy, circ issues aside, but my sister has a habit of... not staying with one guy very long. My niece is 7. This is her fourth "Daddy"- biological Father and then three boyfriends, so there's the underlying, "so when does the next guy show up" thoughts on everyone's minds.

I pray for the day Family Court recognizes that CHILDREN have rights, parents only have PRIVILEGES.  Only then, will I know my child is safe.
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Okay, I had to giggle--what an answer to prayer, your little nephew unable to be circed 'cause he's too small! That's adorable.

I'm thrilled that you've been bought some more time. I really, really hope things change between now and whenever she's planning to get it done. The possibility of a few more months, for her to get used to the way he looks, and for you to bring the issue up again (if you think it's wise)... that's fantastic.

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that is so wonderful YEAH FOR SMALL PENI!!!! I hope that she can bond with him as a whole and the fact that her ped is anti circ, lets hope he has a fighting chance.

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You can always use the last resort card that I played with my brother...I told him that I would be sure to let his son know as soon as he was old enough that mommy and daddy knew how wrong it was to cut off part of his penis but they thought it would be cuter if they did. I also promised to be there to help him sue them as soon as he could.
Oh my goodness...what a great card to play with your brother.
I wish I could have with mine. His son was premature and we thought he would not do it. Oh, but he and his wife did without telling me or my mom (she is now pro-intact).

Thanks for the great post!
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Wow, that's great for your nephew! I wish mine had been as lucky yesterday

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Yea its good to hear he wont be circ'd.
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Reading this thread, a couple things disturbed me.

1) As said, when he grows out of the "baby fat", will she want to circumcise him then? Educate her now, so she'll see that everything is normal. OTOH, the more time she has to bond with an intact son, then hopefully that'll change her mind.

I wouldn't hedge my bets though. The only thing saving him is the baby fat. OTOH, if his penis gets big enough to circumcise, then maybe the mom believes in the "he'll remember it later" excuse and use that as a reason not to do it.


2) What if she has other sons? Will she want to circumcise them? And then this son will have an older brother. Will she want them both circumcised "so they'll look alike" ??
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Reading this thread, a couple things disturbed me.

1) As said, when he grows out of the "baby fat", will she want to circumcise him then? Educate her now, so she'll see that everything is normal. OTOH, the more time she has to bond with an intact son, then hopefully that'll change her mind.

I wouldn't hedge my bets though. The only thing saving him is the baby fat. OTOH, if his penis gets big enough to circumcise, then maybe the mom believes in the "he'll remember it later" excuse and use that as a reason not to do it.


2) What if she has other sons? Will she want to circumcise them? And then this son will have an older brother. Will she want them both circumcised "so they'll look alike" ??
It's hardly the optimum, but far better than the norm.
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Reading this thread, a couple things disturbed me.

1) As said, when he grows out of the "baby fat", will she want to circumcise him then? Educate her now, so she'll see that everything is normal. OTOH, the more time she has to bond with an intact son, then hopefully that'll change her mind.

I wouldn't hedge my bets though. The only thing saving him is the baby fat. OTOH, if his penis gets big enough to circumcise, then maybe the mom believes in the "he'll remember it later" excuse and use that as a reason not to do it.


2) What if she has other sons? Will she want to circumcise them? And then this son will have an older brother. Will she want them both circumcised "so they'll look alike" ??

Both thoughts have been in the back of my mind. I have been educating her- so much that, while she was still pregnant, she threatened to cut me off from my niece and my nephew if I kept pushing it. So I need to be slow and tactful for now, but if I'm too slow and tactful, I may not get to her in time. As for any other sons of hers, I don't know for sure, of course, but I'm pretty sure that she will either end up with them all circed or all intact, if she goes on to have any more sons. If she leaves him intact, then it will almost be a non-issue if she ever has another son. If she ends up circing him, especially if there are no complications, it will be a lost cause to convince her not to circ any future sons (not that I wouldn't try to talk her out of it!). She's more likely to want sons that look alike instead of sons and Father's who look alike, know what I mean? It's all been weighing heavily on my mind.

I pray for the day Family Court recognizes that CHILDREN have rights, parents only have PRIVILEGES.  Only then, will I know my child is safe.
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I finally met my nephew yesterday (3 weeks, 1 day old) and I peeked while she was changing his daiper. Still no circ and I noticed that, even though it was a really messy diaper, she also did not retract him. I have a feeling she's not gonna circ him. She seemed completely happy and comfortable with his body the way it was and the fact that she did not retract tells me that the pediatrician has talked to her all about circing. Still a slight chance of him getting circed, but I have a feeling he's gonna stay intact.

By the way, check out my signature- click on Doodlebug. I finally got a picture of Alex.

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Phew! Lets hope she will just forget about it and be consumed with caring for her new and perfect little guy!

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Has it occured to her that removing something from something makes it smaller.

Why don't we call this penis reduction surgery? It would be accurate.

I've heard several restored men state they they gained an inch or so in length and some in width due to no longer having tight shaft skin restricting their erections.

Something to think about!

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I hope he'll stay intact.
good luck.
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I'm glad he is still intact and hope he stays that way!
The picture you linked is just adorable
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I'm glad the little guy is still whole he's adorable, btw!!
I pray that mama realizes that she loves EVERY bit of him and he stays that way. :

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