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I was reading the posts and found something kind of funny......I have hyperemesis (had it with all pregnancies) and everything the drs/nurses said to eat helped too including not eating/drinking at the same time. I was told to eat anything that I felt I might keep down by my nutritionist ( they were worried because I was losing weight...more than 12%) and the only things that helped me was milk and protein I remember going everyday to Alberts restaurant to order their steak and egg dinner....my husband was horrified. The drs/nutritionist gave the same recommendations with regards to everything else you said (eg. no water, eat watermelon, crackers etc) but encouraged me to try to look for foods that might sit ok with me as long as I made absolutely sure not to eat and drink at the same meal. For me, the carb. would have made me much worse. Maybe there is something in my system that needed the protein? I am now 6 months and beginning to feel better
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Hey there! I'm only taking Premesis, which is a prescription prenatal w/ time release B6 & calcium. It helps a lot; I went from waking up at 3AM vomiting bile to only throwing up every few days. I take unisom in the evenings if I'm feeling really sick that day, and the effect seems to carry over to the next morning. I'm not opposed to stronger drugs, but I'm not sure they're warranted in my case. I feel crappy, but I am able to eat, usually three meals a day. I'm not losing weight; in fact I've gained 10 pounds (probably because all this sugar is horrible for me. : ) I guess if I'm still feeling this sick by my next midwife appointment I'll talk to her. She's very antidrug though so I suspect she'll just tell me to wait it out. It's tough because if I were seeing my old OB (or any OB group), they'd give me zofran in a heartbeat....but they'd probably section me when it came time to have my baby.

Anyway, I started the new eating plan last night and will get more stuff for it at the store. Hey just out of curiosity- why no plain water? It seems so neutral.
Water just sits in your stomach. It doesn't digest like other drinks.

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I was reading the posts and found something kind of funny......I have hyperemesis (had it with all pregnancies) and everything the drs/nurses said to eat helped too including not eating/drinking at the same time. I was told to eat anything that I felt I might keep down by my nutritionist ( they were worried because I was losing weight...more than 12%) and the only things that helped me was milk and protein I remember going everyday to Alberts restaurant to order their steak and egg dinner....my husband was horrified. The drs/nutritionist gave the same recommendations with regards to everything else you said (eg. no water, eat watermelon, crackers etc) but encouraged me to try to look for foods that might sit ok with me as long as I made absolutely sure not to eat and drink at the same meal. For me, the carb. would have made me much worse. Maybe there is something in my system that needed the protein? I am now 6 months and beginning to feel better

I crave protein, too. Anyway, the nutritionist is a specialist in hyperemesis. My MIL is a nutritionist and was shocked at my diet, too, but it's a common diet among nutritionists who are very knowledgable about hyperemesis. I was under the impression that I should eat whatever I could, but they've helped me understand why those choices weren't always great choices and how they could hurt me more. I'm really learning WHY I should eat what they're telling me to eat and WHY I should avoid what I'm not supposed to eat. It's nice to know the reasons, not just be told to eat it because they said so.
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I crave protein, too. Anyway, the nutritionist is a specialist in hyperemesis. My MIL is a nutritionist and was shocked at my diet, too, but it's a common diet among nutritionists who are very knowledgable about hyperemesis. I was under the impression that I should eat whatever I could, but they've helped me understand why those choices weren't always great choices and how they could hurt me more. I'm really learning WHY I should eat what they're telling me to eat and WHY I should avoid what I'm not supposed to eat. It's nice to know the reasons, not just be told to eat it because they said so.[/QUOTE]

The nutritionist I saw was an expert on hyperemesis also. She and the drs (also experts in hyperemesis) were concerned that I had lost approx. 12% of my body weight which is not good. They gave the same advice on what and what not to eat but they also tried to encourage me that if there was ANYTHING my body could tolerate to go for it. At that time, I was not eating at all and was losing weight rapidly. They were concerned about calories for me and the baby. I was at the point where I was not eating at all and could not tolerate anything. I was subsisting on the i.v alone. When I asked why the protein helped in my case, they told me that what one person can tolerate another cannot. I threw up trying to eat crackers, watermelon etc. The only thing that handled my nausea was protein. It may not work in all cases but it most certainly worked in mine.

How is hyperemesis gravidarum treated? Your treatment will depend on how bad your hyperemesis is. Always work closely with your caregiver to find the treatment that is right for you. You may need to receive more treatment in the hospital if you cannot control your hyperemesis at home. Some of the treatments for hyperemesis may include:

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Avoid foods that make you feel sick to your stomach. Foods that have strong odors may cause nausea for some women.


Avoid having an empty stomach. Eat small meals often throughout the day.


"Eat low fat, high protein foods. Examples of these foods are lean meat, beans, and turkey or chicken without the skin."


Eat bland foods such as dry toast, dry cereal, noodles, and bread. Other bland foods are bananas, apples, rice, and popcorn without butter. Avoid spicy and greasy or fried foods.


Eat crackers or dry toast before you get up from bed in the morning. Get out of bed slowly. You may also try eating a snack before you go to bed at night. Keep crackers or dry toast at your bedside to eat during the night if you wake up hungry.


If drinking liquids with meals makes you sick to your stomach, drink liquids between meals instead. Wait at least 30 minutes after eating before drinking liquids. Drink small amounts of liquids often.


On days when you feel better, eat a variety of foods from all the food groups.
http://www.drugs.com/cg/hyperemesis-gravidarum.html
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Well, you can't argue with what works! I've been there, too, not able to eat anything at all. I also was sustained on IVs for awhile. I was eating whatever I could get down, but I was making really bad choices (like pizza, the only thing I could stomach), but I was making myself sicker from it. I'm finally at a point with the pump and phenergan that I can eat things like crackers and frozen grapes and baked potatoes, which is what my diet now consists of. I want more, but I'm finally able to stomach these things and I'm finding that I'm getting better. If protein works for you, go for it! I just don't think my body could digest it easily like it can the carbs.
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Yeah, that is what I was told when I questioned them about the protein. I thought it was kind of weird. They said the same thing....what will work for one will not work for another. When the extreme nausea went down to "normal" you would not believe the amount of protein I seemed to crave. I mean, 5 eggs a day! I know I know not good and I have stopped now. I asked why and dr mentioned that the baby needed protein for growth and that I had been without eating sooo long that my body was trying to make up for it. Now, it is more normal but I still find that I HAVE to have some sort of protein for breakfast or I end up throwing up all day. You mentioned frozen grapes: I still love them. It seems almost like food cravings..what one craves others dont or find disgusting
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I forgot to add something....Pizza!!??:Puke That would have made me so sick The grease in it would have killed me I think. In my case, I found that eating something with protein was the only thing that "might" stay down and make me throw up a bit less (eg 8x instead of 12x etc). My poor husband kept trying to bring mcdonalds/wendys/kfc etc and I couldnt tolerate them at all. Just the beef (not chicken....still cant even look at it) and hard boiled eggs. You sound like you were in the same boat as me I was also on the iv and hospital 6 times (boy am i sick of hospitals. Did you have a picc line? I mean the home iv therapy? I am betting you did also. It helped me a bit but I ended up getting a picc line blood infection and was in intensive care that I am still recovering from. How are you doing now?
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No, no PICC line. They were going to do one, but wanted to see if the zofran pump worked first. It does for the nausea, but I'm going to end up with a PICC if I don't start drinking. I haven't had over 20 oz/day in the longest time...I was severely dehydrated at the hospital, but I had the constant saline running through me for a week. My ketones have turned from negative to trace, I've been home 5 days now. They're on me to start drinking, but oh it just makes me so sick to drink anything.
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Here are some pics of my pump, the needle, and the catheter for those interested.
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I had begun to feel so much better. I was taking my meds *maybe* once a day, and just in the evening. Many days I didn't need meds at all! Now the past 3-4 days I've had to start taking my meds again . It's so frustrating!!! I don't understand why things are going downhill again! I've started getting migraines everyday now. The meds I take for them help sometimes, and other times doesn't do anything but make my nausea even worse and make me shaky. I hate this!!

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Greenflower, how many weeks are you? Sorry that you're sick again.
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I had begun to feel so much better. I was taking my meds *maybe* once a day, and just in the evening. Many days I didn't need meds at all! Now the past 3-4 days I've had to start taking my meds again . It's so frustrating!!! I don't understand why things are going downhill again! I've started getting migraines everyday now. The meds I take for them help sometimes, and other times doesn't do anything but make my nausea even worse and make me shaky. I hate this!!
This is my story exactly!! I will feel great, then awful, then great, then awful!! Come on! I'm 17 weeks now is this ever going to end!!!

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No, no PICC line. They were going to do one, but wanted to see if the zofran pump worked first.
You know, I asked about a zofran pump but they said it is not available here (I am in Canada) so all they did was give me the picc line with a combo of gravol/saline that did absolutely nothing for me. And they expected me to be able to take oral meds: At least, it seems to be getting better now...just like normal morning sickness now except when I have to change dd2 diapers....I use a nose clip...you know, the ones you would use for swimming? It actually helps a bit muffling the smells.
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Oh, I'm sorry about the zofran pump You could move here for a few months! I get you about the diapers, though. Yuck! It's looking at the poop that I can't stand.
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16 weeks tomorrow.

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16 weeks tomorrow.
I'm so sorry. I know how frustrating it is when it's "supposed" to go away in the second trimester. By that point, I was way past over it.
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