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Hey all,

So most of us don't know the gender yet, but it's never too early to start thinking/talking with your partner about circumcision. It's something that a lot of people in America do by rote, without really questioning it. But in truth, it's unnecessary surgery on a brand new baby that causes a lot of harm. We left our son intact and I'm so happy about it every time I change his dipe and see his beautiful natural body.

SO, in case you have questions or would like to learn more, there's a whole forum about it on MDC:
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...splay.php?f=44

You can post questions here if you want, too.

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as the mom of two intact boys, I just wanted to say that like with most things when it comes to preg. and parenting, read all you can, and ask all the questions you can. I was ambivilant about the whole circ. thing until we found out we were having a boy. for me it was my DH who asked me to do the research because he wanted what was best for our son. I wouldn't have thought to question circ.'s if it handn't been for an article in Mothering. I will always be greatful for the information, and the empowerment that information provided.
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as the mom of two intact boys, I just wanted to say that like with most things when it comes to preg. and parenting, read all you can, and ask all the questions you can. I was ambivilant about the whole circ. thing until we found out we were having a boy. for me it was my DH who asked me to do the research because he wanted what was best for our son. I wouldn't have thought to question circ.'s if it handn't been for an article in Mothering. I will always be greatful for the information, and the empowerment that information provided.
I feel the same way. I never questioned it growing up, and my only experience with intactness was a 4-year-old I babysat. When I noticed he had a foreskin (during a brief nudist phase ) I just thought "huh, weird." I'm not sure I ever would have done it because I'm the nerdy type who researches EVERYTHING, but still, I'm glad I found the info I did. As soon as I started reading about it I was horrified that *anyone* does this.

I've read many stories from moms who didn't know the facts and had it done and were devastated later. I'd hate for that to happen to anyone else!

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We will definitely not circumcise. Dh is not circumcised because his mom had a foreign doctor and he recommended not circumcising (at least that's what dh told me) and I'm so glad for an intact dh!
If we have a boy and my mom says something like "don't you want him to look like his father?" I can't wait to say "if we don't circumcise, mom, he will look like his father"
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If we have a boy, we will not be circumcising.

DH was circumcised and he he against doing anything like that to his son without a medical necessity (i.e. to repair severe hypospadia, etc). However, if the boy were to choose circumcision later after learning the facts, we would support him.
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I am sure DH will love my sharing this...
but he was circumsized at age TWELVE.
And guess the "medically important" reason for it?
He's from the Philippines (lived there til he was 18) and I guess it's a folk belief that circumsized males are taller.
At 12, they decided he wasn't tall enough... and wanted to see if he'd grow more by being circumsized. COMPLETELY TRUE!!!!!!!
DH is a whole 5'3" (5 inches shorter than me ). I don't think it worked.
How traumatic for a young man!
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Oh, how terrible for your DH, booflies! Where do all these myths come from...and how could someone possibly believe that?

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We will not be circumcising and it is because of MDC! DH was not on board until I showed him the video, for some reason the data wasn't enough for him. TMI as well, but DH has a scar on his penis b/c his circumcision was botched and it had to be done twice, poor thing! You would think that would be reason enough, but it was the video. I figure if our son really wants to get it done when he's older I will support it, but it's not my place to do it.

We are 100% keeping our son intact (don't know yet of course what we're having), however I have to be honest that I'm nervous about the upkeep of it. I think it would be the same if it were any boy since I was always a nanny for baby girls, but it does seem like I need to be a little more educatied as far as cleaning and protecting my son from uneducated doctors.

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I have to be honest that I'm nervous about the upkeep of it.
There IS no upkeep! You do absolutely NOTHING. The general rule is "clean it like a finger"- IE give it a wipe and you're done. The foreskin should absolutely NOT be retracted until it does so on it's own- and then you just teach your son to gently clean it when he's in the bath. That's it! A lot less work than a circ'd penis, which you have to (if I understand correctly) retract every so often to ensure it doesn't re-attach or something

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My oldest was circ'd. I was a first time mom and so I was nervous enough about things. It absolutely broke my heart to see his penis wrapped in gauze with the goo all over it, and what was obviously a very painful wound because of the appearance. When I changed him, each time I would have to unwrap the gauze from around it, clean it and re-wrap it. We both were sobbing by the time each diaper change was done.

I have no idea how this is sold as the better option for those who have no religious reasoning for it. Of course, that was 1989 and I have no idea if things are done the same way now. I was just 19 years old and I don't recall ever being asked; I only remember being told that it was done and he "slept through the whole thing". I was so uninformed in those young and pre-internet days that it didn't even occur to me to question it. It horrified me many years later to find out how often that line is used to assuage parents.

My youngest boy is not circ'd, and if the little one on the way is a boy he will not be either.

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A lot less work than a circ'd penis, which you have to (if I understand correctly) retract every so often to ensure it doesn't re-attach or something
Yes, my friend had a son last year and it was reattaching so she said she had to quickly pull it back b/c it was reattaching. She did this even after the pediatrician did it in the office and it sounded terrible!

Circ or not, I'm just not familiar with cleaning dirty diapers on baby boys. I obviously have alot of reading to do so I feel comfortable with telling others how to handle my son, that's what I meant by more upkeep b/c it is more upkeep in the sense that I've heard doctors try to retract, etc. and I need to be armed with data like I am with other aspects of my medical care.

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Arrgghhh...sending DH over to the MDC circ threads...

He's circ'd, so is everyone else he knows, except "that weird kid in middle school who got teased all the time because he wasn't".
When we were pregnant with (then unknown) DD the circ decision nearly started WWIII in our family. Time for another go-round I suppose, especially as I'm getting "boy" vibes this time around.

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There is seriously no drama involved in caring for an intact penis. Just let it do its thing.

Where I come from people don't circumcise. The only circumcised penis I've seen was on an American ex-boyfriend, so it's not something that ever crossed my mind for a second. Where I'm living now it's actually kind of hard to get done - it's uncommon so you have to get a specialist come do it. Definitely not the default option!

I have to say, coming from a land of intact men and boys I do find the 'how to keep it clean' arguments kind of annoying. I was pregnant with my first in the US and came across this quite a bit, the 'oh but it must be so unhygenic, how would you clean under there?' thing. As if all the men and boys I knew either had filthy penises or some secret complex cleansing routine.
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Where I'm living now it's actually kind of hard to get done - it's uncommon so you have to get a specialist come do it. Definitely not the default option!
That's how it is here, too. It's great!

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I can't believe people have issues about cleaning intact boys penises and yet have no problems with a girls, I mean jeez, a girls bits are so much more complicated, especially after a particularly nasty poo lol.

If you can clean a finger, you can clean an intact penis.
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If you can clean a finger, you can clean an intact penis.
: I don't get any of the pro-circ arguments. They don't make a bit of sense to me.
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Most people here in NS don't circ. I grew up in the UK, where again, most people don't circ. I never occurred to me or DH to circ DS. DS has just turned 5. The other day when he was having a bath he asked me what the purple thing on the end of his penis was. My heart skipped a beat, and I had awful visions of open sores on his penis, or big scabs or something. No, he'd just figured out how to retract his foreskin, and the "purple thing" WAS his penis.

It's no big deal to clean up a baby boy after a diaper change. The friends I know who have both (and their sons are mostly uncirc'd) even say that cleaning up a baby boy is easier, because there are fewer nooks and crannies that need cleaning, it's all right there out front.

If this one is a boy, it won't be circ'd, cause basically none of his friends will be, none of his relatives will be, and it's just not a common procedure here, except for religious reasons.
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We will not be circumcising and it is because of MDC! DH was not on board until I showed him the video, for some reason the data wasn't enough for him.
Sounds just like us!

I am so thankful that I found MDC I am sad to say that if DD has been a DS she would have been circ'd. That makes me so sad. I am so glad I know better now!

I thought it would be hard to convince DH, but after seeing (and hearing ) the circ video his mind was immediately changed. He even has anti-circ discussions with his friends Of everything I said to DH this is what he says stuck in his head - His Body, His Choice.

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I know you guys are just answering what you thought was my question, but I guess I'm not getting my point across the right way. I know nothing about the natural retraction of a penis or anything and neither does my DH. I would like to know as much info so I can help inform my DS and family members when the time comes. I know it doesn't seem like a big deal to some people, but when you've never changed a boy's diaper before you may have questions. Just picture if you were a man that never changed a girls diaper, you would still have some questions, right? I guess that's what I'm looking for, just basic information b/c I have read that doctors will try to retract, etc. and I want to know as much info as possible. Cleaning like a finger is fine for my every day knowledge, but not against this pro-circ society, know what I mean? This is not a cleanliness question.

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Please check out the Case Against Circumcision forum. There is lots of great info and there's also a sticky entitled A Warning For Parents of Intact Sons.

Retraction happens at all different times, from birth to puberty and beyond, and to different degrees of "completeness". DS has been very retractable since about 16 months, but I can't say if it is completely retractable b/c no one has ever attempted to retract him.

As for general cleaning and changing a baby boy's diaper, the worst part is cleaning the scrotum...very wrinkly and things tend not to wipe away as easily there.

OT: I'm nervous about changing a girl's diaper if this one turns out to be a girl. Seems like there's so many more places to have to clean!

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hey chisub,

I get what you mean.

Here's the dealio: With an intact son, it's good to interview pediatricians ahead of time and ask them how they tell patients to treat intact penises. If he says "you just pull it back a little and clean under the tip," you should try another doctor, because this one is likely to try to retract your son. (Plus, personally I find it annoying to be peppered with misinformation by my ped.) Once you find a doctor you feel has some knowledge, at every visit before the diaper comes off you remind them to please not pull back the foreskin at all. Stand right there while they examine the genital area (they like to check the testicles to make sure they're descended or something) and be ready to intervene if they go for the penis.

It sounds like a lot, but really, once you have a trusting relationship with your son's doctor you don't need to be so vigilant. I stopped saying anything to my son's doc after the first couple of visits; she never tried to do anything to his foreskin. I did have an incident with one of her partners who pulled it back a little despite my objections. I left the practice and have found a better one.

As far as retraction and how *you* care for your son, that part's easy. The thing to remember is that the only one who should ever retract the foreskin is the owner of the penis. It naturally begins to separate sometime in childhood...maybe at age 3, maybe not til the early teens. Your son will be playing with it one day and discover that he cal pull it back, and from what I've read they're usually pretty psyched about it. Once you've seen him do that, you show him how to pull it back and rinse under there with plain water when he bathes. That's it.

The reason you need to be careful about premature/forcible retraction is that it can cause tearing, introduce infection, and can cause a condition called phimosis which is a tightening of the foreskin that can interfere with urination. The previous generation of parents and docs were taught that you have to pull the foreskin back and clean under it, which probably caused most of the stories you hear about Uncle Joe who "had" to get circumcised at age 12. The idea that intact penises are harder to care for was actually started as deliberate propaganda by turn-of-the-century docs who wanted to encourage everyone to circ.

Does that help a bit?

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I'm not in your DDC; I'm due in 8 weeks with a boy. But I wanted to say that I'm SO glad that someone thought to bring this up. It's easy to assume that we're all boycotting circumcision because we're members here; and easy to forget that not everyone knows yet! Good call OP for bringing up the subject. I had no idea with my first and didn't find out about circumcision or MDC until it was too late. I wish I'd had the information I have now, then!

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I am sure DH will love my sharing this...
but he was circumsized at age TWELVE...wanted to see if he'd grow more by being circumsized....
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...DH was not on board until I showed him the video, for some reason the data wasn't enough for him...
That's the way for some people. I'm really glad he's watched the video! Your son (if you have one) will be entirely better off for it; as will his future partner.


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...I have to be honest that I'm nervous about the upkeep of it...
I'm nervous about that too. I was talking to my sister about it; and I remarked how strange it is that we're so mis-informed that we're worried about how to care for a normal body part! Interesting, isn't it? I'm glad we have a forum in which to ask questions, and I'm super glad to have been forewarned about retracting (do NOT retract, if you didn't know!!). As someone else said, the scrotum is very difficult to clean; I think it'll be a heck of a lot easier than what we're thinking. But whatever the challenges we may face, it's far more worth it than making our babies suffer, so I'm in.

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Arrgghhh...sending DH over to the MDC circ threads...the circ decision nearly started WWIII in our family...
Feel free to use your "My body made that child, and he's perfect the way he is. Are you doubting my work is anything less than perfect??" card.

In all seriousness; you decide not to, and in the end, he'll find out that it's really not that big of a deal. If you want information, I have a really well written information email complete with information on how circumcision is just a money making driven-by-fear-and lies business at the expense of your infant; common myth-busters and links. Any one of you is welcome to PM me your email address and I'll send you a copy.

Now, if you'll excuse me; I have to go have a talk with the expectant mama's in my DDC!!!

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If this baby is a boy, we won't be circumsizing. I think it's an unnecessary procedure, and since my DH is from France, he isn't circ'd, so there's no way he'd let that happen to a son of his!
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For me it's the opposite. I'd be scared to death to try and care for a circ'd penis while it healed. I'd be terrified about adhesions and other problems for a long time.
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For me it's the opposite. I'd be scared to death to try and care for a circ'd penis while it healed. I'd be terrified about adhesions and other problems for a long time.
This is pretty much how I feel about it.

Ds is intact, thanks not to MDC but to Mothering magazine. When dh & I were still dating, we were at a bookstore one day and he picked up a magazine at random - it happened to be Mothering's coverage of circ, in 1997. He walked out of the store saying that no son of his would EVER be circ'd.

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My husband is intact... Both my brothers are circed. I would have never even thought about it if it wasnt for my husband. If we have a boy he will stay intact.

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My DS is not circumcized, even though I knew NO other men who were not. I just couldn't imagine putting a newborn through that type of surgery... that was my main concern. DH agreed.

It's weird because now when I see a baby that is circ'd it looks so unnatural and strange. You start to realize that the head of the penis is not supposed to be so exposed!

In Seattle I heard that way less than 50% of boy babies are being circumcized. Almost none of my friends circ'd their boys. So I'm sure these LOs won't have the problem of being the "only one" who is intact. In fact, circ'd boys might start being the unusual ones.

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It's weird because now when I see a baby that is circ'd it looks so unnatural and strange. You start to realize that the head of the penis is not supposed to be so exposed!
I totally feel this way, too. When I change a circ'd baby's diaper at church or something, I feel like I'm seeing something I shouldn't, ya know?

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For me it's the opposite. I'd be scared to death to try and care for a circ'd penis while it healed. I'd be terrified about adhesions and other problems for a long time.
My son is circ'd (before finding MDC) and it is hard. If this is a boy, I will not do it again. The foreskin still covers his penis but we have to pull it back and clean it constantly now. I constantly have this sick fear that something is wrong. If it's not pulled back enough, a build up of something called Scegma will develope and if it gets bad enough the foreskin reattaches and has to be cut back again *shudder* It's awful. Save your boys the pain.

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PookieMom If your son still has a foreskin, I say leave it alone. Let it reattach and heal. Smegma is perfectly normal and healthy and is nothing to avoid or clean away. Here is a site with some good advice...


http://www.cirp.org/library/normal/aap/


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Infant Smegma: Skin cells from the glans of the penis and the inner foreskin are shed throughout life. This is especially true in childhood; natural skin shedding serves to separate the foreskin from the glans. Since this shedding takes place in a relatively closed space - with the foreskin covering the glans - the shed skin cells cannot escape in the usual manner. They escape by working their way to the tip of the foreskin. These escaping discarded skin cells constitute infant smegma, which may appear as white ``pearls'' under the skin.
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When the foreskin separates from the head of the penis, skin cells are shed. These skin cells may look like white, pearl-like lumps under the foreskin. These are called smegma. Smegma is normal and nothing to worry about.
Here's a couple more.

http://www.aap.org/publiced/br_uncircumcised.htm
http://www.circumcision.org/index.htm

If he still has a foreskin after circumcision, I don't know how that would happen actually since circ. is supposed to completely remove that organ, then treat him as uncirc. and let him heal! And don't let anyone cut him again!

Oh and here is a google search for prematurely retracted foreskin. I found this interesting tidbit too.

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Your son may develop adhesions when his foreskin and glans heal but you might not know whether these have separated by themselves or will need to be separated surgically until he has completed puberty.
So in other words if his foreskin reattaches or becomes "stuck" you won't know if it's normal healing or adhesions until after he reaches puberty! So as long as he can pee, let him heal and don't worry about it!
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