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Both common observation and official statistics confirm that there
have been dramatic increases in chronic physical and mental illnesses
in American children, such as autism, asthma, and allergies since the
introduction of the MMR vaccine in 1978. Government health officials
have denied a relationship with vaccines, but U.S. Congressional
hearings on vaccine safety (1999 to Dec. 2004) revealed a total absence of
vaccine safety tests that would meet current scientific standards, so that
it can be assumed that many vaccine reactions are taking place
unrecognized
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1 in 67 children are diagnosed with autism...it is impossible for an epidemic to be genetic in origin.

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Even with no scientific evidence to support them and enough anecdotal evidence to sink 1000000 ships, "they" will never admit that it is possible that vaccines are contributing to al these problems. I wonder what it will take??

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When a very large percentage of parents don't allow vaccinations for their children, that's when it will make a difference. The only problem with that is they'll skew the figures so that instead of showing how many vaccinated children are damaged, unvaccinated children will be silently counted to make the percentage seem much smaller.
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When a very large percentage of parents don't allow vaccinations for their children, that's when it will make a difference. The only problem with that is they'll skew the figures so that instead of showing how many vaccinated children are damaged, unvaccinated children will be silently counted to make the percentage seem much smaller.
I believe it is called a control group.

They have had that in the Amish community for decades and chose to ignore it. As a matter of fact, when one or two show up with a vpd, then the news media goes into overtime with reports of the "epidemic", and admonishments for more adherence to the APA vax schedule.

The same with the Christian Science Community. There was an outbreak of meningitis at one of their private religious colleges, maybe twenty years ago or more, and the news was all over about how dangerous this disease is and how easily this terrible outbreak could have been avoided had these regressive religious zealots only listened to the common sense of the medical community and got their recommended vaccinations.

The medicals have all corners covered.

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I am with you on the vaccines, but how can the children who have autism and were not vaccinated be explained? Do you think there was another 'trigger'? Just wondering.

PS That 1 in 67 stat is staggering! I think the 1 in 150 in still what most people believe, so it blows my mind to think it is even worse!
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I honestly do not know what could be causing autism in the unvaccinated. I was in my freshman year of college in 1972 and first heard of autism in my psychology class. At that time it affected 1 in 10,000. We discussed it as a hereditary disease.

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I was in my freshman year of college in 1972 and first heard of autism in my psychology class. At that time it affected 1 in 10,000. We discussed it as a hereditary disease.
It's possible it was higher then but they just didn't diagnose it so often as they do today. Back then it was probably just "Little Jimmy is a 'slow' learner" or something to that effect.

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Being a teacher and working in schools for the past 30 years, I can say that autism is more than just slow learning. Many of them are good learners. It is a behavior and there is a spectrum that these children are diagnosed on.

But my OP was that the old childhood diseases fulfill a function in challenging the growing immune system that does not happen now.

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It has been speculated that ultrasound may play a part in autism as well. I don't know. I'll have to look into it. I know it has other bad effects, so I don't really doubt it.
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There are studies dating to 1980 at Oxford England with Dr. Alice Stewart that document the dangers of ultrasound on the unborn. Ultrasound is a fabulous tool when something is suspected as wrong, but to demand routine 20 week ultrasound scans on every pregnant woman is wrong as is the continuous wave doptone and the intermittent wave exterior monitor.

"You don't have to worry about ultrasound; that is what is used to look for submarines".

Ultrasound took over where prenatal x-ray pelvimetry left off. My mom had an x-ray with each of us in the 1950s. Until doctors have something to replace ultrasound, it will be the de rigeur in prenatal care.

BTW, another term for ultrasound is non-ionizing radiation.

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I think it's more common than that even now. I knew someone who had one almost every week. And there was nothing wrong with her. I'm assuming every midwife is different. Mine did recommend at least one every trimester which I thought was ridiculous.
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