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This is a little off topic & I am not sure if this is the correct forum but...

The whole 1 pack pampers = 1 vaccination add campaign has been weighing on my mind. I use pampers for my LO and I am quite satisfied with the product. Every time I see that commercial, I become more agitated and fell that maybe I should switch just as a matter of principle. I was wondering what other non-vaxing mamas thought about this.
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If it made me uncomfortable, I would switch. I don't use them, but if I did then I would definitely switch. They are only interested in marketing their diapers. If they wanted to make a donation to the cause without strings they would do so. But they are making a donation of only 7 cents for every diaper bought. Why not just donate to whatever cause you deem worthy and leave it at that?
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Why don't you try a few other brands and see if you like them just as well? That way you don't feel like you are contributing to the cause.

I don't use Pampers because I think they smell weird. They gross me out. We use cloth or Parent's Choice (Walmart's cheap brand).
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Babies R Us sells Seventh Generation, Earth's Best and Nature Babycare diapers. IMO, all are better than Pampers. DD had severe allergic reactions to Pampers in the hospital (and Huggies at home), so we've been using variations of the above for her and her brother. They're about the same price as Huggies and Pampers.

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I've had a negative association with Pampers ever since I fell out of a canoe downriver from their plant and the water was foamy and gross. They're a big employer in my hometown so a lot of people there feel very loyal, but not me. : So another reason not to buy them is just another drop in the bucket. The gross, polluted bucket.

Whenever DD1 needed sposies we got either store brands or Tushies, depending on what was available/affordable. DD2 has only had 1 pack of sposies so far and it was Earths' Best. I do like to pick the dioxin-free whenever possible. But I like affording groceries some weeks, too.
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Another reason I love cloth diapers. I am not supporting some massive corporation with ties to Vax.

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I know how you feel.I have been using pampers for awhile, and I like them, but Im like you, everytime I see that stupid commercial I get furious so I have stopped using the pampers just because I don't support vaccines and I don't want to be purchasing something that is helping promote vaccines. Im currently just using a cheaper diaper that seems to be working fine for my DD.
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I don't use Pampers because I think they smell weird. They gross me out. We use cloth
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I don't use Pampers anymore and switched to Huggies, then Natural Choice and now Costco brand. we use cloth diapers throughout the day and sposies at night. Pampers gave DS a rash and they smelled just WEIRD.
I started using them as we needed preemie sized diapers and BabiesRus only had Pampers swaddlers in size P, so we sticked with it for a while.

As soon as I learned the 1 vaccine per package sold I was turned off big time. Never ever will I buy Pampers again anyways!
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We use cloth

But I would avoid pampers if we didn't.

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I don't like how pampers fit. I prefer Huggies or cloth. Haven't tried the more natural ones though.
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after seeing the Sierra Leone special about how horrible tetanus is in that area (which is the area pampers is donating to) it changed my mind a bit. I know the answer to overall health there is clean water, food, and education about health and safety for newborns (I believe it is ritual to pack the baby's umbilical cord with animal feces which is a major cause of the tetanus), but in the meantime....seeing a baby taking it's last breath when he or even the mother could have had the vaccination to prevent this- just makes me think about the positives. If I have to choose between nothing and a tetanus shot to save a life...I'm going to choose to support the tetanus shot. If it were a perfect world I would say screw the tetanus shot and spend the money to educate and provide these people with the resources they need...but that's not happening. I don't think that the lack of the tetanus shot is going to force that issue either. I just didn't realize how truly horrifying tetanus is until I saw this program.

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When there was a sale between pampers or huggies, I went with huggies instead (I'd only buy those on sale and with a coupon otherwise it is store bought brands). I do some cloth diapering too but I'm guilty of buying regular diapers. That campaign has weighed on my mind and I do know other countries do suffer from diseases not here in the US. However, knowing that they are pushing all sorts of things on the other countries, I do not support them.
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We CD but the few times we used pampers it made DDs butt look like a sunburn. The perfume is nasty.

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Its sad to see a baby take its last breath but that babys blood is on its mothers hands with that stupid tradition. The fact is they are still puttibg cow dung on their babies whether vaccinated or not so how is this solving public health issues.

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I hate Pampers...Now I have another reason lol.

Seriously, they are nastier than cheapo off brands.

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Its sad to see a baby take its last breath but that babys blood is on its mothers hands with that stupid tradition.
Wow that's really harsh - those mothers probably have no clue that they are potentially harming their babies.
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I've never liked pampers (can't stand the perfume smell they use), but now that they are such big vax pushers, it gives me more the reason to avoid them. When we use disposables, I've found that I REALLy like Walgreen's Premium brand. I like Sam's Club's Members Mark brand, but they raised their prices a lot. The Walgreen's ones are a really good deal when they are on sale. Every month or so they do 2 pks for $9, which is a good deal and they often have coupons too, which make it even a sweeter deal.
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Its sad to see a baby take its last breath but that babys blood is on its mothers hands with that stupid tradition. The fact is they are still puttibg cow dung on their babies whether vaccinated or not so how is this solving public health issues.
How on earth is a tetanus shot at 2 months going to protect a newborn who has cow dung packed onto it's umbilical cord? I have not really educated myself on this problem, but it seems to me the shot is going to be too late to save that baby. The only thing that is going to save those babies is EDUCATION AND SANITATION. Not a shot of toxic chemicals.

As for the OT. We use cloth. I wasn't even aware of this campaign as I have TIVO and don't watch commercials. I don't read mainstream parenting magazines because they make me crazy.. so I am blissfully oblivious to campaigns like these. When I do buy sposies (dd3 wears pullups at night) I only buy 7th generation.
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I use cloth when we are home and use sposies when we are out and at night.
I found some wonderful Nature Babycare biodegradable sposies at Babies R Us.
I prefer to have natural as possible and try to support small businesses.
Supporting Pampers and big business that chlorinates and uses chemicals in their processing does more harm to people and the Earth over all. So their diaper processing negates the vaccination program.

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I use cloth only now. I used to buy 7th generation or whole food sposies for when I was going to be out of the house (hey, who wants to carry spoiled diapers around?) but they give dd horrible diaper rash. I hated seeing her in sp much pain from the rashes so we only do cloth now. Both DH and I actually prefer it.
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I hate pampers...the ad campaign being only 1 of the reasons. We use Luvs...I am wanting to try some more earth friendly brands but money is too tight right now.

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Wow that's really harsh - those mothers probably have no clue that they are potentially harming their babies.
i agree, that was harsh.

from what i understand, there actually has been an effort underway to educate mothers about this, but it takes time. so sad. i googled this a few weeks ago, and read that about 60% of neonatal tetenus infections are caused by the spores entering the umbilical stump, but that most of them are caused by birth attendants or moms using unsanitary instruments to cut the cord, not tamping poo down into the stump.

so either way, dung or dirty instruments, i agree with you that they don't know they could be killing their babies.

i am a non-vaxing mama myself, but in this instance, like jeliphish,i support the vaccine program in these countries where tetenus is so rampant. when the mom has been vaccinated while pregnant, it innoculates the baby.

now, speaking about the diapers...when we arent doing cloth, i like the way pampers fit and work, but they are too spendy usually. i like 7th gen, but can't find them in ds's size on sale (big lots has them for $7), so i usually get huggies or lately, kroger brand in the purple pack (3$ after coupon)....

the vaccine campaign doesnt influence my buying decision either way.

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We cloth diaper, but honestly I don't have an issue with Pampers promoting vaccinations in 3rd world countries.

Have any of you been to the third world? These women aren't birthing in clean homes. Many of them live and give birth in huts made from straw, mud and dung. Yes, clean water, better sanitation and education would go a long way to prevent the deaths that tetanus causes in these countries, but do to cultural, economic and political factors that isn't happening at the moment.

IMO, being able to chose not to vaccinate is an option of privilege.


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How on earth is a tetanus shot at 2 months going to protect a newborn who has cow dung packed onto it's umbilical cord? I have not really educated myself on this problem, but it seems to me the shot is going to be too late to save that baby. The only thing that is going to save those babies is EDUCATION AND SANITATION. Not a shot of toxic chemicals.
The vaccines are given to pregnant women and women of child bearing age and this passes the mothers immunity on to the child for the first few months so long as she is breast feeding. They are vaccinating consenting adults, not children or infants.
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from what i understand, there actually has been an effort underway to educate mothers about this, but it takes time. so sad. i googled this a few weeks ago, and read that about 60% of neonatal tetenus infections are caused by the spores entering the umbilical stump, but that most of them are caused by birth attendants or moms using unsanitary instruments to cut the cord, not tamping poo down into the stump.

so either way, dung or dirty instruments, i agree with you that they don't know they could be killing their babies.
I know there's at least one charity org. that you can donate to that sends sterile one-use birth kits to midwives in countries and conditions like this. It was discussed as a neat midwife gift if you want to donate in her name instead of giving your mw "stuff", in the homebirth forum.
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I'm planning on using 7th gen diapers (I got $250 worth free through a promotion at Amazon.com!) but their newborn diapers don't fit well so we are using swaddlers until she gets into the size ones. It does bother me that I'm supporting vaccines but I really want to be CDing so I'm already in concession mode for diapering (DH doesn't want to CD and he's going to be SAHD).
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The vaccines are given to pregnant women and women of child bearing age and this passes the mothers immunity on to the child for the first few months so long as she is breast feeding. They are vaccinating consenting adults, not children or infants.
That does not sound right at all. I will have to check into it.
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That does not sound right at all. I will have to check into it.
I believe that she is correct.

I just buy whatever is on offer. I did want to use cloth put having a serious puker gave me enough laundry to do. As she's sick less now I'm considering switching.
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I only used pampers briefly when dS was born. The packs were given to us at baby shower. I would never give them my money though. For numerous reasons.
1. I don't believe that they are doing what they say (vaccinating all the children in the world)
2. I resent their advertising for the UNICEF (funded by Merck).
The latest newborn tetnus ad has me really bugged...
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We use cloth. If we had to use disposables, we wouldn't go near Pampers because of this.
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