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#31 of 49 Old 04-07-2009, 09:14 PM
 
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I'm 26 years old, grew up in the US, and I have what looks like a vaccine scar on top of my left shoulder (as in, not on my arm). What on earth might that be from?

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My sister was the among the last group to get it. she will be forty in july. I do not have one.
Her ped, though, at the time, thought it would be unsightly to put that scar on her arm so he gave her hte shot somewhere it could not be seen.

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I'm 26 years old, grew up in the US, and I have what looks like a vaccine scar on top of my left shoulder (as in, not on my arm). What on earth might that be from?
a chicken pox scar? a mole removal?
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My DH is 26 and he has the small-pox vaccine scar. He was born in Bosnia, so I guess that's why...

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My mother's is perfectly round, like a hollow hole punch. My grandfather's is large and diffuse and less deep.

I don't know when mom had hers, but I *think* grandpa got his in the Navy (WWII).

If I remember, I'll attack the arms of my elders when they visit for DS's bday party in two weeks. I'll take copious notes and ask tricky questions.

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We were trying to watch John Adams (HBO Mini Series) and there was a scene in it where Abigail was having herself and the children inoculated with it. It made me want to :Puke
That was pretty bad. And one child got really sick from it. That must be some terrible mama guilt. There's other scary medical stuff too, if you get to the end of it.
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So what is the round one with all the little dots in it? I got confused with the thread

What does BCG stand for by the way?

Dh is 42 and has the big round one with the little holes in the middle. I do not have and I am 37 just missed it apparently.

My mom and dad and most of the older folks I know have it as well.

 
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So what is the round one with all the little dots in it? I got confused with the thread

What does BCG stand for by the way?

Dh is 42 and has the big round one with the little holes in the middle. I do not have and I am 37 just missed it apparently.

My mom and dad and most of the older folks I know have it as well.
As I posted earlier, apparently there are two separate scars/vaccines being talked about here...smallpox and BCG (for tuberculosis). It seems that each person can have a slightly different scarring reaction (to either vax), so for some of us the scar is obvious while for others it's barely noticeable. Looks like both vaxes may have been given in various parts of the (usually upper) body, so that's not a separating factor either. Sounds like it may be difficult to tell just by external examination which vax it is, but other circumstantial factors might give it away...such as current age and age when immunized, as well as location (some areas give the BCG regularly while others do not), and service in the military. Of course, some people remember getting the vax and know precisely what it was for.

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"Bacillus Calmette-Guérin (or Bacille Calmette-Guérin, BCG) is a vaccine against tuberculosis that is prepared from a strain of the attenuated (weakened) live bovine tuberculosis bacillus, Mycobacterium bovis, that has lost its virulence in humans by being specially cultured in an artificial medium for years. The bacilli have retained enough strong antigenicity to become a somewhat effective vaccine for the prevention of human tuberculosis. At best, the BCG vaccine is 80% effective in preventing tuberculosis for a duration of 15 years, however, its protective effect appears to vary according to geography."

This explains why you'd react positively to a TB test, because actually then, you have been infected with TB bacteria.

Reading up more on it, the effectiveness of the BCG vaccine can vary from 0% to 80% according to some papers.

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By the time I was born, small pox was off the schedule in CT anyway)...but my mother being a peds nurse had our ped order it for my brother and I...my scar is on my thigh.

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I don't know if this is related, but I could never get a clinical dose of chicken pox either despite countless exposures both as a child and adult.
Same here. One of my doctors drew a titer on me when I was pregnant, and it showed immunity despite never having actually suffered through CP.

I am 38 and have a smallpox vaccine scar on my upper left arm. My mom tells me that they weren't required anymore by the time I was born, but we lived in a very tiny, midwestern town and they just continued giving the vaccine until it was all used up.

My baby book says that I was four months old when I got it.

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Dh has a small pox scar - older generation lol. That made me laugh.
Me, too. I don't think of myself as "the older generation" just yet.
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My husband is 21 and has the scar. He was born in Mexico.
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I don't have one but I remember asking why the big kids at school did and what it was and being laughed at and told "It's my vaccination, silly."

I was six years old and really worried. Those things looked like cigar burns!
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my dh has the scar, he is 41. I didn't get the vax I'm 36. My dh said the vax was given in an instrument that looked like a gun and had a bunch of needles that injected at once when the trigger was pulled.
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my dh and i were born the same year 71 - he in jan me in nov. he got the shot, i didn't. in this part of canada, it was taken off the schedule in 71.

my sister in law is 27 and has the scar, she was born in the czech republic, her younger brother also does. so it was still done well into the 1980s there.

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It's kinda how we treat chicken pox now, though...exposing it to our kids on purpose to increase their immunity so it won't kill them later. I was in elementary school when the vaccine came out, but I'm so glad I never got it. I just had chicken pox and got over it. I know the smallpox one isn't that simple, though.

It was the people who had cowpox that didn't get smallpox...maybe we should just let people get the non-deadly cowpox? I don't now. I don't know too much about the issue, only that lots of problems have recently presented themselves.
I'm going to have to disagree with that concept. Exposing a child to chicken pox through natural means with no vaccination involved is attempting "natural immunity." Vaccination is attempting "artificial immunity" by hoping to stimulate antibody production--one tiny facet of the immune system. Natural immunity is a complex phenomenon involving many organs and systems; it cannot be fully replicated by the artificial stimulation of antibody production. Antibody count has nothing to do with immunity either. Furthermore, injecting an attenuated virus directly into the bloodstream, bypassing all immune system defenses, also has nothing to do with immunity. These concepts are explained in the book "The Sanctity of Human Blood: Vaccination is Not Immunization" and there are also excerpts from the book on www.thedoctorwithin.com.

Additionally, it is a myth that "the people who had cowpox that didn't get smallpox." This excerpt from the book here will explain that: http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/small...ck-to-Life.php

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I. These concepts are explained in the book "The Sanctity of Human Blood: Vaccination is Not Immunization" and there are also excerpts from the book on www.thedoctorwithin.com.

Additionally, it is a myth that "the people who had cowpox that didn't get smallpox." This excerpt from the book here will explain that: http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/small...ck-to-Life.php
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You are bringing back a nasty memory for me - this is *exactly* how it was for me. It hurt like a big dog. In my early 40's here... and I think I got it just before they stopped (my bad timing as usual). My scar is about 1/2" diameter - it's pretty obvious. Wish my mom knew better back then, but I guess I can't blame her for not knowing.

Funny thing - before I opened this thread, I knew exactly what the title was referring to ("that scar"). It was from the smallpox vaccine.
IA. My dh and I are the same age(40's). I had the vaccine and he didn't.:
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Before I read this thread, I had no idea how lucky I was. I do remember lining up to get vaxed at public school in kindy and first grade (and will never, EVER forget the pain) so my folks were obviously going to have the smallpox done there instead of at the peds.

I was born in '65. It was discontinued in '71. Oh. My. Frickin. Dog.

I think my sister had the scar but i'm not sure. She always kept that part of her arm covered.
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My mom is 45 and she has it...it's kind of in a diamond shape, a bit bigger (longer) than my thumb print. Looks like several little needle pricks holes inside a diamond shape hole in her skin (the whole top layer of her skin is missing).

It was from the small pox vaccine (funny story, when I was talking to my mom and grandma about us not vaccinating my grandma said the ONLY one she wanted my kids to have was the small pox one...I told her I didn't even get the small pox vaccine I thought she was going to wring my mom's neck until we explained that they stopped giving it in the 70's)

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