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#1 of 6 Old 04-07-2009, 01:10 PM - Thread Starter
 
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We changed dr's offices about a year ago mostly for logistic reasons. The new office that is local is highly regarded in the area as one of the best. I was a little hesitant after I took DD in last year for a bite on her back, after the dr told me it was MY fault that she's afraid of bugs (not true btw), but hey, maybe it was an off day. Lately dd's been complaining her hands hurt - coincindentally when we ask her to pick up her toys. Before we call bs on this tactic we wanted to make sure there wasn't actually something wrong (there isn't).

DH went with me. We're waiting in the room and I look at the bulletin board covered with pro-vax articles and articles about how co-sleeping will kill children. I'm thinking this probably isn't the right office for our family by then...

The dr comes in. First words out of her mouth are that dd's about due for her 5 yr vax's. Seriously, wth does that have to do with an arthritis check on her hands??? I calmly tell her we're not doing them, and go on to explain her reactions to her last immunizations (at 18 mths or so) and that once those reactions clear up we *may* consider it then. Doubtful mind you, but possible as I can't predict the future kwim? She couldn't argue that we had a valid concern, but DID try to argue everything else - how could we possibly have done any "valid" research compared to the advanced scientists who actually know what they're doing, etc. The general gist of half her arguments were that we were too ignorant and stupid to understand the implications of not vaccinating. (Granted the kids are currently on state insurance, we're both out of work and weren't exactly dressed to the nines, but I can promise DH and I are far from stupid as she seemed to assume!) We did not argue with her, I was NOT going to get into it with her, though DH may or may not have accused her of getting a kick back from Merck......

We were caught off guard. On the way home we discussed that in the future we'll just say that it's against our religious beliefs and leave it at that. I won't tell you what DH wants to tell anyone who asks what those beliefs are but it's sure to stop them in their tracks! LOL!

Yeah, I'm thinking this is not the office for our family...
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We changed dr's offices about a year ago mostly for logistic reasons. The new office that is local is highly regarded in the area as one of the best. I was a little hesitant after I took DD in last year for a bite on her back, after the dr told me it was MY fault that she's afraid of bugs (not true btw), but hey, maybe it was an off day. Lately dd's been complaining her hands hurt - coincindentally when we ask her to pick up her toys. Before we call bs on this tactic we wanted to make sure there wasn't actually something wrong (there isn't).

DH went with me. We're waiting in the room and I look at the bulletin board covered with pro-vax articles and articles about how co-sleeping will kill children. I'm thinking this probably isn't the right office for our family by then...

The dr comes in. First words out of her mouth are that dd's about due for her 5 yr vax's. Seriously, wth does that have to do with an arthritis check on her hands??? I calmly tell her we're not doing them, and go on to explain her reactions to her last immunizations (at 18 mths or so) and that once those reactions clear up we *may* consider it then. Doubtful mind you, but possible as I can't predict the future kwim? She couldn't argue that we had a valid concern, but DID try to argue everything else - how could we possibly have done any "valid" research compared to the advanced scientists who actually know what they're doing, etc. The general gist of half her arguments were that we were too ignorant and stupid to understand the implications of not vaccinating. (Granted the kids are currently on state insurance, we're both out of work and weren't exactly dressed to the nines, but I can promise DH and I are far from stupid as she seemed to assume!) We did not argue with her, I was NOT going to get into it with her, though DH may or may not have accused her of getting a kick back from Merck......

We were caught off guard. On the way home we discussed that in the future we'll just say that it's against our religious beliefs and leave it at that. I won't tell you what DH wants to tell anyone who asks what those beliefs are but it's sure to stop them in their tracks! LOL!

Yeah, I'm thinking this is not the office for our family...
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You could say, "we are not here to discuss vaccinations; our visit today is ONLY to discuss X."

"It should be a rule in all prophylactic work that no harm should ever be unnecessarily inflicted on a healthy person (Sir Graham Wilson, The Hazards of Immunization, 1967)."
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Id find a new doc. I hate docs who are condesending :

If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." Thomas Jefferson.

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I would have walked out with a parting statement that I would report them for insurance fraud if they tried to bill me for the visit. Who are these people who feel comfortable talking like that to paying customers? The hubris is at once ridiculous and disgusting.

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I would have walked out with a parting statement that I would report them for insurance fraud if they tried to bill me for the visit. Who are these people who feel comfortable talking like that to paying customers? The hubris is at once ridiculous and disgusting.

Vote with your feet--and your wallet.
Well she did actually check out DD very thoroughly and tell us what to look for to determine if her complaints are based on something more medical than a case of the "idontwannas", so I can't say the visit was fraudelent, but I'll be voting by NOT returning. It's too bad in a way because the other dr in the office is an allergy specialist, but there are other allergy specialists in the town too! After having some time to reflect on it, some of the garbage she was spouting had a chance to sink in- like how they changed the polio vaccine to a shot to prevent 2 kids a year from contracting polio and how the chickenpox vaccine has prevented thousands of kids from having neurological damage. Regardless of the damage from the vaccine, neurological damage from chickenpox isn't even listed as a possible effect of the disease on the CDC website! Sheesh!
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