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hey all - here's a snippet of dr jay gordon's email this morning responding to an LA times article. if you want me to forward the entire email to you, PM me and i'd be glad to.


"Greetings!

Dr. Rahul Parikh's article entitled, "Parents, Don't Be Immune to Vaccine Truths" should not have been published by the Los Angeles Times... Instead of attempting to educate parents, his stated aim, he attempts to frighten them."

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"Dr. Parikh then goes on to describe the patient as having whooping cough.

She did not have whooping cough.

Preliminary tests were positive ... more definitive tests done later showed that the baby did not have any evidence of exposure to the bacterium that causes whooping cough...then goes on to speculate that " . . .if she had only RSV, then she would have gotten better faster than she did, which is what led us to evaluate her further. But that combination -- being very sick and unvaccinated -- had led this child to the edge of respiratory failure . . ."

She was sick, required exactly the same care as a fully-vaccinated child and recovered. She's a healthy happy child."
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The way we vaccinate our children now is not as safe as we could make it.

JNG, MD FAAP
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Thank you!!!!
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Great response, but he still is provax isn't he? I mean he believes that vaccination in general protects the health of a child. It is this basic principle that I disagree with. I don't think they do anything to protect a child's health. A few of them MAY prevent the diseases they claim to prevent effectivelt, but at what cost??

If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." Thomas Jefferson.

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Great response, but he still is provax isn't he? I mean he believes that vaccination in general protects the health of a child. It is this basic principle that I disagree with. I don't think they do anything to protect a child's health. A few of them MAY prevent the diseases they claim to prevent effectivelt, but at what cost??
Exactly.
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Great response, but he still is provax isn't he? I mean he believes that vaccination in general protects the health of a child. It is this basic principle that I disagree with. I don't think they do anything to protect a child's health. A few of them MAY prevent the diseases they claim to prevent effectivelt, but at what cost??
from my experience, i definitely wouldn't consider him pro, but his practice has them for parents who wish to vax.
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Personally, I've summarized Dr. Jay to be like myself, neither pro or anti-vax. That said, does it matter? I don't think we should immediately try to lump people into categories; it creates bias. We should listen to what is said and evaluate the commentary/evidence without that bias. FWIW, I think it was fairly well written.

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Personally, I've summarized Dr. Jay to be like myself, neither pro or anti-vax. That said, does it matter? I don't think we should immediately try to lump people into categories; it creates bias. We should listen to what is said and evaluate the commentary/evidence without that bias. FWIW, I think it was fairly well written.
I agree that it is well written. However, I think it is crucial to identify the bias of the author when deciding the merit of their statements. Not just in the field of meds/vax, but across the board.
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I agree that it is well written. However, I think it is crucial to identify the bias of the author when deciding the merit of their statements. Not just in the field of meds/vax, but across the board.
Personally, I try to evaluate the merit of statements scientifically. Disclosure of conflicts of interest (such as monetary conflicts of interest in studies, etc.) are important but I have to be careful that I don't create my own bias. If I feel differently about someone's statements based on whether or not they are categorized in my head as 'anti-vax' or 'pro-vax', then that is bias. I consciously try very hard not to do this because this is a topic I want to be as objective about as possible.

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i have to say, i care less about what their stance on vax is and more about how they respect us and our decisions as the parents.
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