And it seems so unfair to me. It seems like vax'ed kids have a higher chance of being silent carriers in schools and spreading it around to their classmates. If dd is healthy (which I hope she will be), why should she be excluded? Yes, I know this exclusion clause is in the exemption I signed and I knew what I was signing up for in terms of possible exclusion. And nothing is certain at this point. Maybe nothing will happen and everything will be fine.
The whole situation has me completely stressed out--especially all of the nasty comments I've seen posted to online stories about pertussis in CA, and some of them are truly nasty. There is so much venom.
And of course it all seems to be coming to a head just as dd is starting her first ever school year, which she has been really excited about
I'm not really looking for advice or anything. I just can't vent my anxieties to anyone in real like (for fear of ostracism--a realistic fear given current public opinion). So I came here
It also assumes that just because she's unvaccinated, she'll definitely be infected, which is also not true. We just had pertussis here in our house in March. My DH (had a booster in 2002) and DS (unvaxed) were ill with it. I must have had some residual immunity from a natural case of it about 20 years ago...I got a sore throat and dry cough for a couple of days and then nothing. My unvaxed DD, who had two individuals with pertussis hacking all over the house living with her, she never caught it. Can't explain it, but that's what happened.
As for the comments and ostracism, yeah, it's unfortunate. When the media gets a hold of a story and public health officials decide they want to use it to promote their agenda, then facts get left behind in the dust.
Mother to DD#1 s/b @40w 2003 for unknown reasons; DD#2 nearly 10 years old; DS 6.5 years old
Why are daughters protected but not sons?
Excluding unvaxed kids from school would make absolutely no difference in terms of the spread of this disease. In fact since vaxed kids are just as likely to carry the bacteria and spread it as unvaxed kids are, excluding only the unvaxed kids is rather discriminatory
If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." Thomas Jefferson.
But I also believe that a responsible non-vaxer would be more likely to be aware of the symptoms (including the early symptoms) of WC and therefore would make greater efforts to voluntarily keep their kids out of school when their kids seem to be coming down with something, which ultimately is an even more effective way of preventing spread.
The past week or so, for example, my dd has had cold/allergy symptoms and I have been--if anything--overly cautious about keeping her from close contacts with other kids, just in case it turns out to be something more (although it's been about a week and she's not coughing). I think few vaxers would think to do that, because they either haven't read up on early WC symptoms, or they believe they are protected from WC because of the vax. And it is actually the early stage (often mistaken for a common cold or allergies) when the kids are highly contagious.
And that it precisely why they can't stop it from spreading. Not by increasing vaccination rates and not by excluding unvaxed kids from school. So frustrating.
|I understand that in case of an outbreak of any one of these diseases, the child may be temporarily excluded from attending for his/her protection.|
|can you request that your child goes to school= or you have no choice?|
|I don't think they would have a legal basis for excluding healthy kids who are not vaccinated for pertussis, because, if you look carefully at this form, you will see that pertussis is not actually one of the "required" vaccines.|
Although, I've noticed that with the recent salmonella scare, WC has been in the news a lot less. Sometimes it's nice that the media is so fickle Maybe it will all go away quietly....
I also think it's funny that unvaxed kids are kept out of school to "protect them". Like, we keep them in a bubble and the only time they are exposed to germs is at school. And by the time these diseases/sicknesses pop up, the children have already been by the affected child during the most contagious stage.
I am introducing myself on the Mothering Forum today, as the new National Vaccine Information Center's California State Director. My name is Kim Kovalchik-Ii. I live in San Ramon, California, with my attorney husband, Jeff, and our son, Ryan.
Please note there is no need to fret over this new pertussis booster mandate issue. Your school district, EVC, absolutely cannot exclude your child from school regarding this new pertussis mandate. The same exemptions which one can use in CA to any other required vaccination, are still applicable with regards to this new mandate. I personally spoke with former Assemblyman Joseph Arambula's legislative aide, who assured me repeatedly, they did not touch the exemptions regarding this new mandate (Arambula sponsored Bill AB354, which was then legislated into law). I also spoke with the Nurse Consultant for the California Department of Education and with several key personnel at the California State Public Health Department, who ALL assured me that the exemptions are applicable to this new mandate.
That being said, the only difference with this new Tdap mandate is this: You MUST sign the new blue waiver philosophical form the CDPH has mailed to every school district, regarding this mandate. The reason I've been given by the CDPH for this, is because there is no space provided to 'check off' on the older blue waiver form, for this mandate, simply because it's a new mandate. This requirement will change eventually as I'm sure they'll have a new form with the new Tdap requirement, listed on the form at that point.
Also, contrary to the common myth I see being perpetuated by various websites, well meaning though they may be, California has never had a religious exemption! However, our philosophical exemption is extremely broad based, so those of you who feel you want to use a 'religious belief' against vaccination, will still have to use the philosophical exemption waiver form.
If I can be of any help to any of you, please feel free to contact me ([email protected]).
This is an old thread about possible temporary exclusion from school of unvaccinated kids during a pertussis outbreak. Back in August of 2010 San Francisco was threatening to do that. I don't think they went through with it. http://www.baycitizen.org/health/story/san-francisco-fights-whooping-cough
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