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#1 of 7 Old 01-12-2011, 12:08 PM - Thread Starter
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I would love to start a post here with the information all of us have gathered. My son has not been vaccinated. Sometimes I worry, not because I believe all vaccines work or are safe, but just because I am a mom. I have never found a book that really answers all my questions in the way that I need. I want to know how to deal with each illness which we vaccinate for if my son were to present with one. I would love to know how others who do not plan to vaccinate will deal with each illness if they ever are faced with it.


I know there are stickies but most seem to be older.


Here is what I know so far based on my memory from what I have read in the past. I have read Romm's book, Dr Mendolsohn, Dr Sears, Tennpenny, ****** and lots of material online.

Measles - Give vitamin A, wrap the child in a blanket to bring out the rash, lots of rest and fluids, low light.


Mumps - Not much to worry about here except sterility in a boy which is very rare. Basic immune boosting.


Rubella - BTDT - My son was exposed, had a fever and a rash and was fine. I don't remember doing anything specifically to deal with it.


Diptheria - High doses of vitamin C, and seek emergency medical care. Less than 5 people get this per year in the U.S.


Tetanus - For puncture wounds, I would wash the wound with copious amounts of water, use hydrogen peroxide, soak the wound 2-3 times a day in epsom salts and use hydrogen peroxide and give my child vitamin C, Ledum, astragalus, and possibly antibiotics for a really bad wound (like I did when he was bitten by a cat). If the wound was a rip or jagged tear or very deep and serious puncture wound, I might get the TIG. According to Dr Sears, it is virtually unheard of in children under five. It might be a vaccine I consider when my son is much older.


Pertussis - If the child has it or has been exposed, give sodium ascorbate to bowel tolerance which will reduce the severity of the cough. Immune boosting supplements. Breastfeed and avoid daycare if possible for the first 6 months. If necessary use an antibiotic so that you are not contagious.


HIB - I didn't worry about this too much because my son wasn't in daycare until after the age of 2, and then only the church nursery and it is extremely rare. According to Dr Sears, after the age of 2 the chances drop significantly and most people carry this bacteria in their body. Breastfeeding is very important. Seek emergency medical care if you suspect HIB.


Rotavirus - I am pretty sure my son had this. It wasn't fun but never was I really worried. I was breastfeeding him and thank goodness he nursed a lot while he was sick. Again, breastfeeding is very important. It helped prevent dehydration for my son. Though he was vomiting or having diarrhea almost every 10 minutes one night and had the worst, nastiest diarrhea ever!


Polio - virtually eradicated in the US. I don't know what I would do to treat this if I suspected it. I guess I would seek medical care, but that would mean my child was already very sick. I may have read that high doses of vitamin C is helpful.


Chicken Pox - I would let it run its course and use vitamin A & C and other immune boosters. I had this as a kid.


Flu - We had the swine flu last year (not horrible) but we had it. Our vitamin D levels were low. This year I have been diligent about vitamin D and all illnesses have been extraordinarily minor for both my son and I. Just little colds. I also use Congaplex and extra vitamin D for respiratory illness and buffered vitamin C. This protocol works great!


Hep B - why worry about this unless you have a family member with it or a sexually active, drug using child?


Am I missing anything. Oh, I forgot PC...I don't know much about this one.

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I am really surprised noone has any thing to add here?

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I don't have anything to add - but thanks for the great info!


I have a 9 year old (adopted) step-daughter who is mostly vaxed - a 4 year old who received two rounds of shots (and the hepB shot at birth angry.gif) - and a two year old who has never had a single shot! yay!


I have never had to deal with anything that I was concerned about................except croup last year. I never heard that sound before and I freaked out and took my DD2 to the ER 

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Naturally Healthy Babies and Children: A Commonsense ...

"It should be a rule in all prophylactic work that no harm should ever be unnecessarily inflicted on a healthy person (Sir Graham Wilson, The Hazards of Immunization, 1967)."
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One other "treatment" note:  Keep any child who has been knowingly exposed to any of these diseases (whether intentionally or unintentionally) at home. Keep children who have any of these diseases home until they are well and no longer contagious.   Several of those diseases have very serious potential issues for pregnant women, for example.  Your entry for Rubella makes it seem like it isn't any big deal, but it *is* a big deal if contracted by a pregnant woman at the wrong time - and it's a big deal to her fetus.


When all these diseases were endemic in the population, people knew that you quarantined patients with them, kept them home, and minimized contact with the public.  Siblings of kids who got sick were kept home, too, because while it was a given that everyone would get "childhood illnesses," it was also a given that it was best not to expose the very young or the very old, who would have the hardest time.

savithny, 42 year old moderate mom to DS Primo (age 12) and DD Secunda (age 9).

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Yes, Rubella is important when it comes to pregnant women. I kept my son home. I was very careful and what I meant is that the disease itself was a non issue for my son.

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Please note that this forum is specifically for information pertaining to the vax issues. If you wish to discuss disease treatment or prevention, Health and Healing would be the appropriate forum to host that dialogue. Please also remember:


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