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Does someone have a good link to the graphs that show the decline of diseases before vaccines came out.  I have one that I have but I am not sure its credible. Does someone have info on this? Also, how what do the provax people say to counter this.  I would like to print these out but not sure where to find them.

 

http://www.polkmoms.com/forum/topics/the-vitamin-c-treatment-of-whooping-cough-by-dr-suzanne-humphries

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There are several graphs in this article:

 

Vaccines Did Not Save Us - 2 Centuries of Official Statistics


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The study below is - not - about vaxes or VPDs, though some of the diseases considered are VPDs.  You'll have to independently get info on the timing when vaxes were introduced etc.

 

 

Trends in Infectious Disease Mortality in the United States During the 20th Century

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=768249

 

From the abstract:

Design and Setting  Descriptive study of infectious disease mortality in the United States. Deaths due to infectious diseases from 1900 to 1996 were tallied by using mortality tables. Trends in age-specific infectious disease mortality were examined by using age-specific death rates for 9 common infectious causes of death.

Subjects  Persons who died in the United States between 1900 and 1996.

 

Btw, I had to download the PDF version of the article to get the author affiliations ...

Author Affiliations: National Foundation for Infec- tious Diseases, Centers for Disease Control and Pre- vention, National Center for Infectious Diseases (Dr Armstrong), and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Infectious Diseases, Atlanta, Ga (Ms Conn and Dr Pinner).


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There are several graphs in this article:

 

Vaccines Did Not Save Us - 2 Centuries of Official Statistics

This is exactly what I am looking for.  I seem to have problems opening the graphs to make them readable though.  After seeing these graphs how can anyone say that the introduction of vaccines caused the mortality decline if they were not introduced until 1940's and later?    I don't get it.  I'm just curious what those that are pro vaccination say about this. 

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There are several graphs in this article:

 

Vaccines Did Not Save Us - 2 Centuries of Official Statistics

This is exactly what I am looking for.  I seem to have problems opening the graphs to make them readable though.  After seeing these graphs how can anyone say that the introduction of vaccines caused the mortality decline if they were not introduced until 1940's and later?    I don't get it.  I'm just curious what those that are pro vaccination say about this. 

I just tried and could only get some of the graphs to open. However, the article is reproduced here and the graphs are larger.


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