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#1 of 16 Old 04-16-2013, 06:49 AM - Thread Starter
 
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This is a bit of a spin-off.

 

Do you think:

 

a)  The CDC lies (any evidence? This is not necessary, just curious)

b)  the CDC does not lie, it just cherry picks from data to promote the ideas they want promoted.

c) other

 

I tend to favour B, but it could be A - I just don't know.  

 

I tend to think they are a good source, but they are clearly biased.  I think they probably choose data that underplays vaccine reactions, and overplay VAD risks.  I use them more as starting off points than anything else.   I do think CDc is great to use with pro-vaxxers, as they will rarely question it, and I think the Pink Book is good to suggest to those new to research - a lot of the parent stuff on CDC is watered down crap, but the pink book does give a decent overview.  


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They are liers.

 

You just have to watch the testamony of Colleen Boyle of the CDC during the resent Congressional hearing on autism, she lied under oath. She represented the CDC at that hearing.

 

Then there is Simpsonwood transcripts and the cover up of the dangers of thirmerosal. The CDC knew it wasn't safe.

 

What they publish on infectious disease in the Pink Book and what they keep secret about the dangers of vaccines are two seperate things.

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B is A. If you cherry pick data and hide other data in order to promote your agenda, you are lying. They definitely suppress data they don't like and hype data they do like.

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B is A. If you cherry pick data and hide other data in order to promote your agenda, you are lying. They definitely suppress data they don't like and hype data they do like.

I agree.  At some B does become A.


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They are liers.

 

You just have to watch the testamony of Colleen Boyle of the CDC during the resent Congressional hearing on autism, she lied under oath. She represented the CDC at that hearing.

 

When I have a few minutes, I will watch it.  I will be interested to see what she says.  


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Liars.

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Do you have a link to the testimony? That would be interesting.

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I don't think we should trust any government agency regarding our health and what we put into our bodies anymore. It's become so corrupt, and their main agenda seems to be weakening us, not making us stronger and healthier. Vaccines,  GMO's, Aspartame, fluoride in water, mercury fillings, trying to take away our natural supplements...it seems pretty clear to me.

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Do you have a link to the testimony? That would be interesting.

I don't have it on this computer, but a google search should bring it up. The entire hearing was broadcast on C-Span.


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To quote my all time favorite comedian. "I have certain rules that I live by. My first rule: I don't believe anything the government tells me."

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Liars.... FDA are liars too.....

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Yes, I think they lie.
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Liars.... FDA are liars too.....

 

Yeah, aren't former Monsanto execs now on the FDA? See, people raise an eyebrow at that, but somehow former vaccine manufacturer execs on the CDC is apparently just fine.

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Doesn't matter whether I think the CDC lies or not.

There is plenty of proof that they have lied, no matter what I think.

 

 

http://www.autismone.org/content/foia-exposes-cdc-lied-claiming-mercury-vaccines-safe

 

 

FOIA Exposes CDC Lied Claiming Mercury in Vaccines is Safe

In 2004, Dr. Brian Hooker started demanding documents from CDC regarding thimerosal and autism via FOIA. The documents revealed CDC colluded with scientists to lie about the causal relationship between thimerosal/mercury in vaccines and autism. Because CDC is withholding hundreds of relevant documents, Dr. Hooker with attorney Robert Reeves are in Federal Court to compel the CDC to release the information. Tim Bolen is helping with strategy and publicizing this atrocity in his Bolen Report.

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http://www.naturalnews.com/033902_CDC_vaccines.html

 


CDC caught in blatant lies about pandemics and vaccines


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http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2008/06/cdc-lied-about-1-in-4-girls-having-stds.html

 

CDC Lied About 1 in 4 Girls Having STD's

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http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_59938.shtml
CDC lied to District residents about lead levels in water 
(and this one was posted in the Washington Post!)
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http://goqnotes.com/12730/forrester-lied-about-cdc-facts-on-gay-lifespan/

"N.C. State Senator James Forrester recently told Mike Signorile that he had learned from the Center for Disease Control, Atlanta, that homosexuals die 20 years earlier than their heterosexual counterparts.

Forrester’s claim was part of a long series of lies he has told about gay people and their health.  His wife Mary Frances, who is involved with various anti-gay political groups, has said that the average gay or lesbian person only lives to be 39."

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http://www.drbuttar.com/cdc-lied-about-lead-concedes-its-scientific-credibility-has-suffered-a-blow/

CDC lied about Lead. Concedes its scientific credibility has suffered a blow

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http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-18-people-died-of-the-flu-not-36000-as-claimed-by-the-cdc/

 

Bombshell: 18 people died of the flu, not 36,000 as claimed by the CDC

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http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/read.php?16,786827,787064

 

womens group: cdc lied about thousands of miscarriages from swine flu shot

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http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19990528&slug=fati28

 

Audit: CDC Moved Funds, Lied To Congress

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Once a liar.......

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