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#1 of 12 Old 05-19-2013, 12:04 PM - Thread Starter
 
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http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/145-proof-by-intimidation

You shouldn't question vaccines because:

"I'm your doctor. I have the MD and you don't."

"The Science has spoken. Since you don't understand science well and I do, you'll just have to take my word for it."

"The Science has spoken. So you're not allowed to question ANY of it--not the methodology, not the researchers' affiliations, not the gray areas, NOTHING. Media must censor all questioning because questioning is "false equivalence." There's only one side because I'm right and you're wrong."

"You don't want polio to come back, do you?"

"If you question them, I'll make you sign this intimidating form."

"You don't want an immunocompromised child to die, do you?" (Example of moral intimidation)

Read the link first. Then tell me, can you think of other examples of this tactic?

Sadly, there's little intellect left in the debate. Just intimidation.
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*What religion are you? Only Christian scientists disapprove of vaccinations.*

* you know that having faith in a "higher power" isn't enough.*

*You are aware of how deadly measles is. Well, measles is "coming back".*

The same Dr said all 3 of these things to me, and more I'm sure. (And screwed up DS2's circ.) Needless to say, we have changed Drs.
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I told the vaccination registry nurse for our county that I am vehemently, morally, and completely opposed to vaccinating my baby for Hepatitis, and I was choosing to listen to my still, small voice inside me because I feel like that is God-given intuition to keep me and my baby safe. Her reply? "God helps those who help themselves, and you need to protect your baby."
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"Even the Catholic Church no longer opposes vaccinations".
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Have you been reading Google again?

 

You couldn't possibly understand something i went to school for

 

Just because the vaccine insert listed it as a side effect doesnt' mean it's true. 

 

Only one in a million have a reaction

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What religion are you? Only Christian scientists disapprove of vaccinations.

You know that having faith in a "higher power" isn't enough.

You are aware of how deadly measles is. Well, measles is "coming back".

The same Dr said all 3 of these things to me, and more I'm sure. (And screwed up DS2's circ.) Needless to say, we have changed Drs.

Oh, too funny! I started reading this and at first thought you were some troll trying to pick a fight with me! Context is everything... lol.gif
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Nope, I usually attempt to avoid conflict, IRL and on the internet... Maybe I should edit that post a bit ;-)
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This is the legacy of the Wakefield scare, kids getting measles

http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/20/18376320-measles-surges-in-uk-years-after-vaccine-scare?lite

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*What religion are you? Only Christian scientists disapprove of vaccinations.*

* you know that having faith in a "higher power" isn't enough.*
 

 

Urgh. I've had this conversation before. I often come across as buddhist, even though I there are over 7 billion religions in the world.  I find that relationship to be a very personal thing that is so much deeper than I am a ___.  I had someone tell me that if I don't identify with a religion then I can't get a religious exemption. Uh what? So I have to follow someone else blindly and can't make the decision myself? 

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Plus, the law doesn't narrow it down to specific religions. It's kinda loose fitting, if u will.
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I told the vaccination registry nurse for our county that I am vehemently, morally, and completely opposed to vaccinating my baby for Hepatitis, and I was choosing to listen to my still, small voice inside me because I feel like that is God-given intuition to keep me and my baby safe. Her reply? "God helps those who help themselves, and you need to protect your baby."
Whatever.

Did you reply - you are right!! My baby is an IV drug user!ROTFLMAO.gif

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My doctor's office staff told me with a know it all smirk, "at your next visit, Jack needs to get the MMR or Hep B, if not you will be discharged."
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