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Our son who is almost 5 months old has what we believe to be pertussis.  It stated about a week ago as a slight cough and a weepy eye.  Well as the week went on his cough became worse and during the night it has been horrible.  It sounds just like the pertussis cough that we found online.  We took him to our Ped dr after a week from the start of symptoms and she ordered a chest xray and swabbed for pertussis.  We have not got a result back on the pertussis swab but we did get the xrays back and he already has mild pneumonia.  WE are very scared.....  They started him on a antibiotic azrithomycin.  We have researched online for alternatives to treating the pertussis.  I found serveral people mentioning the high dose vitamin C.  We have several concerns and questions about this and was hoping someome would be willing to help us with some advise.

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Special Report: The Vitamin C Treatment of Whooping Cough

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Many of the links that people will post (I had a computer crash and lost all my favorites so can't help with links!) will say that use of antibiotics will lengthen the duration of the cough because once the cough sets in, antibiotics won't do much.

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Any update on your baby? What questions specifically do you have regarding vitamin C use? Perhaps you will get some answers if you post your questions? You can Google Dr. Susanne Humpheries for info on pertussis treatment with vit c. I think she even does Skype assessments with your child..maybe?
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Hope baby is doing OK.

I just wanted to add that Vitamin C is the only vitamin that it is impossible to overdose on - you cannot harm your baby with large doses.  Excess Vitamin C is excreted out of the body very rapidly.  It might give him the poops but it won't harm the situation.


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I don't have any advice. I hope your baby is doing okay. That must be so scary.crossing my fingers for a swift recovery.

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Thanks everyone for your thoughts and suggestions.  He seems to be doing ok.  He was confirmed positive for pertussis(whooping cough).  His cough over the last 4 days since he has been on antibiotics seems to be less harsh and violent and less frequently.   He cough is also become drier- which I don't know if it is a good or bad sign. We are giving him doses of vitamin C but not mega doses.  It does seem to upset his stomach(no loose stools but discomfort) As far as his pneumonia....  A friend of mine is a respiratory therapist and has stopped by daily to check his lungs.  She has said that they sound clear every time which is a good thing.  The pediatrician also listened to his lungs on Friday and said she could lo longer hear the wheezing.  We have a follow up appt on Thursday this week with the DR. We hope and pray that everything will continue to progress in a positive.  Other that this horrible cough he seems very happy.  He is eating great and sleeping well and doing things normally as he should.  Again I appreciate the thoughts and suggestions. I have read that whooping cough can last up to 3 months.  Would it be crazy to think that this could resolve alot quicker than that.

 

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Check the type of Vitamin C you are giving him for the tummy issues.

The Vitamin C that Dr. Humphrey's and all others who have used it for healing talk about the need for it to be in the form of SODIUM Acerbate.

If your using regular AA.... ouchie tummy! It also won't have the same effect for longer as Vit C needs the salt to be utilized quickly and to ease the eating of it as well.

 

You can make SA by adding Baking Soda to AA. There are exact amounts online....

I always used the 1 tablespoon AA with 1/2 Tablespoon BS if I needed some in a pinch.

 

If there is anyway to get some bioflaviods into his diet with the SA... that would also help as they work synergistic

 

Hope that helps some....would love to hear more updates as time goes on.


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My preemie newborn got pertussis about a year ago. She was about 4 weeks actual, 36wks GA adjusted when she got it. We absolutely did the z-Pack for her and you ABSOLUTELY did the right thing by giving him those. We did SA in her and her siblings (she is a triplet) bottles for about a month+ after and for her until her cough went away. Its not called 'the 100 day cough' for nothing, it easily took 3+ months to clear. 

 

I wont share any more of my/her story because it wont be helpful for you right now, but I hope that your babe gets better soon and you are doing OK. xx

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Yes, the vitamin C must be in the form of sodium ascorbate, and it needs to be in high doses for pertussis. It should be given in equal amounts throughout the day, and to the point just before loose stools occur. So he will probably have to have one loose stool for you to figure out the perfect dose.

 

It can be mixed with water, formula, or breast milk.

 

According to this doctor, the starting dose is 375 mg/kg body weight, divided over a 24 hour period.

http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/09/07/vitamin-c-for-whooping-cough-updated-edition-suzanne-humphries-md/

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Just wanted to let everyone know that my son has made a full recovery from his bout of whooping cough.  He came through it with flying colors.  We did supplement anti-biotics with the vitamin C.  So I believe that made a big difference in his recovery.  Thanks for all your suggestions.

 

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So glad he was okay and you got him treated right away with antibiotics! Often I see that when a patient gets pertussis (I work with the ones who are admitted to the hospital because they are that sick), they encourage antibiotics for other children in the family if they are very young or have immune problems. 


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Glad to hear he's better!

 

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"they encourage antibiotics for other children in the family if they are very young or have immune problems. "

 

This I don't agree with.  Antibiotics are a treatment measure, not a preventative (at least that was their original purpose although we've strayed far from that with antibiotic use today) and shouls be used specific to the bacteria present.  There are very few things I'd use antibiotics for and it would require positive blood or other testing to confirm a bacteria (something flesh eating perhaps) and I most certainly wouldn't be treating anyone else in my family without that same confirmation.  They wreak havoc on the gut bacteria (aka gateway to the immune system) and can make one more susceptible to illness immediately following and for quite some time afterwards.  It would be like taking a child in for surgery on say kidney stones, and telling the parent they must also operate on the healthy sibling because they share dna and lifestyle habits.  Treatment is just that - fixing an existing condition.  There are far better ways to boost immunity in the imuno-compromised than to load the body with unnecessary antibiotics.

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