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This is how pharmaceutical companies make vaccines safe and effective.

 

http://vactruth.com/2013/09/26/how-pharmaceutical-hide-dangers/


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I usually dislike vactruth.com, but they are accurate this time.

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I am absolutely fuming right now.  Shared the link on my FB, as I generally do with easy read things like this that might have a better chance of being read by more people. I don't bash vaxxing on my wall, just more or less leave things open ended My cousin just went all out accusing me of endangering my child and them felt the need to throw out this little gem:

 

"And please stop breast feeding your kid she is way past that now feed get real food!!!! Wtf".

 

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He lives around the corner from us with his parents (he's 40ish, married and divorced numerous times, no kids of his own but all his women have had their own older kids) and I was suppose to go there today with my parents for a picnic and there is absolutely no way I can bring myself to go there after that.  I love my aunt and uncle.  She's a breast cancer survivor, and my uncle is currently awaiting treatment for pancreatic cancer (past experience with conventional treatment doesn't give me much hope for him, unfortunately) but they don't much embrace a healthy lifestyle, and that's fine, it's their choice.  But I don't see why it was necessary to even comment to me on my choices (seriously the breastfeeding caught me way off guard since we're not even that close in spite of the short distance living-wise).  Sorry, hijacked to vent.  This is a first for me to have someone be so upfront and rude.  I've had plenty of people look oddly at me or make sideways comments, but not so upfront and never out of the blue like this!

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Ah, sorry, sassyfirechick.

 

I am not sure whether the internet has made people ruder, or just given people a wall to hide behind so their true inner UAV violation can come out - but I am getting seriously fed up with people thinking they have any right to comment on other peoples parenting choices.  

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The fact that he said all that on your FB page and not to your face just highlights what a coward he is. Screw him. Id go to the picnic and tell him to mind his own business and shut the F$%* up as well. (Sorry Im in a mood. I am seriously tired of people that suck)

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I have read about that in other articles before but it is nice to see it being restated from other sources. It is quite amazing with what mumbojumbo big pharma lobby can get away with and the every day non-researching Tom, Dick and Harry does not even have a clue about what is going on but knowing how safe and effective all vaccines are and that side effects are so rare and basically never occur.

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Truely a remarkable rude comment your cousin has made. I would also attend the picnic and tell me that he has crossed a line and to mind his own business in the future. Sorry that this happened to you. I guess every woman who chose to bf longer than the obligatory give or take 6 month will sooner or later be confronted with this statement. Currently we are at 17 month and I am being asked at least once a week when I will finally stop bf. Whenever we are ready.

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LOL!  Thanks ladies, I was trying for once to be the nice one since our family already has so many issues with people not talking, but guess it continues! He "apologized" to me in a private FB message (again, so mature?!) and insulted me once again in the same message.  Which somehow triggered my sisters involvement (she lives 800 miles away from CT in SC) and she, 2 years younger and no kids said I cannot breastfeed my LO, her own niece, in her house....my mother already paid for my plane ticket down there in Nov as a birthday present, non-refundable of course (me, mom, LO...DH has to work) so she's now looking at hotels for us as  back up so it's not a wasted trip.

 

Totally hijacked this thread with my personal drama, sorry, lol!  Thank god I don't hold on to this shit anymore and just let it all go after my initial freak out!

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LOL!  Thanks ladies, I was trying for once to be the nice one since our family already has so many issues with people not talking, but guess it continues! He "apologized" to me in a private FB message (again, so mature?!) and insulted me once again in the same message.  Which somehow triggered my sisters involvement (she lives 800 miles away from CT in SC) and she, 2 years younger and no kids said I cannot breastfeed my LO, her own niece, in her house....my mother already paid for my plane ticket down there in Nov as a birthday present, non-refundable of course (me, mom, LO...DH has to work) so she's now looking at hotels for us as  back up so it's not a wasted trip.

 

Totally hijacked this thread with my personal drama, sorry, lol!  Thank god I don't hold on to this shit anymore and just let it all go after my initial freak out!

WHAAAAAA????

 

She has told you you can't feed your child in her house? she wants you to stay in a hotel because she disapproves of you breastfeeding?? Is she for real? I know Im getting all up in your business here but honestly why would you even want to go after being made to feel so unwelcome?? I would tell my mother to go herself and enjoy the trip since the ticket is non-refundable. It's one thing to let rude comments go, but your sister actually denying you access to her home because she disapproves of a choice that has nothing to do with her and has no effect on her whatsoever (I mean if she were grossed out or offended you could nurse in another room) crosses a line imo. In any event, Im sorry you have to deal with such bullcrap.

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She's always been "moody" and dramatic...this is actually better that she lives so far and I can say is the first fight we've had in 3yrs as opposed to basically every day when she lived with my parents!  Like shit flying, glass shattering....I stand by the fact that we were raised very differently in spite of the closeness in age. I was (and still am) always the one that was asked to "back down" in a fight, therefore she's always gotten her way by being rude.  Pretty sad/ridiculous/disgusting/unfair...yah.  Needless to say my parenting style is vastly different from my own upbringing! My mother suggested the hotel in case the sister doesn't cool of or check her hormones in the next few weeks so we have that alternative and cancel if need be.  I'm going because I don't want my mother to be out that money and I really can't afford to pay her back (which is why she paid for this trip for me in the first place - sucks being broke) but I've made it clear that if she doesn't cut the crap I have no problem finding things to do without her and luckily I do have other friends out that way that I can arrange to spend time with.

 

I had to laugh at the "grossed out" part because seriously if you could hear the things that come out of her mouth... I don't see how anything I say or do can even come close to what she says and does!

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She's always been "moody" and dramatic...this is actually better that she lives so far and I can say is the first fight we've had in 3yrs as opposed to basically every day when she lived with my parents!  Like shit flying, glass shattering....I stand by the fact that we were raised very differently in spite of the closeness in age. I was (and still am) always the one that was asked to "back down" in a fight, therefore she's always gotten her way by being rude.  Pretty sad/ridiculous/disgusting/unfair...yah.  Needless to say my parenting style is vastly different from my own upbringing! My mother suggested the hotel in case the sister doesn't cool of or check her hormones in the next few weeks so we have that alternative and cancel if need be.  I'm going because I don't want my mother to be out that money and I really can't afford to pay her back (which is why she paid for this trip for me in the first place - sucks being broke) but I've made it clear that if she doesn't cut the crap I have no problem finding things to do without her and luckily I do have other friends out that way that I can arrange to spend time with.

 

I had to laugh at the "grossed out" part because seriously if you could hear the things that come out of her mouth... I don't see how anything I say or do can even come close to what she says and does!

 

Hej, you basically stated the answer yourself. Guess she never had to live by any rules and therefore did not learn how to accept such thus going around and offending people instead of making friends and living a sociable life. Same thing happening to my younger niece right now and the effects of that are basically breaking up our family.

Why not stay at here house and just feed your LO in a different room without letting her know that you are bfing. No one gets offended and you will save some money instead of blowing it on an expensive hotel. I hope you will have a pleasant trip anyway.

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