Strategies to get us to vaccinate. - Mothering Forums

Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
#1 of 9 Old 01-29-2014, 12:41 PM - Thread Starter
 
Mirzam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Outside the hive mind
Posts: 7,440
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 64 Post(s)

This is their song sheet.

 

Communicating effectively about vaccine safety

 

http://www.dphhs.mt.gov/publichealth/immunization/documents/CommunicatingEffectively.pdf

applejuice likes this.

Rainbow.giftstillheart.gifsmile.gif

 

"If you find from your own experience that something is a fact and it contradicts what some authority has written down, then you must abandon the authority and base your reasoning on your own findings"~ Leonardo da Vinci

Mirzam is online now  
#2 of 9 Old 01-29-2014, 02:47 PM
 
Taximom5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,132
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)

Hang on a minute.


What the heck is this???
"A virulent mycobacterium tuberculosis strain was inadvertently switched with the Bacillus Calmette-Guerin vaccine in 1929.  It was given to 250 10-day-old children, and 72 infants died."

What the HECK????? Am I the only one who hadn't heard of this before? I thought the BCG vaccine wasn't introduced until the late 1940's or early 1950's?
ulent Mycobacterium tuberculosis strain was inadvertently switched with the Bacillus Calmette-Guerin vaccine in 1929. It was given to 25 10-day-old children, and 72 infants died. 

A virulent Mycobacterium tuberculosis strain was inadvertently switched with the Bacillus Calmette-Guerin vaccine in 1929. It was given to 250 10-day-old children, and 72 infants died. 

A virulent Mycobacterium tuberculosis strain was inadvertently switched with the Bacillus Calmette-Guerin vaccine in 1929. It was given to 250 10-day-old children, and 72 infants died. 

A virulent Mycobacterium tuberculosis strain was inadvertently switched with the Bacillus Calmette-Guerin vaccine in 1929. It was given to 250 10-day-old children, and 72 infants died. 

A virulent Mycobacterium tuberculosis strain was inadvertently switched with the Bacillus Calmette-Guerin vaccine in 1929. It was given to 250 10-day-old children, and 72 infants died. 

applejuice likes this.
Taximom5 is online now  
#3 of 9 Old 01-29-2014, 02:50 PM
 
Taximom5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,132
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)

I like the way they try to trash the NVIC as "media savvy, politically connected, and personal-injury lawyer backed."

What, are they implying that the vaccine manufacturers aren't media savvy and politically connected, with some of the highest-paid corporate lawyers in the world in their employ?

 

Um, right, let's take a look at how Merck funded Texas Governor Rick Perry's campaign for governor, right before he tried to MANDATE Gardasil for all preteen girls.

Mirzam and applejuice like this.
Taximom5 is online now  
#4 of 9 Old 01-29-2014, 03:27 PM - Thread Starter
 
Mirzam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Outside the hive mind
Posts: 7,440
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 64 Post(s)

In my [limited] experience of NVIC, they are not as media savvy as V4V.

Taximom5 likes this.

Rainbow.giftstillheart.gifsmile.gif

 

"If you find from your own experience that something is a fact and it contradicts what some authority has written down, then you must abandon the authority and base your reasoning on your own findings"~ Leonardo da Vinci

Mirzam is online now  
#5 of 9 Old 01-29-2014, 06:50 PM
 
ma2two's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,473
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)

I love how most of their references are by Brian Deer and Paul Offit.

Mirzam and Taximom5 like this.
ma2two is offline  
#6 of 9 Old 01-31-2014, 07:37 PM
 
mama24-7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: with the dust bunnies
Posts: 2,453
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)

Page 18: Strongly recommend vaccines: "I believe in immunizations for all children." Way to look at the child, doc.

 

I think I'll stop reading there.  I'm going to bed soon & figure it won't help me to get my blood pressure up w/ this drivel.  Cuss.gif

 

Sus

sassyfirechick likes this.

Baby the babies while they're babies so they don't need babying for a lifetime.
mama24-7 is online now  
#7 of 9 Old 02-01-2014, 10:21 AM - Thread Starter
 
Mirzam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Outside the hive mind
Posts: 7,440
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 64 Post(s)

Pathetic isn't it? These fanatical pro-vaxers can show us nothing but cherry picked industry studies and soundbites from the official CDC song sheet. It seems that the do not have an independent thought, its just parroting. The worrying thing is that this is all the general public gets if they rely on official sources and the media. This is not informed consent. It is propaganda. 

BeckyBird likes this.

Rainbow.giftstillheart.gifsmile.gif

 

"If you find from your own experience that something is a fact and it contradicts what some authority has written down, then you must abandon the authority and base your reasoning on your own findings"~ Leonardo da Vinci

Mirzam is online now  
#8 of 9 Old 02-01-2014, 10:55 AM
 
mama24-7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: with the dust bunnies
Posts: 2,453
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirzam View Post

Pathetic isn't it? These fanatical pro-vaxers can show us nothing but cherry picked industry studies and soundbites from the official CDC song sheet. It seems that the do not have an independent thought, its just parroting. The worrying thing is that this is all the general public gets if they rely on official sources and the media. This is not informed consent. It is propaganda. 

That's all I got when I was a new parent. Here's a sheet to read later, lay her down, I'll be back w/ the shots. Barf. Not informed consent at all :-(.

Sus

Baby the babies while they're babies so they don't need babying for a lifetime.
mama24-7 is online now  
#9 of 9 Old 02-01-2014, 03:00 PM
 
sassyfirechick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,563
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 19 Post(s)

"How did we get here" followed by first few slides - all F* ups of the vaccine industry- but they can't figure out why anyone would question them?!?! :laugh  So they screw up, kill a whole bunch of people that likely would never have contracted the disease they were supposedly vaccinating for, people see the problem, begin to question, and rather than look within and make things better...safer (I know, I laughed as I typed that, the irony of it) they come together looking for ways to FORCE COMPLIANCE with the current screwed up system!  Ugh.

BeckyBird likes this.
sassyfirechick is offline  
Reply

Tags
Vaccinations

Quick Reply
Message:
Drag and Drop File Upload
Drag files here to attach!
Upload Progress: 0
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Mothering Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off