@Mirzam - have you seen this one? (I didn't read through it but I *think* it is a different one than what you posted in the debates forum.)
No I don't think I have seen it. I haven't read it yet.
"If you find from your own experience that something is a fact and it contradicts what some authority has written down, then you must abandon the authority and base your reasoning on your own findings"~ Leonardo da Vinci