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#1 of 5 Old 04-05-2014, 03:43 PM - Thread Starter
 
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Take a look at the steering committee:

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20080820113513/http://www.voicesforvaccines.org/Our-Leadership/

 

Voices For Vaccines is currently led by a Steering Committee:
 

Joseph Bocchini, MD – American Academy of Pediatrics
Douglas Campos-Outcalt, MD and Jon Temte, MD – American Academy of Family Physicians
Anna DeBlois – Association of State and Territorial Health Officials
Alan R. Hinman, MD – Task Force for Child Survival and Development
Mark Kane, MD – Consultant 
Frankie Milley – Meningitis Angels
Paul A. Offit, MD – Vaccine Education Center, Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia
Walter Orenstein, MD – Emory Vaccine Center
Denise Palmer and Gary Stein – Families Fighting Flu
Trish Parnell – Parents of Kids with Infectious Diseases (PKIDS)
Amy Pisani – Every Child By Two
L J Tan, PhD – American Medical Association
Deborah L. Wexler, MD – Immunization Action Coalition
 


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They just need to come out with it. Just admit they are not innocent grassroots. What will they lose? Admit Doris is a paid poster. What will it change? Paul Offit has conflicts of interest....big deal. The people who love vaccines won't care one bit. They don't care about anything we say. It won't make them question, any more than the other mountains of evidence we present time and time again. 

 

My only hope is that someone on the fence, or someone undecided, will be able to make their choice with as many facts as possible. One important fact that should be included would be the dishonest practices of the vaccine industry.

 

Is this why V4V is afraid people will discover they are "steered" by a bunch of vaccine-pushing professionals? 

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Congressman Bill Posey has raised some interesting questions on the subject: http://nsnbc.me/2014/04/17/congressman-blasts-cdc-incestuous-relationships-vaccine-makers/   

 

nsnbc noted a clear attempt to derail genuine dialog in comments to articles pertaining vaccine safety issues. Within a 12 months period from February 2013 to March 2014, nsnbc registered more than 30 different “commentators with different names, who together attempted to post more than 500 comments, posted from only two different IP addresses in Australia and the USA, with one of them leading directly to a pharma sponsored pro-vaccine website.

 

The core strategies used are ad hominem attacks, attempts to discredit, strawman attacks, and, remarkably, also outlandish anti-vaccine claims and attempt to distract the call for transparency by posing as an “obviously” irresponsible parent or by asking for medical advise so as to detract from debates about oversight, transparency and vaccine safety issues.

Congressman Posey referred to the bloggers and tolls as “their little media network (that will) twist the truth to disparage, to malign, to vilify, to denigrate anybody who wants any kind of accountability”.


My first thought was that the pharma sponsored pro-vaccine website is V4V, but I would like to see more than an un-cited accusation.  Then again, they are talking about their own registration of commenters on nsnbc.  If that's so, then there's no legal reason they can't name that site, is there?

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Interesting, it is highly probable that the website is V4V. Not sure why they wouldn't have named them.


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