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A vaccinate on schedule, selective vaccinator, or non vaccinator. I am just curious. Before I gave birth, I went from thinking I would be a VOS, then I did a little research and went selective. After my child had an autoimmune reaction, I became a non-vaccinator. I've been researching off and on ever since, open to changing my mind if the research compels me to. So far it has not, but only reaffirmed my decision.


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I started out as a non-vaccinator, but open to being a selective vaccinator....my kids are 10 & 6, and still vax free....have not found any reason strong enough for me thus far to vax....the more I read about vaccines, the less I want to vax.
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I started out VOS. It was really just a default position and nothing I had given a lot of thought to. I had two things happen when my oldest was around a year that caused me to question vaccines.

1: I learned that while they were still giving DPT here other countries were giving dtap because it was safer.

2. The decision was made to add an extra MMR on to the schedule. When asked why - they said it was to catch the less than 5% of the population for whom MMR did not take the first time round. I asked how often people got M M or R, and the health care provider could not answer me. I thought it was pretty weak sauce for an additional vaccination.

I decided then and there that I would not vaccinate until I received some solid answers to my questions. The rationale for putting a drug into my childrens body had to be better than "because I say so." I never really got the answer to my question from HCP, although I ultimately did from the internet. I also developed new questions, and to be frank, there is too much that is unknowable about vaccines for my comfort level. As my children age, I also truly see that this is their decision to make as it is their bodies...not mine.

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Born into a healthminded family.  Grew up with chiropractic, nonvaxing, raw vegan, organic, homebirthing, clothdiapering, bedsharing, homeschooling, homegardening, breastfeeding, yoga, exercising, practices.  I was born in the early 1950s. 

 

I had all of the childhood diseases and so did my siblings.

 

When I had my children, I researched each vaccine, thinking I could selectively vaccinate.  That never happened. They all grew up never vaxed and guess what?  They lived! They are healthy, and I never had to go to an allergist or specialist for anything.  My children had most of the childhood diseases. 

 

I NEVER HELD IT AGAINST ANYONE IF THEY DECIDED TO VACCINATED THEIR OWN CHILDREN.  

 

I have always figured that everyone makes the best decision they can for their own family and they live with it.  

 

Thank you - this should be a good thread....


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I started out totally into vaccines, mostly because I liked the idea of being completely on schedule for the sake of being "compliant." I guess I wanted some gold stars. Then, luckily, I randomly came across some information against vaccines, and that started my interest in the subject several years before I had my first baby. So by the time I was pregnant for the first time, I had decided on no vaccines.

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I started out VOS, because I believed that vaccines were life saving, and that my babies needed the protection of vaccines to survive infancy, because that's what the doctors told us.

All my children had severe reactions.

The first time, we were told that such a reaction was a one-in-a-million fluke. Well, actually, first, we were told by the nurse that it couldn't possibly BE a vaccine reaction, because "vaccines don't DO that!" The pediatrician, however, was more troubled by the reaction, and said that it needed to be reported. He assured us that "lightning doesn't strike twice in the same place."

He was half-right.

Our other children had different reactions--to different vaccines, given at different ages.

After the last one, he told us that our family had some kind of unusual predisposition to vaccine reaction that he didn't understand, but that he did not want to mess with. He knew that we never had complications to the vaccine-available diseases that we did get--in fact, we either had very mild cases, or we sailed through with no symptoms at all.

Bottom line: we have a much better chance of recovering from the disease without complications than we do of recovering from the vaccines without complications.
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I started in '89 with VOS, and back then it was very minimal compared to now...he had reactions all along, including an autoimmune disease popping up by a year old, which was dismissed as 'excema' and nothing was done about it.  He had sand paper skin ALL over him, constant flaking and peeling, raw, oozing sores at times....finally after moving to Boulder, Co and hooking up with a competent dermataologist, his skin condition was diagnosed - ichthyosis.  When my second came along my housemate suggested reading about how toxic dpt is, and although i had reservations about vaccines, i heeded her advice and only allowed one dose of Dt only, no P,  for my dd at the 2 & 4 mos appts, as it was available back then.  Moving around and trying to research led to delays in any more vaccines after 4mos old, and she was colicky enough as it was, EBF, reflux, and the reminder of my son's poor health every day due to his severe asthma and allergies he also developed.   

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I am one who will not vax from the start.  

 

I had cats react to a shot and figured it was same batch but over few weeks time and from then researched it for humans to see the issues. Read inserts and ingredients  I do not vax my pets except rabies in the dogs and any cat who goes out.  We do have rabies in county yearly and I do not have money for titer testing or I would do that.  Kind of an odd start to not vaccing a baby:P

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  Kind of an odd start to not vaccing a baby:P

Not at all!  I started reading when my oldest 2 dogs (just turned 9 yesterday) had reactions and were very sickly pups yet came from great lineage and a great breeder.  I thought I would be Sel/Delay after what I learned from the dogs, and did postpone the Hep B from being in hospital to first well visit (so a whopping 3 days!) and I held my ground with the no eye ointment or Vit K (I'm aware not the same as a vax but I saw no risk factors).  But was pressured by a very pushy ped into VOS at 2mos.....my poor baby.  I delayed the 4mo round to 5mo because of a cold and managed to skip the rota.....again poor baby!  Took two rounds of reactions for me to stand up to that ped and for my DD and say we were done.  Now 2yrs later we're still working to heal her gut and hoping her food sensitivities become less severe as we do that.  Right now it's no dairy, gluten or soy for the sensitivity factor and she's allergic to oats.  I went to an ND to detox her from the vaccines afterwards and I just had a really funny feeling in my gut after that 2nd round that if I didn't stop there, I might not get so lucky with the reactions in the future, so now she will remain in her minimally vaxxed state with no plans for the future unless she decides on her own, but I'll be sure to remind her how horribly her body reacted to them!

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Sounds like a good plan!  I knew something was up as these 2 kittens were not related. yet showed SAME signs.  Both died at time that pet food recall was big.  Neither was eating food off the list though.  and all my other cats were fine. Finding a vet is so much easier then a ped!  I lucked out and already found a few depending on if we end up staying in this county or moving.  I am in state FULL of openminded Drs but almost all are near NY.

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Vaccinosis?  

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10648110

http://www.pets4homeopathy.com/understanding-vaccinosis.html


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Vaccines have always made me upset. So I started reading a lot about them while pregnant with my first. When I saw the published vaccine schedule my jaw hit the floor. I think sometimes if it had been 2 shots like when I was a baby I might have just done it! I had all my babies at home, so it wasn't difficult to make this choice. Never did this new fangled thing called "well-baby visit" either.

edit: I also remember asking a doctor friend why, at the time, the recommendations for mainland usa (pretty much 3 of everything) were different from puerto rico (one of everything). I briefly considered one of each and a titer.
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Guess I started out selective because of personal and family reactions, but didn't even know that it was a big deal at the time to not follow the schedule exactly. The Drs. we usually saw at the clinic were fine with the vaccines we didn't want once they heard our medical history. It wasn't until the assistant yelled at me for not getting the chickenpox and one of the other Drs., when realizing son didn't have the HepB, told me that vaccines can't cause reactions so that couldn't have happened to me that I started looking into it more. Found the package inserts (as opposed to the little sheet they give you in office) to read and that was pretty much the end of it.


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I first became cautious of vaccines over 20 years ago, long before I had kids of my own. I bought the book ‘How to raise a healthy child … in spite of your doctor’ – Dr Robert Mendelsohn MD, and it was an eye opener for me.

When I was pregnant, I started researching again, and decided to delay and selective vax. Once my baby got to one, then I decided to wait until 2. Somewhere in there, I decided not to vax at all. It was a process. Not an easy decision with all the fear mongering out there. I don't hold it against anyone to decide to vaccinate, but it makes no sense to me. I will not inject my healthy children with toxins and risk permanently damaging their immune systems. As my children get older, I am so glad I made this decision!


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