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#1 of 21 Old 07-01-2008, 05:37 PM - Thread Starter
 
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we are not religious.

Illinois does not have philosophical exemptions and I don't feel right about the sample letters regarding religious exemptions since they do not illustrate our beliefs. Then on the other hand why would I care. I just want DS into daycare and while out doctor supports the non-vax ,as in she has never said anything, I have not discussed the medical exemption with her. I also hear they are harder to use.

Any insights would be much appreciated.

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we are not religious.

Illinois does not have philosophical exemptions and I don't feel right about the sample letters regarding religious exemptions since they do not illustrate our beliefs. Then on the other hand why would I care. I just want DS into daycare and while out doctor supports the non-vax ,as in she has never said anything, I have not discussed the medical exemption with her. I also hear they are harder to use.

Any insights would be much appreciated.
I live in Illinois, too and will use a religious vax exemption when the time comes. We're not religious and the medical exemptions are harder to use. Don't feel bad.
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Nope.

"It should be a rule in all prophylactic work that no harm should ever be unnecessarily inflicted on a healthy person (Sir Graham Wilson, The Hazards of Immunization, 1967)."
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I don't think it's wrong at all. I say whatever it takes. We use a religious exemption here in NC. The key words are "personal religious conviction". When it's personal, it can mean just about anything. Since vaxing my children would be against what my conscience tells me to do, then I feel a moral obligation to NOT vax them. When you start dealing with morals, then it crosses over to spirituality IMO, even if you are an atheist. I don't think anyone would argue with that.
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We are not "religious" I don't even think organized religion is a good idea. We will always use a religious exemption. If there is ANYTHING I believe religiously, it's that it's my job to keep my kids safe.

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I currently live in a state that has philosophical exemptions but will be moving to a state that has only medical and religious. I will be claiming religious then, totally BS, but I don't care. I'll lie if I have to to keep my baby safe from those injections.

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We "religiously" believe that there is no place for vaccines in our bodies and therefore signed a religious exemption.

Just because we don't belong to one of those "accepted" religions, doesn't mean we don't believe in something.
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No religion is a religion.

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No religion here and filing for a religious exemption. Just b/c we aren't of X faith, doesn't mean we don't have our own beliefs

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Here's one definition of religious: 3 a: scrupulously and conscientiously faithful

Are you faithful to keeping your kids safe? Are you faithful to being your child's best advocate?

Then I'd say you're religious.
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where can i find sample religious exemption letters
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...and I'd strongly advise against medical b/c it is hard to conclude a correlation or causal relationship to one vacc on record w/a doctor's blessing, and then you are only ever filing for that one said vaccine, not all of them. That is a big ball of wax you don't want to try and unroll. Use what you've been given and use it well. No one is going to give you any poo poo in this day and age over your "religious" beliefs. This is coming from someone who has kids in public schools, has btdt, and will continue to use my rights to just say no and keep my HEALTHY kids in school.
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No, it's not wrong but having to get an exemption in the first place is.

OUR DAUGHTERS ARE PROTECTED SHOULDN'T OUR SONS BE TOO! :
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I don't think it's wrong.
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When the government backs you into a corner, you have to use whatever means necessary to achieve your goals, that's how I feel about it.

There are no philosophical exemptions in my state, only medical and religious. The day care that I want to put DD2 into when I go back to work is a church day care, so I'm totally afraid that I'm going to have a problem with the religious exemption there, even though you don't have to be a church member to use their daycare (which is good because I'm an atheist).
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No, wrong is not permitting parents to opt out of vaccines for any reason.
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Medical exemptions are primary used by vaxing parents who need to avoid a specific vaccine or small group of vaccines- such as an egg allergic child not getting vaccines grown on egg cultures. Religious or philisophical exhemtions are better if you want to avoid all vaccines.

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also, in my state, the sample letter doesn't say WHAT religion you are, it just says "due to my religious beliefs i will not be vaccinating". it's none of their business what you do or do not believe in.
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I don't think it is wrong, but it is not something that I think I would personally feel comfortable doing. I live in a state that has all three exemptions though. So if I did not wish to vaccinate and lived in IL or a similar state perhaps I would feel differently.

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I don't think it is wrong but if you want to feel better about it ask yourself these questions.

Do you believe in any higher power, spirit, god, creator, etc...?

Do you believe that you were created as a perfect being?

If so than you can claim religious exemption as you do not believe in injecting toxic materials into a perfectly created being.

It works for me, you don't even have to have a declared religion.

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