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#1 of 11 Old 11-03-2008, 01:31 PM - Thread Starter
 
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I ask because I'm planning to be a SAHM indefinitely and we are homeschooling. Today is my due date and I'm still undecided as to whether we'll even take our baby in for a WBV after the birth, since my midwife does the heel prick and infant exams a week after the baby is born.

Would you get an exemption if you were in my shoes? I live in New York so it would have to be a religious one, as my state doesn't offer philosophical exemptions. I can't imagine why we'd need one except maybe to protect ourselves in case of an ER visit and some overzealous person calling CPS (?) because we don't vaccinate.

I worry about getting our son's/family's name on some kind of list of conscientious non-vaccinators or whatever (yes, I am paranoid sometimes); wouldn't it be safer and smarter to fly under the radar as long as possible? My gut says yes but I want to make sure I'm not missing some obvious legal flaw with this plan.

Any feedback would be much appreciated! Thanks, mamas.

ETA: DH is totally on board with not vaccinating, so a potential custody issue in future doesn't seem to be a concern.

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I see no need for an exemption. The exemption is something you submit to the school or daycare provider. I'm not sure who you'd even submit an exemption to if you're not using school or daycare.

If your family situation changes in the future, and daycare and/or school becomes needed, you can deal with the exemption at that time.

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It depends on the state. I'm in Iowa and vaccine records (or exemption) are required for homeschool students. It's dumb IMO.

I'm not sure about NY laws.

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I've personally had to battle a local hospital during an er visit, so I went online and printed out our state's one page waiver form. I keep blank copies here and fill them out as needed. For example, he saw a new doctor recently who I know is really mainstream. Beforehand, I filled it out and signed it. When we arrived, I had them photocopy and file away in their charts. I feel like it's just a simple form - better to be safe than sorry.

 

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Your child will likely be entered into the registry when his birth certificate is filed; I don't think that is optional.

I'd get some letters notarized and have them handy for the Dr. or ER visit.


Sample Religious Exemption Letter

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(We / I) {First and Last name(s)}, as the {(parent (s) / guardian(s)} of ______________________(name of newborn child) are exercising (our/my) rights under the US Constitution, PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, ARTICLE 21. CONTROL OF ACUTE COMMUNICABLE DISEASES,TITLE VI. POLIOMYELITIS AND OTHER DISEASES, NY CLS Pub Health § 2164 (2002), to receive Religious Exemption from Vaccination, ALL injections, prophylaxis, & testing due to our genuine and sincere religious beliefs which are contrary to the practices herein required.

The U.S. Supreme Court held in Frazee V. Illinois Dept. of Security, 489 U.S. 829, that a religious belief is subject to protection even though no religious group espouses such beliefs or the fact that the religious group to which the individual professes to belong may not advocate or require such belief. This ruling is also reflected in Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as amended Nov. 1, 1980; Part 1605.1-Guidelines on Discrimination Because of Religion.



Sincerely,

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"It should be a rule in all prophylactic work that no harm should ever be unnecessarily inflicted on a healthy person (Sir Graham Wilson, The Hazards of Immunization, 1967)."
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I have a similar letter with our state's religious exemption information on our computer, to print off as needed. We've never had to use it, but I wanted to have it prepared just in case of something weird happening. I wouldn't want to have to search around for the laws in an emergency situation.

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We never needed one, and dd was HSed all the way.
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You shouldn't need an exemption at all. If your child sees a pro-vax physician, you'll likely be strong-armed to sign a Refusal to Vaccinate form for the file (though I would refuse to do so, it isn't required by law).

Unfortunately, you can't really fly under the radar in this state. In NYS the vaccine registry is no longer optional, and if you are not vaccinating it is recorded there.

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I've personally had to battle a local hospital during an er visit, so I went online and printed out our state's one page waiver form. I keep blank copies here and fill them out as needed. For example, he saw a new doctor recently who I know is really mainstream. Beforehand, I filled it out and signed it. When we arrived, I had them photocopy and file away in their charts. I feel like it's just a simple form - better to be safe than sorry.
bens_mommy_2005 - where did you get the state waiver form? do you have a link? TIA!

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Maryland Immunization Waiver

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Every baptized Christian is, or should be, someone with an actual (disturbing) experience, ... a close encounter, with God; someone who, as a result, becomes a disturbing presence to others. - Fr. Anthony J. Gittins, A Presence That Disturbs
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This is for Michigan, but they have a great website. Check it out.

 

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