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If you stop a course of antibiotics once they are started then that just makes the bacteria stronger. Strep throat can really cause some major complications if left untreated.

that is what I'm concerned too...
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I'm so torn, I don't know what to do
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I'm so torn, U don't know what to do
If you haven't already, call your doctor and tell them what's going on. They can get you ds on a different antibiotic. If the rest of your family is fine with what you're taking, finish the medication.
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Check with your doctor. I agree that they will most likely prescribe another antibiotic. I am allergic to all of the -cillins but they always find something I can take. I would not stop at the three doses and give nothing else. With my DS the doctor looked at the rash and determined that it was not an allergic reaction and he was right.

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benedryl doesn't treat Strep, does it?

I have a concern. If I stop antibiotic now, after just 3 doses (instead of 5) that the strep will come back. And after we treated the entire family to avoid this very thing I'm really torn as far as what to do now...
The benedryl is to stop any allergic reaction to the abx, but your son will still need another abx for the strep. He is probably allergic to the cillians and will need something different. Your doctor might have you bring him back in to check the rash. I always have to go back in when I break out from an abx. He will have to have something to kick the strep, though, just something different.

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There are a couple strains of strep that can cause rheumatic fever; not all of them do. That's the only strain you actually NEED to treat with abx, and you can ask the doc to test for the strain. But abx can help relieve the discomfort of all strep.
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There are a couple strains of strep that can cause rheumatic fever; not all of them do. That's the only strain you actually NEED to treat with abx, and you can ask the doc to test for the strain. But abx can help relieve the discomfort of all strep.
I have wondered about this. I did a lot of research on strep last year, and I had a doctor tell me that the GAS strains that cause scarlet fever do not cause rheumatic fever. So I emailed 2 top strep researchers, and they both said, no it is not that clear cut, that strains that can cause scarlet fever can also be rheumatogenic. This is important information, because strep is so common, and I know that everyone on this thread has been in support of abx for strep, but abx are not always benign. My ds had significant gut effects that I am still working on healing a year later after only one course of abx for strep. And he has had no other abx ever in his life.

So, can you tell me how I could find out how to be tested for the particular strain, because that would be really helpful for people to know. If one could avoid abx by knowing that info, that would be great. Strep throat is actually a self-limiting illness, and in most cases it will clear on its own in 7-10 days. The only reason they give abx for it is because there is the rare complication of rheumatic fever, though that rarely happens in the US anymore, and some postulate that it is because the strains here have gotten weaker. I don't know about that, but it is true that incidences of rheumatic fever were already declining before the availability of abx for strep.

However, the abx he is receiving is only a 5-day abx, with a double dose on the first day, and he has already likely had four doses, since the first dose was probably a loading dose. So, I would call your doctor and ask him what to do at this point, given that he's already had so much of the abx, but not all. That particular antibiotic stays in your system for a longer period of time than the cillins, which is why it can be given for a shorter duration.
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There are a couple strains of strep that can cause rheumatic fever; not all of them do. That's the only strain you actually NEED to treat with abx, and you can ask the doc to test for the strain. But abx can help relieve the discomfort of all strep.
DD was strep A positive.
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We decided to continue the antibiotic while closely observing ds's rash/eczema. Fortunately it did NOT get worse after yesterday dose, it's actually a bit better now. Perhaps the rash was caused by the big Vitamin Cottage brand brownie (which had great ingredients, I must admit) which ds asked the day he broke out in the horrible rash (we were going to Vitamin Cottage anyway, so I bought it for him to make him feel better about taking the medicine; he ate it (all of it) right after taking the antibiotics). Or perhaps they gave his something in pre-school that day that triggered the rash and the eczema. So, we are good so far (knock on wood), just one dose left.

By the way, both of my kids still have this bad wet cough. Is it normal to still have it after 4 days of antibiotic (the last dose of the antibiotic is this evening)?

As far as me, after 3 days of antibiotic (dh and I started taking the medicine one day after the kids did) I still have a mild pain in my throat (just as much as I did before I started the antibiotic.
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As far as me, after 3 days of antibiotic (dh and I started taking the medicine one day after the kids did) I still have a mild pain in my throat (just as much as I did before I started the antibiotic.
I started taking penicillin last Thursday for my strep. I still had a very mild sore throat and pus on my tonsils on Saturday night. Sunday, the pus was gone and my throat was sore when I woke up. It got better throughout the day. Yesterday (Monday) I finally felt completely back to normal. So, it can take a while to clear completely.
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I started taking penicillin last Thursday for my strep. I still had a very mild sore throat and pus on my tonsils on Saturday night. Sunday, the pus was gone and my throat was sore when I woke up. It got better throughout the day. Yesterday (Monday) I finally felt completely back to normal. So, it can take a while to clear completely.

Good to know that. Thanks!
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DD was strep A positive.
But there are many thousands of strains of GAS.
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But there are many thousands of strains of GAS.
Right. And it's only a few serotypes that can cause rheumatic fever. I can't find the article I kept about this, but I'll keep looking for it.
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Right. And it's only a few serotypes that can cause rheumatic fever. I can't find the article I kept about this, but I'll keep looking for it.
Please do!! That is awesome, I would be so interested to know this. This is exactly what I was trying to find out, even tried emailing people who research strep, and I could not find this out. I think they just didn't want to tell me, oh yes, it's fine to not give abx, you know? Because then they'd be liable. Please let us know!!
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thought i would bump this and add this, but not sure if current tests that you'd get at your doctor's office specify M strains or not:

http://science.jrank.org/pages/5862/...tic-fever.html
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