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Hi mamas,

I'm pretty upset now. I took my kids to a doctor (MD, but a very holistic one). He run a quick strep test on my daughter. The doctor said it came back "very positive". The reason I took her to the doctor is because she has been very congested for the past few days having huge difficulty sleeping. My son went through the same thing a couple of days before my dd. He is still pretty congested as well. I have a sore throat as well.

Anyway, while the doctor is holistic, he still said that I need to start both kids on Zitmomac (not sure about the spelling, his handwriting is very unclear) ASAP. The reason he thought it was necessary is because sometimes strep can cause them to develop a dangerous condition (forgot how it is called, he explained that the body starts attacking its own tissue which can be heart, kidneys...or something like that).

He also said that antibiotics will help with dd's congestion.

I hate antibiotics and not really sure if I should give it to them (he said to treat both simultaneously because ds is likely has been having the same thing). What do you guys think? Would you give your kids antibiotics in this situation.

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Is he talking about scarlet fever, maybe? Both of kids have had it and I think that there is something about possible heart problems? I think that's more along the lines of rheumatic fever, though...

I always do antiobiotics with strep, even though I don't use them on everything.

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Is he talking about scarlet fever, maybe? Both of kids have had it and I think that there is something about possible heart problems? I think that's more along the lines of rheumatic fever, though...

I always do antiobiotics with strep, even though I don't use them on everything.

I think he was talking about rheumatic fever.
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Since you have sore throat and your son does, I think you should both be tested and take abx if it's strep. I agree you should all be treated at the same time so it's not passed back and forth. Strep can develop into scarlet fever and then rheumatic fever if untreated which can damage the heart.
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I too "hate" antibiotics -- but am so thankful we have them in the case of STREP. It is *absolutely* the time to use antibiotics. You do not want to let it go untreated. And yes, everyone treating it at the same time would be helpful. You could have the test done on you and your son, but please know that those tests are not definitive. A quick test can come back negative, but a culture can come back in a couple days positive. I was told the quick test is about 80% accurate. If you or your son have fever, white spots/patches in your throat, then I'd say antibiotics are definitely called for in this case.
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I too "hate" antibiotics -- but am so thankful we have them in the case of STREP. It is *absolutely* the time to use antibiotics. You do not want to let it go untreated.
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Although I would only give them to the person who actually tested positive for it, personally. People have varying levels of immunity and strep resistance, so it is possible to have a family member with strep but not come down with it yourself. The "rapid" test is not entirely accurate (you could have a false negative), but the 24-hour test is really accurate.

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I'd take the antibiotics for strep. My grandma suffer with heart problems for many, many years (and die of congestive heart failure) due to having rheumatic fever as a child. I'm taking antibiotics for the first time in 15 years, and my 7 year-old dd is taking them for the first time ever since we tested positive for strep throat this week. Within a day of starting the antibiotics, we were both feeling nearly 100% healthy. They work well when they're truly needed.
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Strep can cause painful joint inflammation, in addition to rheumatic fever. I'd definitely use antibiotics for strep. You can take probiotics along with it to help re-populate your gut after the abx.
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I would say use the abx. The one time I had strep (in 2005) I was miserable (understatement) and the abx worked very quickly. When ds started getting sick two days later I took him in for the test right away. Strep is nothing to play around with after a positive test and it can be a living nightmare for the person who has it.
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I would say use the abx. The one time I had strep (in 2005) I was miserable (understatement) and the abx worked very quickly. When ds started getting sick two days later I took him in for the test right away. Strep is nothing to play around with after a positive test and it can be a living nightmare for the person who has it.
I agree. I have step right now and it is indeed a living nightmare. Seriously, I am in hell right now. I am so miserable. I have had three does of abx so far, and the doctor said I might not feel better until after the 4th. I am counting down the hours. I can't sleep, I can't breath, I can't swallow. I ended up at Urgent Care tonight getting IV fluids. So yes, give the abx for strep.

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I will echo the others. Start the antibiotics, and get everyone else at home tested for strep as well, because you will keep passing it back and forth if you don't. I wouldn't mess with strep.
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I agree. This is an instance in which one would take the abx.

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Get the antibiotics ASAP. Strep gets bad quick and you don't want your kids being that miserable. I still remember sitting on the couch and crying because it hurt so bad to swallow. I was spitting into a towel for 2 days because I couldn't swallow. I was 6 years old and it felt like torture. Please don't let your kids go through that.

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I agree. Treat it NOW.
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Thank you, mamas. We started the whole family (since we are all sick by now with the same thing most likely) on antibiotics . Taking tons of probiotics and hoping for the best.
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It's been through our house already, you've got my sympathy.

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Make sure you wait at least 6 hours between antibiotics and probiotics.
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And liquids, liquids, liquids! I refused to drink and ended up with an IV

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I've had tons of experience with strep. One year I got it 6 times, it just kept cycling around the schools & in my family. Definitely take the antibiotics. Once the strep becomes bad enough to impede swallowing, it's too far gone to treat holistically. It will just keep getting worse. I remember once waiting so long before I got abx that I started hallucinating from the fever & pain. Not fun.

If I start getting that familiar tingle in the back of my throat, I eat tons of citrus and down lots of Emergen-C. There's also a sage treatment that consists of steeping a cup of fresh sage in 4 cups of boiled (as in was boiling & taken off the heat) water for 30 min. Drink 1/4c to 1/2 c 3 times a day. It is horrific tasting (like drinking pine sap) but it works REALLY well. If you're bf, I don't recommend it, since it will dry up your milk really quick.

Also, I've found, through countless trials, that to keep hydrating, just keep sipping water. The first swallow is always the worst. Hot liquids feel better too, so lots of hot cups of broth is good.

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We are all taking Azithromicin.

My son seem to have an allergic reaction to the antibiotic . He broke out in this horribly red rush (kind of like cherry color) on his hips, butt and some on his stomach. Also few hours after he got the medicine yesterday he was complaining about a stomach ache. It was his third day. I am going to call the doctor today and will ask if I should stop giving him the antibiotic.

The antibiotic does not seem to help me at all, my throat that was almost fine at the day I started the medicine hurts much more today. I’ve been having mild headaches soon after taking the antibiotic. DH and DD seem to be doing fine.

The whole thing is just depresing...
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I think your doctor was talking about necrotizing fasciitis which is caused by the Group A strep infection. This happened to a friend of mine. She had strep throat last winter and it got in body and she ended up on life support. They didn't think she was going to make it. Her heart was damaged and her kidneys shut down. After months in the hospital and rehab she recovered but she has long term side effects - all from strep. She was young and led a very healthy lifestyle which is probably why she survived. Take home message is strep is nothing to mess around with. Hope you are feeling better soon.

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My advice - stop the antibiotic immediately for your DS and give him benedryl around the clock until the rash clears up. My DS had an allergic reaction to amoxicillin and the doc said the reaction can continue to build over time and can turn anaphylactic at any time. Yikes!

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My advice - stop the antibiotic immediately for your DS and give him benedryl around the clock until the rash clears up. My DS had an allergic reaction to amoxicillin and the doc said the reaction can continue to build over time and can turn anaphylactic at any time. Yikes!
Thank you for the support. I was just about to call the doctor to tell him about the reaction and inform him that I'm going to stop the medicine with DS.
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perhaps he's allergic to PCN- I have to take a non penicillin when I have infections.

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We are all taking Azithromicin.

My son seem to have an allergic reaction to the antibiotic . He broke out in this horribly red rush (kind of like cherry color) on his hips, butt and some on his stomach. Also few hours after he got the medicine yesterday he was complaining about a stomach ache. It was his third day. I am going to call the doctor today and will ask if I should stop giving him the antibiotic. (
You can get a rash with an antibiotic without it being an allergic reaction. This happened with my son. He got an amoxicillin rash but I reluctantly kept giving him the antibiotic and the rash cleared up.

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I would stop the antibiotic and go with the benedryl. I am allergic to two kinds of ABX and they both cause red rashes.

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If he tested positive for strep, the doctor will most likely tell you to stop giving THAT abx and write a prescription for a different one. He still needs something and I doubt 3 doses did anything but make the bacteria stronger.

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I would stop the antibiotic and go with the benedryl. I am allergic to two kinds of ABX and they both cause red rashes.
benedryl doesn't treat Strep, does it?

I have a concern. If I stop antibiotic now, after just 3 doses (instead of 5) that the strep will come back. And after we treated the entire family to avoid this very thing I'm really torn as far as what to do now...
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If you stop a course of antibiotics once they are started then that just makes the bacteria stronger. Strep throat can really cause some major complications if left untreated.

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