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#1 of 33 Old 01-24-2009, 07:47 PM - Thread Starter
 
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Yesterday in the late afternoon my dd (6 1/2 years old) was rollerskating and fell seated. The fall was very hard but she did not cry or seem severely affected. Later in the evening she complained it hurt to bend and run but she was walking and talking and functioning fully otherwise. She did not have and does not have a bruise bump or any physical sign of the fall so I figured it was just some pain from the fall but no big deal. I am still unsure the rest of her current symptoms are related to the fall. Btw she never hit her head or back just her bum. We went to Costco and came home she bathed and never complained or asked to be seated in the cart etc just when she had to bend to pick up something and when she ran she said it hurt.
Today she woke up with a severe headache (related?) she complained the headache is worse when she stands and walks. When she is lying down her headache is still there but it is less painful. It is hard for her to tell me how the headache feels she is unable to describe whether it is dull, sharp or throbbing. At that point I called the DR who said Children's Advil and if she continued or got worse to go to the emergency room for x-rays. I am very natural and reluctant to use advil so I have been giving her Herbs for Kids Temp-assure and Traumeel. However later in the afternoon I touched her and she felt extremely hot. Her temp has been and is 103.7 the highest she has ever had. She has only had a high fever once before and it was not accompanied by the other symptoms. Because DR already said x-rays and emergency room I called a naturopath to see if he could give me alternatives. The Naturopath seemed ultra conservative and was an alarmist stating I needed to get to the ER right away to get x-rays. He said he does think the fever is related to the physical trauma. I am unsure his advice is actually true or just being careful so he does not get sued if something happened.
I am not happy with the idea of exposing my dd to radioactivity if it is not absolutely necessary. So how can I know I absolutely need to go to the emergency room? Anyone educated in natural medicine and know how serious these symptoms are. Again the symptoms are:
Lower back pain when she bends or runs which has improved since last nigth
Headache made worse when she stands or walks, by light and certain head movements
Dizziness when she stands and walks
Fever of 103.7
Tired
So far I have given her 2 doses of Herbs for kids Temp-Assure
2 doses Traumeel
1 dose Echinacea
Please any toughts and advice is much appreciated. I don't want anything to happen to my dd because I did not act in time but I don't want to go to the ER unnecessarily and expose her to all those risks. If you have natural remedies that would be helpful to keep her healing and from getting worse that would be great. Also any home tests to know or rule out severe conditions like meningitis or concussion would be helpful.
Hope this made sense I am a bit flustered from worrying.

Thanks
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the high temp and headache made worse by certain head movements and photophobia would be alarming to me.
I would definitely seek out some imaging (xray, CT) because of the fall and associated pain.
My cousin fell while climbing out of a deer stand (about 2 foot fall), flat on his butt and caused an injury to his spinal column in which the spinal fluid leaked, causing a severe headache and fever (as high as your daughter's). Meningitis was first suspected. Definitely worth evaluating further.
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i agree with the pp, you need to take your daughter to an emergency room or urgent care centre. i believe that you are worried and you should trust your instinct.
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There may be two completely different things going on in her body but it might be a wise idea to take her to the ER and at least get an expert opinion.

You can still decide for yourself as to what tests should be run.

If they offer you the tetanus shot, abx, or pain medication, you know they are pretty sure it is not related to the injury.
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The impact of her fall could certainly have traveled up her spine which is what absorbed the trauma and may have resulted in compression.

Please take her to the ER - her symptoms do not strike me as minimal.
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A spinal fluid leak was my first thought when reading the OP. Of course it could be a fleeting virus that just happens to be on the heals of the fall but I wouldn't want to chance it. I can understand not wanting to over-react and submit your already uncomfortable child to being poked, prodded, x-rayed, etc. But given the symptoms I think and ER trip is warrented.

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The impact of her fall could certainly have traveled up her spine which is what absorbed the trauma and may have resulted in compression.

Please take her to the ER - her symptoms do not strike me as minimal.
This is what I was thinking. I would take her to the er to be on the safe side.

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I would get her to the children's hospital ER ASAP. Those were the exact same symptoms that I had with my spinal headache, mine was caused by botched spinal anesthesia but the results were the same as if it were blunt trauma, I suffered with severe pain for More than two years and have only recently started to feel better.
I was in a very bad place from the pain for a long time and the worst was that the start of the pain was not immediate after the spinal, it took almost 24 hours for the leak to become apparant.
Please update is with news, I will be thinking of you and your dd
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I'm just a lurker here but thought I should say something here. I hope that the lack of response by the original poster means you've brought your daughter to the hospital. As parents, we all try to do the best for our children however, don't take the advice from strangers over doctors who you can actually verify their credentials. I don't think this is minor, and does require a visit to the ER. So if you haven't gone yet, and if you are willing to take a stranger's advice, then I strongly urge that you do bring her in. I know you would much rather go all natural however you can't test for meningitis at home or test for fractures, neither can you diagnose your daughter without proper testing and medical knowledge which a hospital could do, unless you're a doctor yourself?

I strongly urge you to take both of these doctors advice. They each approach medicine differently, but have given you the exact same advice.

As a side note, your daughter will have been exposed to the same amount of radiation from an xray within a few weeks to about 2 months from background radiation as she will be exposed to from the x ray itself. Depending on what they xray, some don't require as much radiation, there is also incredibly limited risk if your daughter is only exposed to x rays for her first time, and my guess is unless it is something absolutely serious she won't be having to take x rays again for a long time, which is fine. However, her fever combined with the headache directly after her fall is a major cause for concern.
Don't brush it off because you think a doctor is afraid you'll sue. They have malpractice insurance for a reason.
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hoping your little girl is ok...

I feel the same way about unnecessary medical junk, but there are certain areas where western medicine shines, and this sounds like one of those times...

do let us know how she's doing when you can...

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Waiting for an update and hoping everything is okay...

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Sending good thoughts and hope your daughter is ok. Hope you got her to the ER/hospital to get checked out.:

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What is going on? Hope everything is alright.
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Is she doing ok? I hope you'll update her condition.

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Yeah, the xray seems worth it in this situation. I know it's confusing when faced with all those decisions. It seems like you must have gone. Sending you good thoughts, and healthy healing to your little girl... I'm another one who will check back to hear any updates...

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I'm also wondering how things are going.... When you have time, we'd love an update.

Sending and : to you and your dd.
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I have grown a great deal on this site in terms of natural health. My family is in a better place because of it.
there are a couple of topics that I have found that even here people worry about and suggest going a more medical route, spinal health and menagitis. Also, many have concerns about strep, and you will often have suggestions about abx for that. Maybe it is still a cultural medical response, or maybe there is real concerns about the above. I do know that many of my natural health books say to take the two very seriously.

I am glad your daughter is doing well.
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Personally, I don't take western medicine's advice over a naturopath, but it seemed to me that SOMEONE needed to actually have a look at her and see if the high fever and pain she was experiencing was from a serious spinal injury or if she had an unrelated illness. Often, time is of the essence with these things, and waiting until the next day can end up being deadly if we misjudge. I assumed that the ER was your only option to have SOMEONE check her out, but monitoring her all night and going to a clinic you felt more comfortable with early in the morning seems to have worked out well for you, so that's great. Some people would not have been comfortable waiting to have her looked over, which is why the recommendations for the ER were happening -- it sounded to me like that was your only option for immediate medical attention, and from the symptoms you described, it seemed to ME that immediate medical attention (from a doctor, a naturopath, a shaman, whoever you like) was a good idea. As it turned out, your mama instinct was telling you it was ok to wait, but from the sound of your post, if it had been me, I wouldn't have worried *in this case* about the potential damage from x-rays, though she wouldn't have ended up with them anyway, as a quick ear and throat check would have determined the problem anyway... Clearly, you could tell that she could wait until morning, and I'm glad you were right! I've had one incredibly painful fever in my life, and it's no fun!! Hope she feels better soon!!!

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I'm glad you were right and that your daughter is ok!

I am not one to run to the doc for everything either. I can count on one hand the number of times I've taken my kids in and I've been a parent for ten years and a member of MDC for 7(ish) years. But in that case, I would certainly have taken my child in to the ER. It's a risk/benefit analysis for me. Possible discomfort, slight risk from x-rays, and some poking and prodding and maybe dealing with pushy or irritating HCPs at the hospital would not have outweighed the very real and extreme risk of a spinal leak or compound fracture. It's just not a risk I'd be willing to take.

Anyway, this ended up for the best. I'm glad she's well
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I was thinking a bit more about this. You said in your OP that your MD advised " Children's Advil and if she continued or got worse to go to the emergency room for x-rays." which is interesting because it is actually pretty laid back compared even to the responses here. So we're all still not just taking the MD's advice! Your MD essentially advised Watchful Waiting and I maintain that this is a great course of action much of the time...but usually when there is more information--especially when the chance is pretty high that there could be some serious repercussions to not acting quickly. Anyway, I don't mean to belabour this point any more than necessary but I felt I had to get that out.
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I am total non-vaxing naturo organic vegetarian everything and I would have had her at the ER the minute she started complaining about the pain in her back.

sorry - but sometime you should not wait - x-rays are a godsend when they are needed and your child is too young to fool around with this.
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I'm so glad she's ok!
Don't be disappointed please in the responses here.

I think the reaction was because some of the signs your daughter had were consistent with things like spinal leaks and meningitis. http://www.meningitis-angels.org/ This site is full of people who thought their children had the flu and even those who were told that and they died within hours of meningitis. Look at the meningitis symptoms and I think you'll see why people responded the way they did to your post. They were reading and could only go by that..they weren't there with mommy instinct. I think the symptoms she was showing were consistent with something serious and time mattered with that. So hence the advice. Gitti who posted..if you look back on her posts...well, I've never seen her advise ER or anything even close! She's about as natural, let nature handle it with support as you can get. So I think it was the nature of the symptoms that had people thinking this was a case where traditional medical technology was called for.

But in other things I think you'll get lots of natural alternatives. And I'm so, so glad that you're daughter is doing well! I was worried. Moms do seem to know best. In my experience when things were serious and we needed to get to an ER I knew it my gut before we even got to the crisis point.

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Crunchy/alternative/natural does not equal completely eschewing mainstream medicine. It is knowing when there is a time and a place for it.

I take care of 99% of my own health stuff via alternative medicine, herbs, acupuncture, chiropractic, etc. But when I suspected that I broke my foot after a relatively minor fall, you bet I went to the ER ASAP, and was grateful for the x-ray imaging that showed the 4 fractures in my foot, which happened after I fell awkwardly from a small 5 inch high step.

It is great to hear that your daughter is recovering well, but her symptoms as you had described them before were alarming, and threw up huge red flags. She was exhibiting neurological symptoms (postural headache) after a probable trauma to her spinal cord, ruling out a dural tear or compression fracture of the vertebra would have been first and foremost on my mind. If that opinion is "Babycenter material", then guilty as charged.
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I completely agree with kidspiration. I feel sad that I took the time to post what I felt was a very appropriate response given the symptoms that you gave us, which was all we had to go on, and all I get in return is a slap on the wrist that I am not crunchy enough. Pity.
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I think the reaction was because some of the signs your daughter had were consistent with things like spinal leaks and meningitis. http://www.meningitis-angels.org/ This site is full of people who thought their children had the flu and even those who were told that and they died within hours of meningitis. Look at the meningitis symptoms and I think you'll see why people responded the way they did to your post. They were reading and could only go by that..they weren't there with mommy instinct. I think the symptoms she was showing were consistent with something serious and time mattered with that. So hence the advice. Gitti who posted..if you look back on her posts...well, I've never seen her advise ER or anything even close! She's about as natural, let nature handle it with support as you can get. So I think it was the nature of the symptoms that had people thinking this was a case where traditional medical technology was called for.
Absolutely agree 100%, especially with what Gitti suggested. I'm also very familiar with her posts and as is stated in the quote above - she's a natural healer kinda mama

In addition, my best friend is a N.M.D. and I read her this post and she agreed that in this particular situation an er or urgent care center is what she would have suggested. I also spoke with one of my chiropractor friends and he too said in this situation given all the facts an x-ray would be warrented. In fact, a lot of chiros I know won't even adjust you without an initial x-ray, and this is from some very un-allopathic practitioners. I am extremely glad your DD is ok , but I think given the facts from your original post that many of the mamas that responded did and still would err on the side of caution given the circumstances.

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[QUOTE=kidspiration;13074285]Crunchy/alternative/natural does not equal completely eschewing mainstream medicine. It is knowing when there is a time and a place for it.

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I am less alternative that most of you here. Hey I admit it. But you have to find a balance.

eta - however the more I come here the more I look for alternatives. I take this into consideration.

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I'm glad your DD is okay.

Also, in addition to what everyone else had said about using mainstream medicine when appropriate, I think that it would have been different if you had said, even in a later post, that you had found a clinic you were comfortable with and should you wait and watch until the morning or go to the ER immediately.

But most importantly, this is the internet. It is not a HCP nor a help line. It is unreasonable to expect anyone to be able to help accurately if they cannot examine the person nor ask for more information. If you ask for advice from other moms and don't want to take it, so be it. But to complain when people took time out of their lives to help you with the information that they had at hand seems rather ungrateful.

Once again, I'm glad that your DD is okay and that it was nothing serious. I hope her blood test comes back okay and you don't need to go the antibiotic route. Your ped sounds pretty cool if he did that to make sure antibiotics were in fact, needed.
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There appears to be slight misunderstanding whether from not reading fully or my writing but certainly something has been misunderstood. While yes I stated I was surprised by no non-traditional posts giving me recommendations or ways to rule out certain major things from home as I had asked my comments at the end of the paragraph where directly about a certain post which revered DR's not about all posts. Like I said that particular post got to me because I do not see Dr's as Gods of Superior Knowledge. I do not eschew all western medicine but I do not bow to Dr's or believe their credentials make them automatically more knowledgeable. Case in point recently there were found to be hundreds of Dr's in my State who had not passed their exam and were attending with fraudulent licenses not to mention qualified Dr's that give erroneous advice be it because of mediocrity or malice. I am sorry if that offends you. However like all of you I have a right to post as I think and feel.
The concern for dd, which I thanked everyone for, has been very nice. I completely understand peoples recommendations based on the information given and the common concern for welfare when they know the seriousness of meningitis or spinal leak.
As for the poster that expressed wishing she never posted because of my point of view I also wish I had never posted in the first place now. While I appreciate the concern I had no intention of what the thread has become. However I cannot erase the thread or don't know how so it is what it is. Everyone has a right to express themselves freely at least here and for now.
I am sorry my opinion of Dr's and that particular post so offends everyone but if you thought my comment was about every post in this thread previous to the update then you were mistaken.
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Yup I did only recently register, you're right. As I said, am only a lurker. I don't like to post here.

I responded because it seemed like you only wanted natural options when sometimes, that may not always be the answer. As many have already responded, sometimes, the benefits outweigh the risks. I'm happy your daughter is ok, however, don't be upset if you went looking for something and it wasn't there. Many of us recommended the same as those doctors based on the facts you provided in your orignal post. We're only going based on what you're saying, and those facts seemed very scary to me, to say the least. So, if you're upset the other mothers here didn't provide you with 'natural' remedies... that's unfortunate. They were simply looking out for your daughter, and you asked for the advice. I think we all had the same idea when reading your original post.

Personally, I'm not sure what natural remedies could help meningitis or a spinal leak and this is specifically what you were looking for.. sometimes western medicine is required. I understand you prefer other methods, however, sometimes it is necessary as in the case of getting an xray. No eastern medicine can look at bones and determine if there's a fracture or a leak, nor can it determine if your child has a very life threatning infection.

I'm sorry if you felt my post 'got your goat'. Not my intent. Simply stating a few things that I felt warranted to be highlighted.

I do want to reassure you, if you have extreme doubts about xrays, a quick search should alleviate your concerns about the amount of actual radiation your child will face, especially consiering she will very rarely have them done. As an example, a hand xray is equivelent to the amount of background radiation (this is radiation she will face in her day-to-day life) of just a few days. I understand wanting to keep your child free of anything unnatural, and as I said it's completely fine. I think many of us just felt her symptoms warranted the benefits of a visit to the ER room and xrays then just waiting it out. Personally, my nerves woudln't have been able to handle it wondering what could possibly be happening with my child.

This is all just our own opinions so don't take it as personal attacks, just opinions. And if none of us provide you with the answer you'd like, then there's no reason to be upset as we're all just basing our responses on what you have provided us with.

Also, I made mention of doctor's credentials since I've seen far too many times that people take other's words for gold online when you really don't know where their information/knowledge is coming from.. and it's a safer bet to discuss these issues with a known physician (western/eastern) then a complete stranger. It appeared to me that you wanted someone here to give you the magic cure and hoped you would have been able to discern between the possible misinformation out there. I wasn't stating to necessarily take a GP's word either, however the fact that even the naturopath showed increasing concern for your daughter is why I decided to speak up.

Others have said what I've thought in such a nicer neat little package. This is the best way I can convey to you why I answered as I did. You asked a very specific question, and we provided very specific answers. If you didn't like the answers, it's easy to move on. Don't frown upon us for not giving you what you wanted.

I personally know how uncomfortable it is to have a fever as high as hers and her fever not coming down was a huge concern. I was in hospital with mine and they wouldn't release me until it went down. Low grade fevers are good to help rid the body of infection, high fevers such as hers are a huge red flag combined with the headache.. especially after the fall she had. So I apologize if my advice was a bit too one sided for you, but I was basing my opinion on what you provided.

After all that, I will reiderate again.. I am happy your daughter is doing ok and hope she's back to normal quickly.
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