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Hi everyone...I'm doing a search online to find out remedies/herbs for both migraines and to increase fertility. I'm TTC (5 months in) after a cesarean (7/07). I also have endometriosis and excruciating periods.

Here's the list I've gotten so far...I'd really appreciate some more knowledgeable opinions as I am reluctant to put my faith 100% in a google search:

green tea (for fertility)
coenzyme q10
riboflavin
magnesium
butterbur
peppermint
lavender
rosemary
passionflower
ginkgo
feverfew
dong quai
cayenne

Please keep in mind vitamins make me puke I have a really sensitive stomach, especially to fish oil and zinc. I don't want to go spending a fortune on supplements if they're not going to work

I'm getting desperate...every time I get into a fertile patch, I feel like crud because of my stupid headaches and that doesn't make me want to BD at all!!

TIA :

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From the list you gave stay away from Dong Quai and Cayenne. Dong Quai should not be taken while TTC as it can cause contractions. Cayenne is used in detoxing and you should use it before TTC but not while. The rest, I'm not sure about.
I would use Red Raspberry leaf and Vitex (chasteberry). For me, migraines are often triggered by hormones. I'd try to stabilize your hormone levels with these herbs and see what happens. It sounds like yours might be the same. I will warn you the RRL tastes fine as a tea, but the Vitex will make you puke. Though not as potent this way, I suggest taking it in gelcap. Both herbs are relatively inexpensive.

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What's TTC, BD, and TIA? Is there somewhere I can go to in order to learn these abbreviations??
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Hi everyone...I'm doing a search online to find out remedies/herbs for both migraines and to increase fertility. I'm TTC (5 months in) after a cesarean (7/07). I also have endometriosis and excruciating periods.

Here's the list I've gotten so far...I'd really appreciate some more knowledgeable opinions as I am reluctant to put my faith 100% in a google search:

green tea (for fertility)
coenzyme q10
riboflavin
magnesium
butterbur
peppermint
lavender
rosemary
passionflower
ginkgo
feverfew
dong quai
cayenne

Please keep in mind vitamins make me puke I have a really sensitive stomach, especially to fish oil and zinc. I don't want to go spending a fortune on supplements if they're not going to work

I'm getting desperate...every time I get into a fertile patch, I feel like crud because of my stupid headaches and that doesn't make me want to BD at all!!

TIA :
Explain which herbs for which (ttc or migranes) I have both and am also curious. . .

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Well, I haven't had experience with all of your symptoms, magnesium should be a good bet. It helps with headaches, plays a crucial role in hundreds of enzyme processes that would help balance your hormones, and is great for acute and chronic aches and pains, especially menstrual cramps. I use Natural Calm magnesium citrate, iherb and vitacost have good prices.

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Well, I haven't had experience with all of your symptoms, magnesium should be a good bet. It helps with headaches, plays a crucial role in hundreds of enzyme processes that would help balance your hormones, and is great for acute and chronic aches and pains, especially menstrual cramps. I use Natural Calm magnesium citrate, iherb and vitacost have good prices.
Okay... I do take a cal/mag supplement, perhaps I should change brands when this one runs out (it's a co-op brand) and get something from Natural Calm, come to think of it while I type this I think I've tried Natural Calm, does it come in a packet similar to Emergen- C? Does Mag help with TTC? Currently I'm taking:

~Vitex
~Prenatel
~Folic acid
~B-complex
~Fish Oil
~Cal/mag
~Vit. E
~Acidophilis

I *Think* that's it (it's early) I'm thinking about adding vit. D, and perhaps PABA. Anything else I'm missing/should add?

I *try* to eat mostly trad foods, though it varies, sometime I lean more to vegetarianism, though lately I'm in a food funk and have been consuming vast quatities of crap-laiden crap I'm also trying to gain wieght for ttc, and I'm pretty convinced that I just had a chemical pregnany last month + my baby is only 7.5 months, so I think I just need to add to my reseves I just have baby lust BAD and want another smooshy-wooshy-baby-waby

Okay anyways I'm rambling (as usual) I'll stop now!!!

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What's TTC, BD, and TIA? Is there somewhere I can go to in order to learn these abbreviations??
TTC = Trying To Conceive
BD = Baby Dance
TIA = Thanks in Advance


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Thanks everyone for all the info!! I feel much more informed now :

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The mag in your cal/mag will help with calcium absorption, but you need to take mag separately also to get the most benefit from it. Most people take their cal/mag in the morning and mag only at night. Natural Calm does come in little packets like Emergen-C and in plastic tubs. I don't know if it helps specifically in TTC, but I thought I'd mention it since it helps with your other specific concerns and overall health.

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The mag in your cal/mag will help with calcium absorption, but you need to take mag separately also to get the most benefit from it. Most people take their cal/mag in the morning and mag only at night. Natural Calm does come in little packets like Emergen-C and in plastic tubs. I don't know if it helps specifically in TTC, but I thought I'd mention it since it helps with your other specific concerns and overall health.


Good to know

Also OP: I heard (I think Susan Weed) that one who is ttc avoid rosemary, basil, ginger, flax seed (and possibly more that I'm not thinking of right now) should avoid, these have been known to be abortion stimulators.

And for my migranes/headaches it helps to get enough sleep, keep my stress levels down, drinkingenough water and getting in my 10 cups of (just kidding it's more like 1 or 2)!! HTH!!

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I've had migraines for almost twenty years. Before ttcing I had to go off all meds (topomax, midrin, flonase, and allegra) that helped with my migraines. That's when I discovered the beauty of acupuncture. Not only did acupuncture help me with migraines it also helped me conceive easily Neti pots help, too

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For me it helped my migraines tremendously to take magnesium and vitamin B. I seem to have a severe magnesium deficiency, so I needed to take it by itself, not with any calcium. The book "What Your Doctor Won't Tell you About Migraines" was extremely helpful.

As far as not being in the mood with a migraine, I had read that BDing actually helps relieve migraines. I was reluctant but tried it. It does actually help!
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As mentioned already, vitex (chaste Berry) is good for balancing hormones and ttc.
Black cohosh would be helpful also as it is a nerve tonic and balances reproductive systems etc.
Siberian ginseng (eleuthro) helps to maintain healthy blood flow to the brain and peripherals, including the female reproductive organs so that would be a good one to use for both purposes.
Native Remedies makes herbal fertilty drops that I think has vitex, cohosh and siberian ginseng.
Red clover is another really popular herb for boosting fertility.
Good luck!
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Magnesium deficiency is common in America. It is associated with migraines, photosensitivity and sound sensitivity.

http://www.ctds.info/magnesium-migraine.html
http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates...Article&ID=541
http://www.ctds.info/noise-sensitivity.html
http://www.mgwater.com/migraine.shtml
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chri...raine_link.htm
http://hubpages.com/hub/Migraines-Li...ium-Deficiency
http://www.fgb.com.au/Natural%20Rem%...Deficiency.htm

We use Natural Calm. http://www.calmnatural.com/product/18340500001

Natural alternatives for migraine relief:
http://www.natural-migraine-alternatives.com/
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/medicine/mi...natural-cures/
http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/head...a/Migraine.htm
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/alt...ne-relief.html

Acute homeopathy for migraines. Match the symptoms. This is only bandaid relief, deeper curative benefits are gained from classical homeopathy.
http://www.truestarhealth.com/Notes/2242005.html
http://www.1-800homeopathy.com/enews...eheadache.html
http://www.peacehealth.org/KBASE/cam/hn-2242005.htm
http://www.hpathy.com/DISEASES/heada...tment-cure.asp
http://healing.about.com/od/homeopat...o_headache.htm



From all of my reading, difficulty conceiving is associated with food folate deficiency and the MTHFR gene in many mamas. Migraines are also associated with folate deficiency and hormonal imbalances.

Here is an excellent explanation about MTHFR and pregnancy: http://lifebalanceinfertilitycoach.w...f-miscarriage/

Have you read in the Adrenal Fatigue or Thyroid threads. The long and short of it is that as our hormones change, the other hormones are interconnected and are affected. Saliva testing for thyroid, progesterone, testosterone, estrogen and cortisol are done over the course of the day. Stress, or alterations in nutrients could effect each of these. Same with detox, toxin exposures, pregnancy, diet, etc.


I have had endometriosis which is associated with painful menstrual cycles. Which I've learned is associated with hormonal imbalances, which are associated with gut dysbiosis. So, I'd suggest reading more about gut healing: Where to start? Help 101

There are specific nutrients which are related to hormonal balance. Have you had saliva testing done? There is commonly an association between androgen levels and estrogen levels. Both can be elevated. Read on the iodine thread also about the relation to thyroid receptors being blocked by bromides also. The hormones are all interrelated. My understanding is that all 5 hormones need to be saliva tested: thyroid, progesterone, testosterone, estrogen and cortisol, multiple times during the day.

This is my Cliff's Notes to thyroid stuff: http://www.mothering.com/discussions...&postcount=130

Also, consider researching PCOS issues and the related hormonal imbalances: http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d#post13936257

Adrenal fatigue is also interconnected with stress, cortisol exhaustion, and thyroid levels.

Check out the Thyroid Thread: http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=493320

And the Adrenal Fatigue Thread: http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=685848

The Iodine Thread: http://www.mothering.com/discussions...=iodine+thread


Much easier to address these nutrient issues before trying to grow and feed a baby from a depleted mama. Glad you are seeking information proactively!



HTH, Pat


P. S. I'd focus on whole food probiotics for hormone, nutrient, gut health.

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Ok, so I read through this very long thread - thank you all!! :
The links are great, the advice priceless :

My list is as follows -
Red Raspberry Leaf & Vitex (chasteberry) for hormone stabilization
Magnesium + Calcium combo to help absorb magnesium
Magnesium on its own for migraines
Folic acid - for baby
Vitamin B
Black Cohosh
Siberian Ginseng

I'll let you all know how I do...thanks again so much!!

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Actually, you want food folate, rather than folic acid for optimal benefits. It is called 5-MTHF. Here is one brand. http://www.nutritionsurplus.com/inde...tid/41319.html


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Actually, you want food folate, rather than folic acid for optimal benefits. It is called 5-MTHF. Here is one brand. http://www.nutritionsurplus.com/inde...tid/41319.html


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Ok, so I read through this very long thread - thank you all!! :
The links are great, the advice priceless :

My list is as follows -
Red Raspberry Leaf & Vitex (chasteberry) for hormone stabilization
Magnesium + Calcium combo to help absorb magnesium
Magnesium on its own for migraines
Folic acid - for baby
Vitamin B
Black Cohosh
Siberian Ginseng

I'll let you all know how I do...thanks again so much!!
Please mama, be careful with Black Cohosh. Use it while TTC, but at first signs of pregnancy - stop it. It is known to induce labor and could possibly cause miscarriage. It is what my midwife gave me when my water broke and was that way for 24 hours without consistent labor and it worked in no time flat. Blue Cohosh is used for the same thing. Some women react more strongly to one over the other to induce labor. I took both cohoshes. The rest on the list sounds great. I was on much of this list to maintain health while TTC and during pregnancy.

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Please mama, be careful with Black Cohosh. Use it while TTC, but at first signs of pregnancy - stop it. It is known to induce labor and could possibly cause miscarriage. It is what my midwife gave me when my water broke and was that way for 24 hours without consistent labor and it worked in no time flat. Blue Cohosh is used for the same thing. Some women react more strongly to one over the other to induce labor. I took both cohoshes. The rest on the list sounds great. I was on much of this list to maintain health while TTC and during pregnancy.
Ooh! Thanks for that. I won't do that one. I'm presently waiting to test (5 more days!! and would hate to jeopardize anything. Thanks again mama

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