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Hi mamas,
I am looking for ways to lessen my mercury load while I still have amalgams:
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...7#post14534627
and I've read thru a bazillion threads in these forums looking for info.
One thing ppl have suggested is Bentonite Clay. But I haven't seen any descriptions of usage - like what was it like?
I'm thinking I will try this, but am mostly wondering if it will mess with my gut flora or nutrient uptake?
I'd love to hear from anyone who has experience with taking this.
Also, I was thinking of ordering this one:
http://www.vitacost.com/Yerba-Prima-...entonite-Detox
mostly b/c I have to place a vitacost order anyway - does it look like an okay clay to use?
TIA!
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I've never used Yerba-Prima, but I've used Living Clay (http://www.livingclayco.com) for years and I love it! It doesn't mess with gut flora or good nutrients at all. It works by attracting positively charged ions (viruses, metals, toxins, etc.), binding with them, and removing them from your body. Bentonite clay is truly amazing. Great stuff for both internal and external use.
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I mostly read good stuff about consuming pascalite clay (pascalite.com). We bought some, just haven't used it yet though, it was actually mostly for DH and he hasn't tried it yet.
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It is also great for upset stomach or stomach flu. We use it every so often just to get rid of any metals that we get via food or environment. It tastes great in a drink or just plain water. I actually love it. It makes me feel so earthy.
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Thanks a lot for the responses.
I'm looking forward to trying it.
CLM, which clay did you buy from them?
Powder?
TanyaLopez Doyou recall how you ordered from pascalite.com? You can't order on the site - did you call? Their clay does look good, but I don't feel comfortable giving my cc info in an email.

Gitti, what clay do you use?

Thanks again so much.
oh, and for anyone reading here who wants more info about clay, I found this link in the chelating forum:
http://www.aboutclay.com/clay_sources.htm

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Yes, I buy the powder and mix it myself. It's more economical that way.
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Sandy, I ordered via email, but they are slow, at least they were this past spring, maybe it's a better turn-around time now.
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Thanks so much.
I'm really looking forward to seeing if it makes a difference. It's just nice to do something to lesson the toxicity.
I've been doing milk thistle also and hopefully it is beneficial. I am still trying to grok the whole detox pathways stuff.. it's such a challenge for a fogged-in brain such as mine. As far as I can tell milk thistle is okay.
Thanks again.
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I take pascalite internally and I have metal fillings and am breastfeeding. I called them on the phone to order and it took about a week for it to arrive. I mainly got it to brush my teeth with and also for my 2 ye old to use. I heard it can heal cavities. I think I am seeeing a difference already, mainly with gum health. But more time will tell. And after I had my baby, I was all of a sudden stinky and had to shower constantly (sorry if TMI). I think my body was trying to ajust rom the hormone changes of being post partum. Since I have been taking the clay, no more stink!! Must be working! It is so easy to take in powder form and no problem for my dd either.

(note- Isn't living clay the same as pacalite?)
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I take pascalite internally and I have metal fillings and am breastfeeding. I called them on the phone to order and it took about a week for it to arrive. I mainly got it to brush my teeth with and also for my 2 ye old to use. I heard it can heal cavities. I think I am seeeing a difference already, mainly with gum health. But more time will tell. And after I had my baby, I was all of a sudden stinky and had to shower constantly (sorry if TMI). I think my body was trying to ajust rom the hormone changes of being post partum. Since I have been taking the clay, no more stink!! Must be working! It is so easy to take in powder form and no problem for my dd either.

(note- Isn't living clay the same as pacalite?)
I would love to know more about pascalite and where you ordered it from.

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I would love to know more about pascalite and where you ordered it from.
I got it from pascalite.com just like TanyaLopez. I would love to have Pansebjorne chime in because she got me hooked on the clay. Pascalite is better than bentonite eventhough it is a form of bentonite. regular bentonite is "sodium bentonite", but pascalite is "calcium bentonite". Wow that was wordy. Clear enough?
Pascalite is great at going into the body and mopping up toxins. Anything else you are specifically interested in knowing (not that I have the answers, but someone may know if I don't). I am still learning.

I am mainly using it for my mouth. I had a root canal done years ago and the gum aways bleeds when I floss, everytime, and for the first time it doesn't bleed. I pack the clay around the tooth that has a cavity and the surrounding gums.
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I would love to know more about pascalite and where you ordered it from.
Here's a good page:
http://www.aboutclay.com/clay_sources.htm

There are also lots of articles at natural news but I haven't read them yet - is this site credible???
http://www.naturalnews.com/GoogleSea...ml?q=clay&cx=0
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bluebirdmama1, how much do/did you take and for how long? I know yr not supposed to take it long term - but haven't read any specific dosing recommendations yet.

Thanks!

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Have any of you tried zeolite?
http://www.zeolite.com/zeolite-benefits.php
just came across it a minute ago so haven't read it all yet - kind of sounds too good to be true!
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I take 1/2 tsp 2 times a week in addition to what I am brushing with. I don't see anyhing wrong with long term use. Where did you hear that?

I do have a zeolite spritzer in my cabinet, but never use it. I am not sure much about it.
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The bentonite clay from Living Clay Co. is calcium bentonite, not sodium bentonite. Sodium bentonite should never be taken internally, but calcium bentonite is GREAT to us internally as well as externally. I really like the people who work there, too. They're very friendly and knowledgeable and always seem glad to take the time to answer any questions I've had. They are also very fast with their shipping. Really, I just can't say enough good stuff about this clay. I use it for so many things, and it always surpasses my expectations. And I love that website www.aboutclay.com. There's a ton of good info there on how to use healing clay.
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Oh yeah! Using it long term - I've been using Living Clay for 4 years, daily, and I plan on using it for the rest of my life. There's no problem with using it long term at all.
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The Yerba Prima Great Plains Bentonite I was going to order from Vitacost said short term use on the label. That's why I thought that. But I'm going to order from Living Clay I've decided. I can't tell if the other stuff is the calcium or sodium.
I can't wait to try it!
Oh, one more thing if you're not all sick of me yet!
Does anyone know about the calcium in the clay - it's not going to cause calcium deposits or stones? I know I'm paranoid sounding - but I don't supplement calcium b/c I'm at risk of stones and want to make sure the clay isn't going to do that or mess w/ cal/mag ratio, kwim???

Thanks for all the input ladies!
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I don't wanna crash the happy vibe in this thread but I have heard that the clay has very very high levels of aluminum and to avaoid it. Per my naturopathic doctor.

 

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Oh ya... We were just at my naturopathic doctors yesterday. My doctor gave my mom (who came with us, my son sees her for liver disease) this big lecture about her mercury fillings she got removed. She did not get them removed correctly and has had migranes and fatigue ever since. She put her on two products to remove the mercury from her body that she inhaled when she got her fillings removed.

-alginate plus
-zeolite

 

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Those may not work for Sandy brcause she was looking for detoxers that she could use while she still has her fillings. But I don't know enough about those things to tell.
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on the Living Clay site, do you get the liquid or the powder? How much do you usually buy and how often?
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I don't wanna crash the happy vibe in this thread but I have heard that the clay has very very high levels of aluminum and to avaoid it. Per my naturopathic doctor.
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Should I be alarmed if clay has aluminum and other metals in it?
No. Clay is not digested or broken down into it mineral elements. It acts as a whole and holds its integrity. It pulls any positively charged item (toxins, metals, bacteria, etc.) to itself and leaves the body. Alumino silicates are crystalline compounds, usually made up of silicon, aluminum and oxygen. As long as the aluminum is bound in this form, it poses no health risk. The aluminum is never in isolated form, and is not adsorbed into the body.
http://www.aboutclay.com/info/faq.htm


Re Zeolite

I'm still researching this stuff.

Fern,
It sounds like most ppl get the powder and mix it themselves. That's what I'm going to do.

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I'm posting this in case anyone else wants/needs this info:

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What is the best way to use Calcium Bentonite Clay to remove toxic metals from the body? I've heard that toxins can be re-absorbed by the body if the detox process is not done properly.
Taking a good quality natural clean Calcium Bentonite clay is always stronger than a processed clay. A 325 screen mesh green healing is recommended. Take the clay daily, 1-2 ounce twice a day (depending on how many toxins you are consciously exposed to, i.e. working around chemicals) for a week. And when the system is cleaned and balanced, 1 ounce a day usually does the trick. This is referring to 1 oz of premixed liquid clay - 1 part of clay powder to 8 parts of purified water. This is preventative and keeps toxins from getting in the body. To help rid the body of already stored toxins, the Family Hope Center, which treats Autistic children, recommends 2 clay baths a week for 5 weeks using 2 cups of Therapeutic Living Clay per bath. Since Mercury tends to linger it would not hurt to repeat clay baths on a monthly or bi-monthly basis. The beauty of clay is that it draws impurities to itself and pulls them into itself so that danger of re-absorption by the body is not likely to occur. Some products loosen the metals so to speak but are not as good at capturing them like clay.
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So, if clay attracts toxic metals, wouldn't it also attract other metals that you need in your body? I'm assuming it can't differentiate between friendly minerals and toxic ones.

To be honest, I always thought that the benefits of eating clay had more to do with getting your minerals when you don't have access to other foods, but that doesn't make sense if it removes metals. Can someone please explain this?
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Shamelessly subbing to remind Panserbjorne to chime in!!!

Also -
Why is calcium better than sodium?

I have low sodium issues, so would the Sodium Bentonite be better for me?
They sell it at Mt. Rose ad I am about to place an order so tha would be awesome. they don't have the calcium bentonite I don't think. But if the calcium is better I'll order from livingclay.com or bentonite.com I guess.

Thanks!!!
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Shamelessly subbing to remind Panserbjorne to chime in!!!

Also -
Why is calcium better than sodium?

I have low sodium issues, so would the Sodium Bentonite be better for me?
They sell it at Mt. Rose ad I am about to place an order so tha would be awesome. they don't have the calcium bentonite I don't think. But if the calcium is better I'll order from livingclay.com or bentonite.com I guess.

Thanks!!!
I too am wondering about the difference between calcium and sodium bentonites. Can't seem to find much specific info googling.

Mountain rose Herbs has Bentonite Clay that they say is for internal use and it's sodium bentonite. I love their products. Would this be a good clay to use internally?
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/learn/bentonite.php

I hope so b/c I have a gift certificate I'd love to use to buy the clay!

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What about taking clay when nursing? If it has detox effects isn't that a no no? I am also curious as was a pp about it leaching other good things out along with the bad....

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