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I am absolutely NOT advocating the use of a full dose of prophylactic KI.  But I seem to be missing something here, because in the Iodine thread here on MDC and in Brownstein's research and according to all my health care people, the amount we are now taking is completely safe to take on a daily basis and is probably very close to what we would need anyway to be fully nutritionally sufficient in iodine.  It is the same amount (13mg for an adult) that Japanese women consume daily.  


I'm finding, by the way, that iodine supplementation in the amount you mentioned, seems to be linked to much, much lower rates of breast cancer. I think Japanese have some of the lowest occurrences of breast cancer b/c of their iodine intake.


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I am absolutely NOT advocating the use of a full dose of prophylactic KI.  But I seem to be missing something here, because in the Iodine thread here on MDC and in Brownstein's research and according to all my health care people, the amount we are now taking is completely safe to take on a daily basis and is probably very close to what we would need anyway to be fully nutritionally sufficient in iodine.  It is the same amount (13mg for an adult) that Japanese women consume daily.  


This is exactly what I was thinking.

 


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I have been taking Iodoral daily for many months now and it was time to re-stock. My usual source was sold out, so I ordered some last night, from this place:

 

http://www.aviva.ca/shop/products.asp?itemid=3148&catid=195

 

I got the shipping notice this morning. I think they are a Canadian company, but also ship to the US. 

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Yes, 2 billion years ago.


And it ran for hundreds of thousands of years, originating right after (in relative terms) the oxygenation of surface water, which allowed solubilization of U-235 in the first place.

 

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No amount of whole foods nourishment can compete with the completely unnatural form of radioactivity that is released from nuclear fission. Our planet did not evolve along those lines.

 

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 Yes, Iodoral is good - it' s basically Lugol's in tablet form. And you shouldn't need a script for it.

You can order it online if your HFS is out. They still had some at Amazon yesterday but it's going fast.


 

 


Thank you! I'm not sure I feel the need to take it based on this incident (nuclear fallout in Japan), but it coincides with my reading and beginning research for removing toxins and heavy metals from my body anyway.

 

I'm more of a food is medicine girl, but I am not opposed to supplements. I'm just wondering if I can get more iodine through my diet before going to the supplement form.

 

I hope the naturally high iodine in the Japanese diet helps protect them.

 


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I don't understand why some are rushing to head to the East Coast - if it makes it to the West Coast, it's not so unrealistic to think it will just continue to travel east, is it?  And like one of the PP's said, you're just going to return to a contaminated environment anyway.

 

That's not to say I'm not concerned, because I am, but I can't imagine picking up and visiting the East Coast while watching and waiting for the unknown to possibly happen.  I need to protect my family and will, and they absolutely come first, but my community may need me as well.


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They've abandoned the plant.  Everyone is fleeing.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8383978/Japan-earthquake-residents-flee-as-quake-fears-spread.html

 

 The Fukushima 50 are heros.

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They briefly evacuated the plant, but the 50 have returned.  Residents are fleeing.  Careful reading; that article says they left the 50 there, so it's not a total evacuation. The Fukushima 50 are most definitely heroes.  Most people are getting out of dodge with good reason.

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...nevermind, it really does look as if it's abandoned.  The previous article said they returned after being evacuated briefly...so now I'm just trying to find the latest news...

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Good thing for all you right on the ocean is your iodine level may be good as you can absorb iodine through the air from the ocean.
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.........you know what just forget it

 

 

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Mmmochi, I am so sorry for your devastation. I can't imagine how horrifying this must be for you. I would probably feel likewise. I am sorry to cause offense. What can I do to help you? 

 

It is incredibly selfish for me to be so concerned about my child, but I am only human. 

 

Prayers for you and your family, I hope you are safe.


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Im 209 km from the Fukushima plant, downwind, in Japan. (ask the mods, they can see my IP address and confirm, because Im sure some nasty person will doubt me)

 

I have to say I am disgusted at the self centred conversation going on here.

 

I have NO potassium iodine for my children, we have solution to paint on, but thats it. We have no hope of outrunning it, no gas for our car, no trains, no planes with spaces on them.

 

Who has gone onto the Japan tribe and left a message for the mothers there?

 

Who has said much actually about the very real suffering here. We have very little water and very little food, and lost a family member, but we are the lucky ones.

 

You self centred bunch of women, how uncaring about others outside of the States, can you acually get!


I don't usually step into these things because I'm a non-confrontational person and I haven't been contributing to this thread since I'm on the East Coast but I wanted to say I'm very sorry for your loss and the suffering that you are continuing to experience.  In the defense of the women on this thread I do have to say that you can't judge us without knowing us.  I'm not the type to shout from the rooftops all the good stuff I'm doing so I would imagine there are plenty of other women here who are quietly helping and praying and it hurts to know that we are being judged for wanting to help our own families.  Like I said, I'm on the East Coast so the risk is much lower but I have been reading along to get information to help a friend on the West Coast who doesn't have the financial means to purchase iodine even if she could find it.

Our health food store still has iodine in stock, I would happily send you some if you wanted although I'm not sure if the mail would be running.

Again, I am so very sorry for your loss and all that you are going through.  I will be praying for you and your family.

 

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You know what, you are not worth my energy or my upset. Ive better things to be using that on. I was never saying not to be concerned about your children, but to show a little concern for the children and mothers here. But really really, its not worth expecting that people to do that

 

I really hope the radiation does not reach you and your children.

 

Good luck 

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I'm so sorry for what you are dealing with. How scary! I know that I went to the Japan forum to look for updates etc but saw nothing and then I looked around other forums and saw nothing and I wondered if it was against the User agreement to discuss such tradegies? That's why I never posted. Personally for me I have been very affected by this tradegy. I was evacuated due to a tsunami warning here in CA. I was woken up at 4 am and a big part of my town was evacuated. It was frightening because my whole town is coastal and low lying and earthquakes and tsunami's are our biggest threat. I had 15 minutes warning to leave and I realized how completley unprepared I was. We were very lucky that the damage to our area was only around $40 million and we only lost a few lives. I know I am very worried about everyone in Japan and I so wish I could offer up my home and some food to those there. I am also very worried about radiation coming here because we are directly in the jetstream. I keep seeing those videos in Japan and realize that my whole town would be gone if this happened, and geologists have been warning us for years that it will happen. I want to offer my support to those in Japan and I also want to protect my own family. If radiation comes here in the next day then my own children are at risk for cancer and our food supply and the water supply. This whole thing is petrifying and I am so very sorry that you are right there with so little help. If I can help in any way please tell me how, My thoughts and prayers are with your family and every single person affected by this tradegy.

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You know what, you are not worth my energy or my upset. Ive better things to be using that on. I was never saying not to be concerned about your children, but to show a little concern for the children and mothers here. But really really, its not worth expecting that people to do that

 

I really hope the radiation does not reach you and your children.

 

Good luck 


The last thing I want to do I cause upset.  I'm very sorry.  How can we help you?  Honestly.  I want to know what I can do to help.  I know we have been told not to send items, just send money.  But I'm also reading that the relief supplies aren't making it to the people who need it.  I am deeply concerned for the families in Japan.  I have been crying everyday reading about and watching the devastation.  When it happened, DH and I were glued to the TV watching in horror and praying for everyone there.

 

Please, what can we do to help?  I am just one person but I will do what I can.  My favourite quote from my favourite philosopher is "Do or do not. There is no try".  Tell me what you need and I will do it.

 

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I agree with the pp's. Mmmochi, please let us know how we can help. Can we send food? Water? Anything? I don't have potassium iodide, otherwise I would send you mine.

 

This is a thread started for the west coast and how the nuclear fallout might affect us, so if it is hurting you, please care for yourself mama, and stay away.


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I was on another board when 9/11 happened and something that we did was that those of us outside the US (I'm in Canada) got paired up with a member in the US and kind of had a pen pal thing going on just for support and an alternative source of information.  I wonder if the mamas in the Japan tribe would be interested in something like that? mmmmochi do you think that would be helpful?  I don't want to just crash the tribe so I will wait to hear from you or another mama in Japan.

 

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I don't understand why some are rushing to head to the East Coast - if it makes it to the West Coast, it's not so unrealistic to think it will just continue to travel east, is it?  And like one of the PP's said, you're just going to return to a contaminated environment anyway.

 


The half life of radioactive iodine 131 is about 8 days, so it will not reach the east coast.

 



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I was on another board when 9/11 happened and something that we did was that those of us outside the US (I'm in Canada) got paired up with a member in the US and kind of had a pen pal thing going on just for support and an alternative source of information.  I wonder if the mamas in the Japan tribe would be interested in something like that? mmmmochi do you think that would be helpful?  I don't want to just crash the tribe so I will wait to hear from you or another mama in Japan.

 

Martha


I think this is a great idea, if there are people who have electric/access to internet.

 


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This whole thing is just so horrible that I don't even know how to think about it or deal with thinking about it.

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Mmmochi mama, on a different note, I would like to share some info. 

My local community is having a huge bake sale, with all finances going to Japan. Here is the link: http://sanfrancisco.grubstreet.com/2011/03/bakesale_for_japan_to_echo_las.html

 

Also, I don't know how much this affects you, but my church and our families' churches have spent a lot of time in prayer for those affected by this disaster. There have been weekly prayer groups meeting, and moments of reflection. So if you believe in a god, or energies, or anything that brings you comfort to know that people are praying praying praying. 

 

 

Everyone I know is concerned and heartbroken. 

 

Please forgive me for sounding selfish. Honestly, let us know if there is anyway to help besides what is humanly possible already. 


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Mmmmochi, we are devastated for you.  Please do not judge without knowing us - I don't get on here to spout my good deeds, just share information.  If you would like to know, dh and I skipped class and work today to put together humanitarian aid kits through a very reputable charity in our area that are being shipped over now.  We hope you receive help soon.  I don't really go into the tribe section much.  Please keep us updated and let us know if there's anything specifically we can do.

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I imagine all this does sound terribly selfish to anyone in Japan or with loved ones near the disaster.  I have purposely kept my emotions out of this thread because I thought it would all sound very trite.  There is no way most us here can comprehend what people in Japan are feeling and thinking.  I apologize if it comes across uncaring, which it must.  Most folks I know are devastated and very worried about the Japanese people.  Again, I didn't express my feelings about it here because it felt ridiculous to do so in the face of what is going on, but please know that we are thinking of you all night and day and hoping every moment that things will start getting better soon.  My concern for my own family, rational or not, doesn't negate my horror and heartbreak for people in the midst of this disaster.

 

I am aware that it is impossible to send any iodine to Japan or I would have done it already. 

 

 

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I may get pinched for straying away from original topic, but felt compelled to share this article that provides a

perspective I found to ring true for me. Perhaps it will resonate w/ others here:

Japan's Earthquake: Shaking Open Our Self-Centered Eyes

xo

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It looks like more radiation monitors will be up and running soon.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110317/ap_on_re_us/us_west_coast_radiation_monitors

 

My potassium iodide is arriving tomorrow--I've read the risks and we've decided our family will be taking it.

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I have started packing.  I've been listening to Democracy Now this morning.  Nuclear experts say that if a full meltdown happens involving the fuel pools, which seems more likely than not at this point, it will affect the entire planet and the world's food supply.  Considering the trajectory of events so far, it no longer feels crazy to try and get out of the direct downwind path as best I can.  

 

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=weather-japan-radiation-united-states

 

 

 

 

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where will you go joybird? I am scared. 


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To DC where my MIL lives.  Looking at the jet stream position though, it seems like in a catastrophic scenario the whole US could be the first stop for fallout, but the farther away the better.

 

I am trying to figure out how to divide up the liquid KI for DP to distribute to my family here if it comes to that.  I am also very scared.  I feel like people are purposely being misled about the dangers and that there is a lot of denial right now.  This is stepping up to become worse than Chernobyl.  The US detected fallout from that and it had to travel all the way around the world to get here.

 

No one knows how this is going to unfold and I don't want to wait until its too late.  I hope beyond hope that I am going for nothing.  If I didn't have small children I would not be leaving.  I feel like I should mention I am not wealthy.  At all.  

 

 

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"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." - Franklin D. Roosevelt.

 

Most of the radiation from Chernobyl was within 500 miles. The US is 5000+ miles away. http://users.owt.com/smsrpm/Chernobyl/glbrad.html

400km = 250 miles

Time and Distance decrease radiation effects also. http://www.radford.edu/fpc/Safety/Radiation/chp6.htm

 

There are 50+ radioactivity protective foods/supplements/herbs/homeopathics.

 

 

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