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Okay, you guys have got to help me stick to it longer than 2 weeks! I never seem to be able to stick to these things longer than that. This diet is really easy to stick to as long as you have the things you need at home. It sucks when you are out though, you just have to be hungry a few hours longer, because there is basically no foods that I trust to eat out. Who knows what they add to their stuff. I just need to start being more prepared in my bag with portable food. I don't know what though. Oh well, we try to be around home as much as possible anyway.
Hang in there!!

I always try to make double batches of cookies/muffins and freeze small 2 people portions to grab on the way out the door. And fruit. Although with DS still needing to have his fruit cooked, that's hard now. Cheese is a great easy snack too if you can do it. In a pinch, I grab DS's waffles
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I always try to make double batches of cookies
Hi Jane,

What cookie recipes do you like/use?
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I made up my own recipe:

Almond Cookies

1 1/2 cups finely ground almond flour
1 egg
1/4 c. honey
1/4 c. coconut oil
1 teasp. vanilla, or
1/2 teasp. almond extract, or
1/2 teasp. anise extract, or
1 teasp. vanilla and 3/4 teasp. cinnamon

On a parchment paper lined baking sheet, drop by teaspoons and flatten out.

Bake 350F for 10-12 mins. Best if they are not too browned. Store in frig. or freezer.

They come out soft. If you like crispy, you can dry out in a barely warm oven or dehydrator.

I'm trying these now, let you know tomorrow how they come out.
http://www.grainfreegourmet.com/sandcookies.html
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Thanks, Jane, for the stock recipe. I've never made it with the vinegar before. I'll have to try it.

All of a sudden, the health food store here started carrying raw milk. I bought some and made the 24 hr yogurt using a food warmer I found at the thrift store for $3.00. I had some this morning. It definitely had an effect on my digestion. I am hoping dd's face won't break out if I start eating it. I will just have to wait and see. I'm also on my 2nd day of no chocolate and no sugar, which to you SCD's, won't seem like much, but I had really gone off the deep end with it.

You all sound like you are doing well on the diet. How's Moneca and her little one?
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How's your bunny's face today? Any effects from the yogurt?

Good luck on your diet changes, believe me I hear you, I'm only on SCD b/c I finally reached a point where I had to be. Thankfully it's a pretty pleasant diet compared to the Elim Diet, that's for sure!

Moneca and Sierra are still dealing with some physical digestive issues, she's been MIA lately. I miss her
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Jane, do you keep the soak water for the stock with the vinegar in it? And what do you do with the fat, just toss it?
Yes, definately b/c the vinegar is to dissolve more minerals into the stock, you can even add more. The finished stock never tastes a bit like vinegar at all.

Depends on the fat, sometimes I keep a bit of it, like lamb or beef to make the meat very moist but throw away most of it. Chicken: there is not much and it's soft even when chilled, so I just stir it back into the reduced stock.

Although I probably should be using all the fat b/c it has vitamin D I think?
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I wanted a grocery list of items to always have on hand, so I went through the BTVC recipes and wrote down all the ingredients in the recipes, since I noticed that most ingredients are repeated in all the recipes.
It's not perfect, but I thought it might be helpful for others.
That's an AWESOME list, thank you!
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Nice list. Looking at that the diet doesn't seem too bad. Still waiting for the book.

I tried making yogurt twice this month and both times it didn't turn out. Mostly because I forget I put it in the oven (I will have to try the 60 w light bulb if I can figure out how to change it) and so it sits there for hours at too low a temp. The other time I made it in a cooler with hot water and it still didn't turn out. It turns out all slimy. Like I can pour it out and it is all connected slime!! What temp should you be incubating it for? I thought 95 was ok? That is what it was in the cooler and it didn't work ( but that might be the time I tried only heating my milk to 110 to preserve the enzymes. What does turning into slime mean? To many bad bacteria? Not enough starter? I usually use Brown Cow or Seven Stars, but they all have bifidum in them. I don't really like the idea of Dannon for the fact that it isn't organic (and conventional milk icks me out). Is the yogurmet starter a good one? I guess I don't like the idea of it because it is a powder.

Ok one last question. I am still having my thrush issues. Major pain here and I am about ready to go to the doctor and get diflucan. I just want it gone so that I can nurse without agonizing pain. I am just worried the diflucan will end up making it worse in the long run. What do you all think?
Right now I am treating with GSE and vinegar and coconut oil (I just did a 3 day GV round, but it is a little too rough on my nipples).

Thanks.
Slimy yogurt means there are yeasts present b/c it wasn't at a high enough temp. to prevent their growth.

I totally understand re: organic dairy, but you will use only a small amount of Dannon. And I use Yogourmet powder and it's never failed me yet, I like it. Generally I also stay away from powdered things too (damaged proteins and fats, not healthy) but it is mostly dried bacteria, only a teaspoon full per packet.

I did all that for thrush too... only a day of hell on Diflucan though, OMG, I was sooooo sick to my stomach. It's very hard on your liver too. I don't know if it kills off good bacteria too. But I remember the pain, it was awful.

And nothing worked as good as diet changes. Be careful with GSE b/c I know that kills off your good bacteria as well as the bad. Unless you are using a lot of probiotics to replace them, and are still eating sugar and other hard to digest carbs, I think it could lead to making the problem worse.

How much coconut oil are you taking? 3 1/2 tablespoons/day or more are recommended. Or 10 oz of full fat coconut milk (make a smoothie).

If the yogurt is too much of a headache, you could try probiotic capsules (a lot) for now, until you perfect your yogurt making system and eating plan.
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Hi all. I am completely new to this thread, and very interested in learning about healing the gut. I think my family really needs a nutrition overhaul, even though none of us has obvious food allergies. I do think food has an enormous effect on behavior, mood and health. I have to say that this thread is completely overwhelming! It's going to take me forever to read through it (and all the other Healing the Gut threads). So for now I'll just be : and probably be back with questions.
It's great to see you here!!

I know re: the size of these threads are ridiculous...

In a nutshell, I think some of the best things you can do for health are:

1. Make homemade yogurt and stock, and eat both frequently.

2. Get everyone in family on cod liver oil. http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnut...dliveroil.html

3. Get some raw milk if you can.

4. Stop using refined sugar and use natural sugars with the minerals intact: maple syrup, honey, Rapadura, molasses, date sugar. (White sugar leeches minerals from your body and suppresses immune system...so not only does it not provide nutrition, it takes away nutrition from the good things you do eat!)

5. Ditto white flour and processed cereals. Learn to prepare whole grains properly: http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/be_kind.html

6. Read the incredible site www.westonaprice.org and his book "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" http://www.westonaprice.org/traditio...ry_wisdom.html

7. Read "Nourishing Traditions" by Sally Fallon.

Your family's immune systems will get enormous benefit... and the connection between health and nutrition will start to click. We do have great power over our health, and it's all in what we eat.

The raw milk co-op I belong to picks up in Weston. I pick up every other week. You make drives to the organic dairy in Western MA twice a year (actually have belonged six months and haven't been yet!) Local drives to Tewksbury every 6 weeks or so for the Weston group. We can also get free range eggs. And cheese, cream and butter, all grass fed. Pastured meats when we make a special order. Let me know if that interests you!

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Hey y'all!

I just wanted to post an intro and subscribe to this thread. We've been down that long and trecherous journey of food allergies. We're on a very strict elimination diet for the moment. I've been considering doing SCD for a long time now, but haven't gotten my hiney in gear to do it. Partly because I'm unsure that it will help, and partly because it means giving up even *more* foods!

But the other day, we went to a new chiropractor who uses muscle testing for food allergies. He's been doing it for 40 years and is very experienced. He did a muscle test on our DD, and looked me straight in the eye and told me he found NO food allergies!! I was astonished and amazed. I argued with him "oh no! This girl is DEFINITELY allergic!! I carry an epi-pen!" and on and on.

Now, the visit was a brief one simply because the appointment was actually for DH and I explained to the Dr. that we'd be bringing DD in later that week. He said "oh set her in your lap and let's go ahead and clear her for something." That's what started it all. We're going back in today for her "real" visit.

So here I am thinking "what if all this time it was REALLY TRULY only gut related and not food allergies (of the true sense) at all???" So now I'm just on the verge of beginning the SCD. We will be seeing a nutritional therapist next week, and I want to get her opinions before starting. And also, I wanted to get some advice as to the best way to get going. One thing I do know is that before beginning a new diet, I must come up with some meals and snacks and stock the pantry AHEAD of time. Boy have I messed that up in the past, and it's really disheartening to want to eat something and find that there's nothing to eat!

OK, enough blabbering. Oh, I haven't yet read the past thread. If I were to try to do that first, I'd never get my intro-post done!
Hey yourself and welcome!

(and Liane, you made me :LOL of course you can you goof!)

WOW, that story is *very* interesting. I'm especially glad you are here b/c I know so little about this side of healing and all, I'll be following your experiences with much interest.

Elaine Gottschall, author of the SCD, has some very interesting things to say about allergies, and she certainly had the scientific background to back them up. I didn't know about the SCD when I first posed my question, "Are Allergies Really Allergies?", the thread that started this tribe... but it seemed to answer everything that had been nagging at me since I started reading about leaky gut.

The best place to start is reading the BTVC book, or scouring the site. There is enough there to learn about the diet and start it.
http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.i..._the_diet2.htm
http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.i...ntro_diet2.htm

Great excerpt from the book about celiac disease, one of the worst food allergies you can have!
http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.i...ac_disease.htm

Also Pecanbread, which was created for kids with ASD, but has a lot of good info.
http://www.pecanbread.com/scdscience.html

And then so many SCD recipe sites in the links, can have you busy for days. But first you start with the Intro diet for 2-5 days. Then aftewards, start certain things like nut flour and nut butter slowly depending on how damaged the gut is.

At first it's recommended to cook all your veggies and fruits (ex. bananas). So plan to make big batches of applesauce or pearsauce in crockpot. I just made a big bag of frozen peaches, reduced the juices a bit til syrupy and we ate it for several days, yummy. Spaghetti squash is a godsend! All squashes really, you will find that you can use butternut squash 800 different ways. Thankfully it is fall and now we have acorn, delicata, etc. to choose from.

I like the Midas Gold pancakes/waffles recipe in the book and also it's posted on Pecanbread.com. The muffin recipe in the book, also can adapt that one for bread, unsweetened and sweetened banana bread.

If you do want to discuss with a nutritionist, I'd read the book and bring it with you for the research study references.

Personally I always thought nuts aggravated my IBS for a long long time. To the point where I was convinced I had an allergy. It wasn't the nuts, it was the grains and the sugars impeding my digestion so that sending down some whole nuts was impossible for them to break down!
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Welcome to All!!!

we are still plugging along here, wanted to post another recipe for ya'll

Pumpkin Pie

2 c. pumpkin cooked and mashed (or other squash I used butternut)
1 c. milk(I used homemade yogurt)
1/2 c honey
2 eggs beaten
cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves- I used Pumpkin Pie Spice with a little clove

Puree in blender, pour in pie pan, cook at 350 for about an hour until knife inserted comes out clean. Very scrumptious! Dh even liked he thought it was "real" pumpkin pie!

I still haven't received my book yet! I am getting a bit discouraged. My hormones are so out of whack, I have been depressed and grumpy. We want a baby so bad! But with trying to get him healed it really isn't possible right now I am thinking it might never happen... Luke is supposed to be ebf'ing, but keeps find crumbs of whatever on the floor- I do sweep everyday!

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Hi everyone,
I just heard of this tribe and thought I'd join! What a great discussion

I've had problems with candida and allergies for a long time now, on and off, at times I'm able to quash it. I'm bf'ing right now, so no major killing can go on, and I'm finding that enteric coated bacteria are working best, but I'm going though a bottle a week just to keep the good bacteria numbers up. Its a bit of a battle, and I'm avoiding all my allergy foods too (dairy, corn, wheat, rice). I've tried Garden of Life probiotics and they worked for a bit but no longer. What are some of your favs?

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Jane, I sure wish ds would eat squash, he won't go near it unless it's in the form of pumpkin pie, and I'm even wondering about that now. And he hates pureed food of any kind, will not eat applesauce or any other sauce. He sort of eats steamed apples and pears, but much prefers them raw, likes to chew things. Sigh. He will eat the cashew and pecan muffins I've made, maybe I could try a pumpkin muffin.
I made some beef stock, and even though I cooked it overnight, it still didn't gel when cooled. Also, I had some today, and I think it triggered a migraine. The beef bones were from a regular supermarket, could they have had MSG added to them?

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On the pumpkin pie...Is there any sort of crust? Oris it kinda like a cooked pudding?
Sounds wonderful!

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Hey Pilgrim! Glad you're joining in. Let us know how the other appointment goes!

Crunchymama I hope your book gets there soon! So did you mean that you are wanting to ttc again?

Ugh! I've been MIA for the past few days--going through major detox! Dang. I guess that means it's working? I didn't eat all day yesterday, just water and a little broth in the evening. This morning I made the homemade jello and had a little of that. I think I might have jumped into things to quickly this time.
The x-factor butter oil came the other day too, and I took some of that, so maybe that stuff is powerful too and caused the healing detox to come on.

We've been unable to conceive since I had my 3 yo. So I'm hoping that healing will help with that too. Although I may have some blocked tubes or something like that from a surgery I had, so I might go to the doctor in a few months to check that out too.

Carry on!
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How's your bunny's face today? Any effects from the yogurt?

Moneca and Sierra are still dealing with some physical digestive issues, she's been MIA lately.

Hi Jane,

Her face looks pretty good... I've noticed my nose was stuffy so I wondered if it was the yogurt... I was mixing it w/ homemade granola-not SCD legal-but I haven't taken that plunge yet. But the last two days, I didn't eat any yogurt, and it is just as stuffy! So maybe it is due to yeast?

I feel sad to hear that about Moneca & Sierra. I hope they are okay!

Love the recipes! That pumpkin soup sounds fantastic!
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Hey ladies. I read this thread when I can and have posted a time or two and thought I'd put in a proper intro.

I had my son in April of 2002, c/s, 2 rounds of antibiotics, one the usual round, one because of an infection brewing in my abdominal tissues. Very bad BFing issues. Didn't get him to latch until 3 1/2 weeks postpartum. He had a jaw problem as it turned out so he didn't even bottle feed well. I had depression in pg and then postpartum on top of it with a baby who couldn't feed.

By 4 weeks postpartum, I had read everything there was to read about problems in BFing that I realized my son had thrush even though he didn't have the white spots in his mouth. It also explained why it hurt so much to pump. The BFing is a whole other excruciating story, but we worked it out with a great deal of stress.

From one month postpartum for the following 9 months I treated the thrush as a topical problem -- Nystatin, GV, cut down on grains and sugar. It kept coming back. I would wash all of the laundry again, boil the bras, etc. Every 4-6 weeks, there it was again.

At 11 months pp, I was nursing and had shooting pains in my breasts. Called the chiro. She put me on a diet: no grains, no fruit, no high starch veggies (potatoes, beans, etc), no fermented foods, no high mold foods. You all know the drill. I followed it for 9 months. (Oh and I looked great because I got into a size 10 for the first time since I was in preschool or some such but that's a whole other story.)

I used some anti-fungals as well, but not that diligently really. I had a bad reaction to GSE so I backed off the anti-fungal angle.

I tried to add yogurt about 6 weeks into the diet. I bought a good organic yogurt and had a bad reaction. Some months later I tried to culture my own, loved it, and ate it in large quantities. I started kefir as well and have given grains out to just about the entire MDC community (until my postmaster made this difficult and that too is a whole other story). The kefir made a notable difference. Or perhaps it was the combo of yogurt and kefir. Who knows. (I use Yogourmet starter as well.)

The approach worked for the most part. A year or so later I would still get occasional nipple pain, but it would go away with one treatment of GV. Sometimes it would go away untreated. Hard to imagine not treating nipple thrush, but it was apparently a mild case at that point.

I'm 2 1/2 years out from the start of the diet now and have stayed fairly diligent in terms of not reintroducing the very bad stuff. I spent a year in there eating a whole lot of fruit and some whole grains and gained back my weight :

In an effort to lose some of my "winter coat" as I called it, that turned into a summer coat and now it's fall, I tried the diet again figuring I lost a whole lot quickly before, why not again. I cut out every smidgen of grain and fruit and just kept in cream and butter in the dairy department. I also had gotten myself seriously caffeine addicted in August so I kept that in too only because you can only drive yourself so crazy with diet changes. Didn't lose the weight. Talked to the chiro. He said it was my Ph level -- too acid. I didn't admit my caffeine addiction : but decided that it was time to cut that too to fit into my pants. But I digress.

My point is that I did the diet again and the die-off symptoms were minimal. I had severe die-off symptoms for over a month back when I started the diet in 2003 and this time it was no big deal. In fact, it was such a small deal that I am wondering why in the heck I ever got off of it. Heck, at least I'd have pants that fit if I had stayed a little more true to it and my gut would be in better shape.

In this current round, I had no nipple thrush pop either until yesterday. I thought I was in the clear. But we've had a lot of stress in Sep and OCt and have been without a hot water for two weeks. Sitting in your own stink for two weeks does not help in the bacteria department. In any case, I still have a bit of a case, and am still a work in progress. But the more I read about all of this, the more I realize that we're all going to be a work in progress, forever.

So I was reading a book the other day "Depression Cured at Last" by Sherry Rogers and she mentioned that the gut can't be balanced if you have some key underlying nutritional deficiencies. I don't have the book here, but I am writing this so that I remember to find the quote and report back to you all. That in itself would mean it's a long road for all of us. It's hard to get nourished with the gut problems, hard to get rid of the gut problems with the malnourishment.

And that's the very short version.

Amanda Rose, author, Rebuild From Depression: A Nutrient Guide. Don't miss this opportunity to build a business telling friends about probiotic foods and grass fed meats: Beyond Organic Review.

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I made some beef stock, and even though I cooked it overnight, it still didn't gel when cooled. Also, I had some today, and I think it triggered a migraine. The beef bones were from a regular supermarket, could they have had MSG added to them?
When we have had conventional meat, I toss the bones. I doubt they would have MSG, but who knows what. Do you have access to a place that sells organic meat that has a butcher? The Whole Foods 2 hours from us does sell the bones, at $2/lb. Not cheap at all, but that's where I used to buy. We've got our own boy in the freezer now, so it's not an issue.

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My hormones are so out of whack, I have been depressed and grumpy. We want a baby so bad! But with trying to get him healed it really isn't possible right now I am thinking it might never happen... Luke is supposed to be ebf'ing, but keeps find crumbs of whatever on the floor- I do sweep everyday!
IKWYM. The baby planning part is the most painful of all of this. I went through many an emotional turmoil over this issue -- when would I be ready? Does my husband think we're ready? I cried a lot. I gave myself deadlines to be well. I didn't meet the deadlines. I stepped back to relax, decided we wouldn't be having more, gave away baby toys and diapers, and now it's anybody's guess. I'm still not ready 3 1/2 years pp. I had a m/c just over a year ago now at 9 weeks and was probably foolish to get pg in the first place. This all takes so much time and the amount of time is really out of our control to a large degree. We don't *really* know what's wrong exacty so we just forge ahead the best we can and recover in bits and pieces and come out better for it, but probably at a much later date than we ever expected.

And those crumbs on the floor just about put me over the edge many times. But it doesn't take much for a PPD/OCD mix to put you over the edge in the crumb department.

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Ok one last question. I am still having my thrush issues. Major pain here and I am about ready to go to the doctor and get diflucan. I just want it gone so that I can nurse without agonizing pain. I am just worried the diflucan will end up making it worse in the long run. What do you all think?
Right now I am treating with GSE and vinegar and coconut oil (I just did a 3 day GV round, but it is a little too rough on my nipples).

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How did you use the GV? When I first started I used too much. Now I just treat once a day after a nursing and before the biggest stretch of sleep for the child (easy for me now with a 3 1/2 year old). Cover your nipples with the GV and then when baby nurses again, baby will get it in mouth. Baby pretty much sucks most of it off which is why you want to put it on before the longest stretch of sleep so it's on your nipples for a while.

On Diflucan: I didn't do it because of the liver issue Jane mentioned. I think there is a 1% chance of some form of liver damage and a 1/10 of 1% or less of serious liver damage. If you go this route, I highly recommend the diet anyway because it is your diet and lifestyle that got you here and it will just bring you back again. Sorry for the bad news. So it might get you out of the nipple burn phase, but don't lose your motivation to treat the underlying problem.

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Jane, do you keep the soak water for the stock with the vinegar in it? And what do you do with the fat, just toss it?
I just keep the fat in it and make the soup or whatever I'm making.

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But my question is this. So apparentely I have yeast issues. Okay major issues. I recall before I got pregnant a lot of vaginal bacterial infections, but haven't had one since.(knock on wood). And I am so addicted to sugar still (but now is no where compared to before I was preggo with the years on Mt. Dew and candy). Well lately the sugar attacks have been raging. I am constantly hungry. And what do I find myself eating. Yup chips and candy bars and craving pop but none in the house, and eating the heck out of my icecream (at least it's homemade right?). I just don't understand why I am having all these issues lately.
I always had my worst cravings right before a thrush outbreak. They were irrational too -- stuff I didn't really think was good, like Supermarket doughnuts. I decided that it was the yeast making me crazy and getting me to eat the stuff. Adding more essential fatty acids to my diet helped with the cravings. Time helped a great deal as well.

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Jane - Have you posted your son's story anywhere? I've read bits and pieces only.

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thanks for the support Amanda and tweetybird, we are not trying to conceive here, but would desperately like to, I guess it is just as well though as lil' man is high needs. I know dh is dissapointed, as am I. It is nice to hear other people talk about this. No one irl seems to understand this.

the OTHER amanda- it was nice to read your story. I am at the start of this journey and just counting the days until bread and chocolate, so I am hoping that it does get better!!I am still waiting to feel great, hasn't happened yet.... It sounds like you guys are experts with the yeast issues- unfortunately... Yes, the crumbs on the floor drive me nuts, especially since he is not supposed to get anything but bm, so it seems to me that it is ruining everything... which is even more discouraging. The other day I found bits of my yoga mat in his diaper, which he chewed off evidently.

oh, CORRECTION to my recipe-

it is 1/4 - 1/3 c. honey and also add 1/2 t (or more of vanilla) it was the pumpkin pie recipe out of the LLL Whole Foods cookbook, I just baked it without the crust.

That is what I had this am for breakfast, figured really it is fairly healthy for me! Also, I had used the last of my yogurt to make it, which I had been having for breakfast, I have a 3 qt. batch in the oven now. Pookietooth, perhaps the pie woudl be a tool for your lil' one to get some squash?

I feel like we are not having change here and I am feeling very discouraged... I want this done like yesterday... The ND thought the best way to heal his gut was to go back to ebf'ing but of course now he really is nursing all the time and he was only eating a few T's a day before. So, maybe he is feeling better, his poops are erratic.

I hate to hear that about Moneca, we will keep them in our thoughts and prayers!

mimi!- welcome! Honestly I don't know much about probiotics, I am just taking the ones from the ND right now, and I don't even know the brand... terrible I know.

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I decided that it was the yeast making me crazy and getting me to eat the stuff.

I can totally relate! I too feel like the yeast convinces me to eat sugar. It clouds my rationality, tells me it'll be ok if I eat just this one little thing . . . and the next thing you know, all the killing I've done is for not, and the yeast is back. What is that? Its really controlling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :

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I can totally relate! I too feel like the yeast convinces me to eat sugar. It clouds my rationality, tells me it'll be ok if I eat just this one little thing . . . and the next thing you know, all the killing I've done is for not, and the yeast is back. What is that? Its really controlling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :
It says "Eat the doughnut. Just buy it and eat it in the grocery store parking lot before you drive home. It will just take a minute. Think of the chocolate coating. Who cares if it's loaded with partially hydrogenated oils and processed sugars, you need it now. Just go buy it and eat it real fast and it won't even count. Have you purchased it yet? Because it's time to eat it. It's right over there. Go now. Eat it."

And then you eat it and feel like crap.

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The other day I found bits of my yoga mat in his diaper, which he chewed off evidently.
LOL. At the height of my depression, THAT would have driven me bananas. I don't think we had that level of exploration here.

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I'm trying these now, let you know tomorrow how they come out.
http://www.grainfreegourmet.com/sandcookies.html
OMG, these are soooo good... taste just like Pecan Sandies.
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