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good job mama! I know how hard it is not to just want a quick fix. AND we were raised in a society where fever = bad. Not so - Fever is a GOOD sign that our immune system is working. Plus tylenol can cause hepatoxicity (toxic to the liver) so it may do more harm than good. Our bodies are not physically able to have a temperature over 106 - so its not like it can just go up up and up. There is an end point. AND its important to always remember that the higher the temp DOES NOT mean the more sick we are. I know in my daughters case she just runs high temps when she is sick - 103 is a pretty average temp and she is usually still running around acting totally normal.
Yeah that. I'm glad your baby is feeling better! Its hard when they're sick to just let their little bodies cure themselves, but they will.


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We see a naturopath when we are sick. She prescribes garlic oil for ear infections if ear drum is intact. Along with limiting sugar and refined flour and taking zinc/C blend, that has mostly worked. If it does not, which was once, then abx are our next step. If infections were recurring and dietary changes did not help, I would take a little one to an osteopath for adjustment, not a chiro. I prefer chiros for adults only. But, adjustments are a good recourse for those with drainage issues affecting the systems of the body. Chiros for adults, osteo for children or adults. We get a lot of relief from them. I have much fewer sinus infections as a result.

As for the rest of the recommendations, I would not self medicate so I would always ask a qualified health professional before putting anything inside any of my orifices or my childrens.
If my choice is a mainstream doc who is very antibiotic happy or a chiro who's more natural and has actually helped my child get healthier, I'll take the chiro. She has an MD so I'm quite happy taking her advice on garlic drops and supplements. She's gotten my chronically ear infected child to not having any since his first adjustment. Our reg doc just kept dumping antibiotics in him and then wanted to put tubes in when that didn't work. My oldest son is being seen by the chiro as well now for his asthma that came about after his tube surgery and rounds and rounds of antibiotics. You have to do what you feel is right for your children.
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If you're going to a naturopath and using garlic, you are basically self medicating according to science-based medicine.
Seeing a naturopath and following their suggestions is self medicating?

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Seeing a naturopath and following their suggestions is self medicating?
Yeah, but so it taking vitamic C when you're feeling under the weather. Or taking an aspirin when you have a headache. I'm personally a big fan of self-medication.
I was just pointing out that naturopathy isn't considered "real medicine" according to...umm...real medicine. Not that it doesn't have it's uses in the real world, though.
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Everything in this thread seems to be "IF the eardrum has not burst". . . What can I use if it DID burst other than ABx?
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All this information sounds GREAT - if you aren't a baby and your eardrum is apparently intact. Our oldest had her first ear infection last year at age 6. Other than that, we've been clear (knock on wood!) until now. . .

Our youngest (one of our twin boys) has had 3 ear infections in the last 3 months.

The first one (early January, 13 months old) wasn't noticeable until suddenly on a Tuesday afternoon he had tons of pus-filled fluid and curdy white stuff coming out of his ear. When we realized he had an infection, my husband said, "Oh, THAT must be why he was crying on Saturday night!" But the length and intensity of Saturday night's upset didn't seem to me like it would be an ear infection.

He'd showed no other symptoms. I tried putting breastmilk into his ear for a couple of days (the advice I'd seen on that hadn't included the qualifier of eardrum not being ruptured). Since online reading seemed to indicate it was warranted to use abx in kids under 2, we did take him in. The doctor didn't believe me that he hadn't even felt warm until the day AFTER the ear started draining. The infection was treated with amoxicillin.

In late February, he got another one. Same thing: baby (now 14.5 months) acts completely normal (did have cold/runny nose) and suddenly has ear draining. Doctor had swabbed his throat thinking it was something more b/c he had swollen glands and pus in the back of his throat. Ear that wasn't draining was red inside. Swab came back negative. We did amoxicillin again and babe was re-evaluated by doc after 48 hours on the 7-day treatment.

NOW, he was finished the antibiotics for only ONE WEEK by the time the third ear infection started! Half of us, including baby and twin brother, have colds again. Babysitter told me Tuesday at noon that she thought maybe he was getting an ear infection again (not warm, just a bit clingy). She recommended breastmilk in ear and when I said that hadn't worked before, she thought we weren't on top of it soon enough. So I put some in his ear right away. But sure enough, 4 hours later, his eardrum was ruptured again and draining oozey pus.

I'm so frustrated. These last 2 infections have been in the left ear. I think the first one was, also. So today the doctor recommended stronger "clav" penicillin. And of course he's planning to refer us to a specialist and saying tubes might be needed.

My husband and I aren't keen on the antibiotics. But when we try to discuss with doctors, our reading about the ineffectiveness of antibiotics and newer trends toward letting ear infections resolve themselves we get a blanket "No, that's just wrong" or response that it is very important to use abx if baby is under two.

I just feel "unarmed" to try anything else to resolve this because we never know he's getting an ear infection until the eardrum is already ruptured, or this time, 4 hours before it ruptured.

Has anyone been in a similar boat?

I have also read that there is a device parents can buy for home use that is similar to a doctor's otoscope. Does anyone have experience with one of these? Was it helpful? I've been wondering if it would be worthwhile for us to get one and inspect his ears twice a week regardless of his apparent health. Maybe then we would notice redness inside and have a few days to treat with some of these other methods instead of suddenly finding an oozing ear.

Thanks for reading my long-winded post! I'm just so frustrated by the situation and feel that we are quickly getting sucked into an abx/tubes scenario that isn't necessarily going to resolve the problem very well.

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When tubes are put into the ear, the eardrum is also busted and it drains. Why is it so dangerous when the eardrum bursts naturally so it can drain?
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What does being a baby have to do with it? I treat my kids regardless of their age. I have no issue putting onion juice in a 6 month olds ear. If they need it that is.

I would suggest two things that have already been suggested. See a chiropractor for regular adjustments....go for extra if there's reason to believe an infection may be starting.

Find a new doc. My preference would be one that doesnt' use antibiotics. My care providers have other tools which is why none of my kids have ever had them. If you dont' want the meds, find a doc that knows how to treat without them. Allopaths don't.
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Yeah, but so it taking vitamic C when you're feeling under the weather. Or taking an aspirin when you have a headache. I'm personally a big fan of self-medication.
I was just pointing out that naturopathy isn't considered "real medicine" according to...umm...real medicine. Not that it doesn't have it's uses in the real world, though.

I guess that's the difference. I don't consider allopathy to be real medicine. It never cures, it simply suppresses. I would never refer to allopathic standards of care as "real medicine." Of course I know I'm not in the majority here.
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I guess that's the difference. I don't consider allopathy to be real medicine. It never cures, it simply suppresses. I would never refer to allopathic standards of care as "real medicine." Of course I know I'm not in the majority here.
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It's been a while since I've read this thread but does your lo do dairy? I have read articles where there is a correlation between ear infections and dairy/food allergies.
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Ok, everyone, first, let me say THANK YOU for this thread, it was just what I needed at 3:00 in the morning! My dd is almost 5 months old, and has her first real cold, and has begun tugging on her ear and crying. This has been going on for about 3 days now. I tried the breastmilk in her ear 3 different times for the first day and a half when I realized it might be an ear infection, and would like to know more about the onion juice thing. Does it work better to use a cooked onion, or raw? How often should I put the juice in her ear? Would garlic oil be better? Should I do the breastmilk as well? Any advice would be so very greatly appreciated. Thanks mamas!!

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Well, mamas, I need some advice.

I had a flu bug that went into my ear and caused an ear infection last week. I let it run its course without intervention, and now I have a clogged eustachian tube. For the last almost week, my eustachian tube has been completely clogged and my ear has continually drained fluid and I've had a mild earache. I've done lymphatic massage, daily adenoid sweeps (gag), heating pads, neti pot, keeping the ear covered, Mucinex and Sudafed, and hanging on my inversion table. Also, holding my nose and blowing and sucking. Nothing is working. It's not come unclogged, and now the base of my tongue on that side is starting to hurt and swell. I know if I don't resolve it soon, it's going to start facial swelling and push my jaw out of joint. What can I do to get it to drain? I was thinking about calling a chiro and trying to get in, but I don't have the money to get established with a new chiro right now. Anyone have any tricks up their sleeves?

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Does it work better to use a cooked onion, or raw? How often should I put the juice in her ear? Would garlic oil be better? Should I do the breastmilk as well?
raw onion! You can put it in every two hours or so. Yes, you can also do breastmilk. I prefer it to garlic oil, IME it is faster and works better.
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Well, mamas, I need some advice.

I had a flu bug that went into my ear and caused an ear infection last week. I let it run its course without intervention, and now I have a clogged eustachian tube. For the last almost week, my eustachian tube has been completely clogged and my ear has continually drained fluid and I've had a mild earache. I've done lymphatic massage, daily adenoid sweeps (gag), heating pads, neti pot, keeping the ear covered, Mucinex and Sudafed, and hanging on my inversion table. Also, holding my nose and blowing and sucking. Nothing is working. It's not come unclogged, and now the base of my tongue on that side is starting to hurt and swell. I know if I don't resolve it soon, it's going to start facial swelling and push my jaw out of joint. What can I do to get it to drain? I was thinking about calling a chiro and trying to get in, but I don't have the money to get established with a new chiro right now. Anyone have any tricks up their sleeves?

A chiropractor would be my first suggestion. Homeopathy would be my second. You said you can't do the chiro right now.....what's your stnace on homeopathics?
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A chiropractor would be my first suggestion. Homeopathy would be my second. You said you can't do the chiro right now.....what's your stnace on homeopathics?
I will use homeopathics. I did try Hyland's Earache tablets, but they didn't do anything for me. In fact, that was the first thing I tried when I got sick.

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raw onion! You can put it in every two hours or so. Yes, you can also do breastmilk. I prefer it to garlic oil, IME it is faster and works better.
THANKS!! I'll get right on the onion juice and see how she does, the poor little bug!

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I will use homeopathics. I did try Hyland's Earache tablets, but they didn't do anything for me. In fact, that was the first thing I tried when I got sick.
I don't advocate or endorse the use of combination remedies. I am about to throw kids in the bath and then I'll be back and hopefully help you narrow it down. I just don't find that they are worth much of anything. I'm a single dose gal myself.
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Phew! I'm glad I found this thread...these are great ideas!!!
I have 3 kids and not one of them have ever had an ear infection...till now. The flu is just now going around in our area - My oldest has the flu pretty bad and we just found out today she developed a double ear infection. The doctor said one ear is starting to get the infected and the other one was severe.
She was prescribed an antibiotic but I'd rather get rid this without abx. I like the breastmilk idea - I'm really hoping this will work. Do I do this 3x a day?

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Wow.. I'll have to try these tips fo my next ear infection!
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The garlic oil is amazing, it can clear in ear infection usually on it's own. When used with the right homeopathic remedy (we usually use Chamomilla, Pulsatilla, Belladonna, or Aconite) and proper diet and supplements, you rarely need antibiotics.

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A few more things to add.....

Recent studies have shown chewing xylitol can help with ear infections. Chewing gum after a meal helps, as does ingesting it and using a nasal spray containing it. I even cleared up an acute sinus infection that set in after a nose injury with the nasal spray!

For preventing recurring infections, we love the Gaia's Children Ear Drops. They are garlic mullein based, and since using them neither of my kids have had an ear infection. We use them whenever there is prolonged congestion or a severe cold. The only other thing we have used in combination during a cold or congestion is something to reduce the mucus buildup. Naturmade makes a natural version of Mucinex that is free of dyes and just contains guifenesin and other natural ingredients.

Removing dairy is a big help for reducing mucus too.

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My (3mth old) newborn has an ear infection (poor baby! ) and I don't want to give him antibiotics, especially since he's so young. So, I came looking to see if anyone else used breastmilk to successfully cure an ear infection. Someone responded...

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I just did this with my DS2 who had a double ear infection. I put 2 drops of breastmilk into his ears every 3-4 hrs or so for a few days. It cleared up quickly.

...on another thread, and that thread linked to this one. It's got so much awesome information, that I thought it was worthy of being bumped out of the archives. I'm not the first, however, as this thread has been bumped back out several times over the last two years.


Anyways, last night I started putting breastmilk in his ears every couple hours (every time he feeds). Interestingly, he stops fussing, crying and clawing at his little ear within a few minutes of putting the milk in. He's also far less fussy today than he was yesterday (so far). I'm not really sure how long to put milk in his ear to be sure the infection is gone; so I figure I'll do it for seven days (since antibiotics are usually a seven day thing).

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I wish I had seen this thread a few weeks ago...we ended up having tubes put in my ds's ears because he has excessive mucusy, nasty fluid that would not drain. We just took him back for a checkup and he STILL has the nasty stuff in there, his hearing is still impacted and I'm desperate to get it out of there. His speech is suffering. The Dr. prescribed some antibiotic drops, but I'm not willing to use them and feel there has to be a better way. Are any of these remedies safe to use since he now has the tubes in there??? My regular pediatrician has said we could try a little saline in there, but that's all she suggested. Any ideas???

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have you looked at food allergies? dairy is usually the main culprit. I took my DD off dairy and she hasn't had an ear infection since. She stopped snoring the next day. Prior to that, she had 9 ear infections in a 1.5 years.

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I have never heard of this until today but a friend just shared with me that she was advised by her nutritionist to use a dab of tea tree oil behind each ear, along the jaw line, on the neck/throat and the bottoms of the feet for her little one. She was given a prescription for antibiotics just yesterday but decided to consult with the nutritionist/homeopath to see what she might recommend. She joyfully shared with me today that she started seeing results within an hour of starting the homeopathic remedy & the tea tree oil. Just wanted to share.
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When tubes are put into the ear, the eardrum is also busted and it drains. Why is it so dangerous when the eardrum bursts naturally so it can drain?
Because when tubes are placed, they are surgically placed and done in a way to try to minimize scarring. If they work (and thats a big if, because we all know people where they fell out immediately), the infection never happens because the fluid drains off continuously.

IMO its dangerous to have an eardrum repeatedly rupturing, because: 1. it hurts like hell from what I hear and is not pleasant. 2. you've had an infection that likely hurt like hell leading up the the rupture. 3. repeatedly rupturing in different places across the tympanic membrane would likely lead to more scar tissue in the long run than one surgery and a small precise incision.

I personally think any parent who has a baby with recurrent ear infections should explore food allergies (dairy in particular). There is something like 50 different proteins in dairy, any one can be an allergy. Try eliminating all dairy and see what happens. It can't hurt.

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My 2y/o started playing in her ears last week. She is battling a head cold so it's understandable that maybe she's got something going on in her ears too. I was using a homeopathic in the hopes of helping her. I made her an appointment and she's got a double ear infection.

Monday morning, we visited the chiropractor and I've been doing some accupressure massage to possibly help with draining. I was hopeful that it was working.

Tuesday night before bed, she told me her right ear is hurting. I gave her some oral earache drops for pain and put some colloidal silver in her ear. She can't stand ear drops and started crying. She is sleeping peacefully.

What are my options if she doesn't like the treatment method or cooperate to do the ear drops? I've thought of warming olive oil and garlic since those will be warm but I haven't attempted it. How long do I continue to let her body work this out before resorting to the antibiotics? Do I need to use the antibiotic?

We've always had great success rates with the chiro adjustments anytime there was ear pain but this is the first time we've had ear pain, adjustment and then ear pain again the next night.

TIA, for your wisdom and support.
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Sorry she's having pain. I have not dealt with ear infections, just reading this thread for info, but are you doing other good immune boosting things, like sodium ascorbate? Do you have a homeopath you can call? Does she have a fever?
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Sorry she's having pain. I have not dealt with ear infections, just reading this thread for info, but are you doing other good immune boosting things, like sodium ascorbate? Do you have a homeopath you can call? Does she have a fever?
Momofmine,

Thank you. Yes, we are taking measures to boost the immune system with extra vitamin C and a probiotic daily. Because she still enjoys nursing, I am taking a garlic clove and some echinacea/goldenseal drops daily too. We have a nutritionist/homeopath that we see and I just emailed her to get her wisdom/guidance too. She had a mild fever on Saturday night but hasn't had anything since. The earache drops I have are for ear pain so it appears that they help her.
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