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Also wanted to comment on the ketosis topic. I read awhile back that when you are eating so much protien you produce a lot of ammonia as a byproduct, and candida feed on ammonia. Anyone heard of this? The source recommended eating carbs once or twice a week to give enough food to the good bugs. Would the low carb veggies suffice, I wonder?

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Anybody want to compare anti-candida diets?
This is what my homeopath suggested for us: (Aside from the obvious no sugar or yeast.)
No dairy or milk products.
No popcorn, peanuts or p.butter

Foods Allowed:
sweeteners such as stevia, sugar free cnady, murry's cookies' Hershey's sugar-free chocolate, sugar-free pudding.

rice cakes, Kavli crackers, Triscuits, corn chips, tortillas, potato chips, corn nuts

herbal teas, no more than 3 caffeine products a day

soy cheese, nut cheese, veggie cheese

all nuts except peanuts

All the *allowed* foods seem like a bunch of junk to me and a lot on this list has me

I'm on day 2 so I'll give it a go and see what happens. But I am going to do a *little* cheese because I just can't do without it.

I think it depends how strict you want to be about it. On the strict end of the spectrum, you eat only protien, low carb veggies, and good fats. This is what I am doing. But I know others have succes incorporating some low carb grains, nuts, and fermented dairy. I actually dont understand how a reeaallly aged cheese could have much lactose, but I guess the concern there is the mold? My *cheat*, which seems to come up about once a week, is a few soaked almonds I think the candida diet you use depends on your body and its needs for rebalance and detox?

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Wow Annikate, there's alot of crapola on that list! I go back to the SCD thing though. I believe aspartame is legal on the diet-that does not mean that it's advised or heathful, just that it isn't harmful or that it's contributing to the yeast/bacteria overgrowth. I did the SCD but never once ingested it. So take what's health promoting, leave what's not.

Saskia's mom- what I have learned is that we each have individual thresholds and you can't follow any book by the letter. You are correct about the protein thing. However it isn't all that relevant if I can eat 100 grams before reaching that point and you can only eat 50. KWIM? It's about the amount of protein your body deals well with-same with carbs. I found pH testing to be invaluable in this situation.
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Wow Annikate, there's alot of crapola on that list! I go back to the SCD thing though. I believe aspartame is legal on the diet-that does not mean that it's advised or heathful, just that it isn't harmful or that it's contributing to the yeast/bacteria overgrowth. I did the SCD but never once ingested it. So take what's health promoting, leave what's not.

Saskia's mom- what I have learned is that we each have individual thresholds and you can't follow any book by the letter. You are correct about the protein thing. However it isn't all that relevant if I can eat 100 grams before reaching that point and you can only eat 50. KWIM? It's about the amount of protein your body deals well with-same with carbs. I found pH testing to be invaluable in this situation.
No kidding about the crap, but now I'm finding myself imagining eating that artificially sweetened junk.

Please explain about the pH testing. I know dd & I have to make our bodies more alkaline right? So how did you use the saliva strips? and how did you do it? Did you test after rating certain foods or what? I'd love to try this.

Oh, and our intuitive friend confirmed for me yesterday that dd & I both have yeast. I didn't have the time to get details about this but she did confirm that we had chosen an excellent DAN doc for dd. We made this appt, 3 months ago & it's on the 16th of October.
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Please explain about the pH testing. I know dd & I have to make our bodies more alkaline right? So how did you use the saliva strips? and how did you do it? Did you test after rating certain foods or what? I'd love to try this.
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I use urine strips. I know you can get strips that are both for salivary and urine testing, but I think the urine is more accurate. I test in the morning before eating. I then will test throughout the day. I had the advantage (?) of testing myself with different diets so it was pretty clear what I should be eating. I tested as a high protein/fat raw vegan, as a low fat/protein raw vegan, as an omni that rarely ate meat and again as an omni that ate alot of meat. I tested after reading and doing the metabolic typing test and my results were consistent with that test.
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Interesting. I wonder if I could get an accurate sample from a diaper?
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I tested after reading and doing the metabolic typing test
??? Whu?

Selenium - how much do you take? How much in 2 brazil nuts?

Anyone for CLO recs? Nordic Naturals ok? (after reading about potential metal toxicity in some brands, such that WAPF is not recommending some they used to... )

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[QUOTE=firefaery;6078978]Wow Annikate, there's alot of crapola on that list! I go back to the SCD thing though. I believe aspartame is legal on the diet-that does not mean that it's advised or heathful, just that it isn't harmful or that it's contributing to the yeast/bacteria overgrowth. I did the SCD but never once ingested it. So take what's health promoting, leave what's not.



Aspartame is not legal on SCD and is very harmful.
Saccharin is legal. That's the only artifcial sweetener on SCD. Elaine did some research and concluded that saccharin is safe and the whole hoopla about it causing cancer is based on one vague rat study and that it's the aspartame industry who is trying to get it demonized.
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ff, he seems to think I've got an unhealthy focus on food, and that it's causing me to obsess about it. Not sure what else his concerns are, when I ask, he really won't say what he thinks I'm missing.
I hear you... same exact situ here
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Aspartame is not legal on SCD and is very harmful.
Saccharin is legal. That's the only artifcial sweetener on SCD. Elaine did some research and concluded that saccharin is safe and the whole hoopla about it causing cancer is based on one vague rat study and that it's the aspartame industry who is trying to get it demonized.
I know it's not legal on SCD. I've been doing SCD since January. I'm still mostly SCD but have recently added some grains. I am now doing anti-candida too (not because I have issues that I'm aware of, but my homeopath thinks I should do it for b'feeding dd.) I was just posting the anti-candida diet to see if anyone else thought it was a little ummm . . . *junky*? (I'm being sarcastic here.)
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I use urine strips. I know you can get strips that are both for salivary and urine testing, but I think the urine is more accurate. I test in the morning before eating. I then will test throughout the day. I had the advantage (?) of testing myself with different diets so it was pretty clear what I should be eating. I tested as a high protein/fat raw vegan, as a low fat/protein raw vegan, as an omni that rarely ate meat and again as an omni that ate alot of meat. I tested after reading and doing the metabolic typing test and my results were consistent with that test.
Is this the Dr. Mercola metabolic test you're speaking of? I was just readin g about the metabolic typing on his website. So ratios of protein/carbs/fat will directly affect your acid/alkaline balance? And we want to be Ph neutral? Do you have a website to recommend explaining this subject more? The one's I found were all selling something.

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Another thing to think about...how do you separate exhaustion from lack of sleep from not the right diet exhaustion? I always feel better when I get a nice 2 hour nap in the afternoon

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I went to whole foods today to get some ketone testing strips. I'm a bit nervous about how few carbs dd and I eat so I wanted to make sure we are ok in that dept. They said they don't carry those, just the ph ones. What would the ph ones do for us? I didn't get any.

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I like the book The Metabolic Typing Diet. It has a test in it, and Mercola has two as well. The free one just gives you an idea-it's not that in depth.

Sorry-it's been awhile since I read Elaine's guidlines and since I don't use any sweetener but honey and occasionally dates I remembered incorrectly. I don't tend to retain what is insignificant to me.
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I like the book The Metabolic Typing Diet. It has a test in it, and Mercola has two as well. The free one just gives you an idea-it's not that in depth.

Sorry-it's been awhile since I read Elaine's guidlines and since I don't use any sweetener but honey and occasionally dates I remembered incorrectly. I don't tend to retain what is insignificant to me.
Do you feel like finding your metabolic type has helped you tailor SCD to better work for you?

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BTW, the chiro told me my son needed more protein because on the SCd he had become so thin. I questioned him and found that he hadn't been eating the meat, only fruit, veggies, cheese and nuts & eggs. So that's why I think he got really thin, but I'm still not sure on that. Anyone else have trouble keeping weight on the SCD?
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No, the SCD worked for me before I did the MT test. It helped me figure out WHY it worked for me and confirm what I need to be doing.
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Annikate, ITA about that diet -- so full of junk and contradictory, too. Soy cheese? That has casein in it, you know. I know I have friends who have done similar diets, but that one just doesn't make sense to me. Sugar-free pudding and sugar-free chocolate have dairy in them. Triscuits have gluten in them -- very hard to digest -- and are so processed what possible nutrition can be gotten from them? Is it just to fill up?

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There is a list of candida diet no-no's in _Is This Your Child?_ by Doris Rapp. If anyone's interested, I'll post it later.

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Prior to starting the SCD diet I did the urine test strip and it didn't change at all...stayed yellow (acidic I believe). I took another one since I've done SCD for 8 weeks now...it was PERFECT! I know the SCD has worked great for my body!

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Awesome. hat was my experience too. My friend had me do one almost two years ago and I was following Eat to Live which means I was vegan and had maybe one serving of grain a day (usually not) and lived on veggies and beans. I was very acidic and my friend (a nutritionist) kept insisting I was eating a ton of refined floury products. Not at all. I should have been alkaline, but that wasn't the right diet for my body. The SCD gets me to where I should be exactly. Well, to be fair, no grains, lots of veggies and meat gets me where I need to be which is why SCD works for me.
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Selenium - too much = gi upset, hair loss, white blotchy nails, garlic breath odor. The *healthy* window is 200-600mcg. First number in chart is mcg per indicated ammount of food, second number is % daily value (according to rda)

Table 1: Selected food sources of selenium [11]

Brazil nuts, dried, unblanched, 1 ounce544780
Tuna, light, canned in oil, drained, 3 ounces6395
Beef, cooked, 3½ ounces3550
Spaghetti w/ meat sauce, frozen entrée, 1 serving3450
Cod, cooked, 3 ounces3245
Turkey, light meat, roasted, 3½ ounces3245
Beef chuck roast, lean only, roasted, 3 ounces2335
Chicken Breast, meat only, roasted, 3½ ounces2030
Noodles, enriched, boiled, 1/2 cup1725
Macaroni, elbow, enriched, boiled, 1/2 cup1520
Egg, whole, 1 medium1420
Cottage cheese, low fat 2%, 1/2 cup1215
Oatmeal, instant, fortified, cooked, 1 cup 1215
Rice, white, enriched, long grain, cooked, 1/2 cup1215
Rice, brown, long-grained, cooked, 1/2 cup1015
Bread, enriched, whole wheat, commercially prepared, 1 slice1015
Walnuts, black, dried, 1 ounce58
Bread, enriched, white, commercially prepared, 1 slice46
Cheddar cheese, 1 ounce46

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I want to try red peppers (specifically roasted fermented red peppers) but I am worried that they could make DS react. I feel like I have read that they are a highly allergenic food, is this correct or am I getting paranoid?

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red peppers are a nightshade, like tomatoes and potatoes, and a lot of people do have problems with them. I think you want to wait until your babe is a year old before introducing it, but I can't be sure. I know that's true with tomatoes, but it might be the acid in them.

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The nightshade family (tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, potatoes etc.) is very problematic for some people. I would avoid if you have known sensitivities for sure.
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Thank you, I have avoided the other nightshades up to this point too. The red peppers were for me , DS is starting only basic solids-turkey, lamb, parsnip, green beans, squash, peas, and sweet potato. He sure loves his solids! if I am eating he MUST eat or he throws a fit and he grabs at the food because we don't feed him fast enough

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First the good news - the LO has pooped once a day 4 days in a row!!!!! Still no seeds, but at least she's pooping. Now - on to my question - what do you think it means if I am suddenly yucked out by coconut oil? I mean the mere thought of it makes me want to hurl. And of course this is coming right after I just bought a 29 oz jar of it. I was pretty in love with it at the start of SCD a month ago. Anyway - would love your thoughts on if this is my body's way of saying to stay away or is there something else that could be driving this? It's one of my few sources of fat (doing no dairy) . . .
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First the good news - the LO has pooped once a day 4 days in a row!!!!! Still no seeds, but at least she's pooping. Now - on to my question - what do you think it means if I am suddenly yucked out by coconut oil? I mean the mere thought of it makes me want to hurl. And of course this is coming right after I just bought a 29 oz jar of it. I was pretty in love with it at the start of SCD a month ago. Anyway - would love your thoughts on if this is my body's way of saying to stay away or is there something else that could be driving this? It's one of my few sources of fat (doing no dairy) . . .
I would skip it for now. You may have just gotten too much of it and need a break. What about Ghee? Olive Oil? Palm oil? Do you eat meat? I got a duck several months ago and cooked out the duck fat. I still have it in my fridge and use it to cook in. It is super yummy.

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About us.

I tried a whey drink today. It didn't taste bad but now dd is wired at bedtime so I'm nervous that is why. We did have a strange day today though so I'm not sure what to think. I may be changing too many things at once.

We did another therapeutic bath last night. (healing from birth trauma). Tonight at dinner time she told a story about a nurse who was holding her and she cried and cried because she wanted some milk and then the nurse poked something in her face and then handed her to mommy. (DD was taken from me at birth and suctioned for meconium and then handed to me briefly before her trip to the nicu). She did insist that after she was handed to me she got to stay with me so I'm not sure what to make of it. DH and I were looking at each other through the whole thing trying to make sense out of it.

We just started the Reuteri. I'm impressed at it's supposed ability to colonize the gut unlike other lactobaccili. I'm so worn out by all of this lately.

And I think that DD has Sensory Integration Disorder. I'm not sure if it is obvious enough to get her free therapy for it though. I think that is why she doesn't sleep, nurses all the time, and a bunch of strange behaviors that she has that haven't ever made sense before. Yet another thing for me to research and try to help her with. I got a book with exercises we can do with her to help her. It makes a lot of sense but it is just one more thing to do...I just want us healed!

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