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I am getting worried about my 6 yo dd. She has been sick pretty much since Thanksgiving. She was down with a fever that whole weekend. After that, she had a cough for a while. All the while she's very stuffed up. Around new year's she got sick again, ran a fever for several days, was sick enough that I took her to the ped and she missed a whole week of school. She had strep and an ear infection. I agreed to abx to which she had an allergic reaction. We stopped the abx of course, and did not start another one. She was better but still very stuffed up, coughing. Since the strep/ear infection she's not hearing well - I attribute that to fluid in her ears. Yesterday her ear hurt a lot and she's really not hearing well at all. She is still extremely stuffed up. She has been active but complains about getting tired. She was awake for about 3 hours last night.

What to do? I am concerned about the hearing and the potential for hearing loss. She refuses garlic oil in her ears but will sometimes use warm compresses. I give her an EFA supplement as well as a whole food supplement, occasionally a daily vit, and vit C, extra when sick. Oh, and a probiotic.

Does it sound like an allergy? She's been blood tested for food allergies and does have a few sensitivities (to things she largely avoids).

Just a really really sick virus she can't shake? What would my ped likely say at this point? I am thinking of taking her back in this week.

My ds is in similar shape except he hasn't been really sick or had a fever. He is chronically stuffed up too. He failed a hearing test at his preschool last fall. We followed up at our ped and he still had fluid a month later so he hasn't been re-tested for hearing yet.

How do I get this fluid out of thier ears? How serious is it?

I guess I've reached that mommy point where the worry won't let go and I'd love to hear any advice or suggestions anyone has.

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For chronic fluid (It sounds as if that is your primary concern) I would do a few things. First, is your child consuming any dairy? If so, I would cut that to see if it helps.

I strongly suggest chiropractic to help with the fluid and prevent future infections. I saw graphs of tympanograms both before and after chiropractic adjustment and that is why I decided to try it with my son. If you can, I also recommend cranial therapy to drain the ears. I think in cases like this both are helpful for different reasons and my son has benefited from both. He had chronic fluid (and infections) and using chiropractic and cranial therapy has perfect tympanograms and only one ear infection in 1.5 years--with another great tympanogram following that one. They were recommending tubes for my son. I did also cut dairy and gluten as well.
Also you can learn massage to help drain the ears. Many chiropractors can show you but I'll try to explain. Always use downward strokes (toward neck). In front of ear, stroke from hairline down toward neck. Behind the ear, stroke from above the ear down the neck. Do both in front and behind the ear. I did this at least twice a day for my son. I honestly don't know how helpful it is but I learned some massages in Dr. Mary Ann Blocks book (about ear infections) to drain nose and sinuses that definitely work on me with a cold and she included the massages above too. You might check one of her ear infection treatment books for that information.
You asked if it is serious. I think it is since hearing is obviously impacted and this is continual. But serious doesn't necessarily mean you need tubes (which is what an ENT would do in this case). Try these things and I really think they will help.

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Great stuff! Thank you. I will make a chiro appt for her, and now that you mention the massage I do remember learning that when my ds was a toddler. I will start that right away.

As for dairy, she has about 1/2 cup milk a day (takes cereal in her lunchbox) and some cheese.

I wonder how I'd find a cranial therapist in my area? Maybe the chiro would know?

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Very good advice from the pp.

Also, you might consider removing all dairy from the diet. At last until dc is completely healthy again. Then you can see whether that is in fact the main culprit.


Here is a thread with homeopathic and other remedies for ear infections.


Do vaccines cause ear infections?
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i would second sbgrace's suggestions. we're in a similar situation with our 5-year old and we're trying a few things based on my research, our ped's suggestions and a family friend who is also a doctor with small children:

eliminate wheat and dairy for at least two weeks.

combination chiropractic/craniosacral therapy. we've only had one session just the other day and another one scheduled for next week.

acupuncture with a pediatric specialist. scheduled for tomorrow.

daily saline nose flushes. our ped cannot stress these enough...several times a day, every day.

elderberry/echinacea immune booster - daily until this current cold has passed.

drops of Wally's ear oil - contains garlic, mullein, tea tree oil. ped also suggested adding some glycerin to the drops. she said there is a current study finding that glycerin can help balance the pressure in the ears by drawing the fluid across the membrane (eardrum).

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I'm confused.

What is the difference between chiropractic and cranial therapy? I've been taking my 4 year old to a chiropractor for the fluid in his ears...but I think he's doing cranial therapy? He's not adjusting his head/ neck -- just putting his finger on the roof of my son's mouth and pressing repeatedly. Is there something else he could do because he hasn't been successful yet and I'm starting to get concerned about the fluid in my son's ears.
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Thanks for all the replies, and the link to the old thread gitti. I am trying most everything. We do the garlic drops, I've used grapefruit seed extract, and I took her to the chiropractor twice. We're doing massage and using warm compresses. She won't let me use the saline nose drops anymore. I also took her back to the ped -- her hearing loss just seemed so serious. anyway, the ped confirmed that her ears are full of fluid. In order to determine if the hearing loss is neurological, we have to have a hearing test. I'm going to take her to the county for that. In the meantime, we continue with the natural home remedies, and hope hope hope that the fluid drains. The ped also recommended an antihistamine to help clear her out. She said it's possible that the eustacean tubes are being compressed and that's why she isn't draining, and that some meds would help clear her out.

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Well, given that she has food allergies--have you cut dairy and gluten and other major allergens. Dairy is a biggie for a lot of ear issues. When my son had chronic fluid I took him to the chiropractor a minimum of two times a week and I did the massages religiously every day at least three times. He hated it. Cranial can help a lot too and my be more what you need? Just some thoughts to drain those ears.

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I'm confused.

What is the difference between chiropractic and cranial therapy? I've been taking my 4 year old to a chiropractor for the fluid in his ears...but I think he's doing cranial therapy? He's not adjusting his head/ neck -- just putting his finger on the roof of my son's mouth and pressing repeatedly. Is there something else he could do because he hasn't been successful yet and I'm starting to get concerned about the fluid in my son's ears.

That sounds like it could be either chiropractic or craniosacral therapy (when it comes to the skull, there is some overlap between the two professions). He *could* be adjusting his neck, but I can't tell you if he should be doing it or not. (because I haven't examined your ds)

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sigh. eliminating dairy and gluten. I would love to do that. But dd is a *very* particular eater, and truly only eats a very few things. cereal and toast being 2 main things. I know we really should make an effort in that area though.

I already stress and worry about her eating habits so much already.

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