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i am just really tired but its ok. no side effects yet and i think it will stay that way. i was pain free on my hip for about 2 hours before so that was great! i braced for pain getting out of my chair and all i felt was emptiness..no big huge pain. On a scale from 1-10 I would say 1 and then later a 2. It was an 8 last night. Right now i just feel very warm and tired, my left leg hurts a bit and the toes do too but thats normal for me lol. Its always usually the left side that hurts(leg, hip, toes etc) and coincidentally i got bit on my left thigh. But i feel ok for now. The side effects of the abx was tiredness and dizziness..im just really really tired, but again it could be the lyme making me tired.

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Hopefully its just the lyme dearie, I hope you start to feel
better and that it is effective for you infection.

Me, my cold is starting to let up...but i still feel awful, i dont
get sick that often. I cant staaaaand it.

what is it about fibro that makes the common cold
feel like the black plague?? :
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my mom has fibro, diagnosed a few years ago. I wonder if she has lyme also because 10 years ago she was bit by a tick, and I dont think she was ever tested. Maybe there is a connection?

I am sorry you are feeling badly. I hope you feel better soon!

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I'm about to celebrate my one year of lyme disease!

Since I don't like pharmaceuticals - don't like the short term or long term risks associated with them (and lets not go into environmental hazards of abx in the septic system!) I ended up trying the vit c/salt thingy and herbs. The vit c/salt did 'burn' a lot of bugs out (and gave me itchy skin to boot!) but I don't think that it slowed down the lyme disease progress at all. The herbs have been wonderful!! I am so glad that I have had lyme disease just because the herbs have been soo beneficial to my life. The main ones that I use are Japanese Knotweed (resveratrol from source naturals) and Astralagus. I used the Cat's claw for 6 to 7 months but didn't feel like it was doing anything at all, so I discontinued that. At one point I did investigate the Cat's Claw on 'steroids' that some lyme sufferers swear by, but I didn't like the possible muscle damage that it could cause (which I think is similar to the muscle damage which is possible with Doxycyline) so I never tried it. (am I way to cautious or what?)

About 2 months ago, I thought I was done with the nasty lyme organisms, so I slacked back on my dosage and drat it, the few remaining bugs came back. Sigh. So I know that it is in my left eye, and can affect my neck muscles occasionally. In the New Year I'll get tough again and beat this bug back into submission and hopefully annihilate it.

But, for those with it, I do recommend Stephen Buhner's book, Healing Lyme. I think that anyone with the disease, even using abx, would benefit from using one or two of his recommended herbs. Astralagus is now my favorite herb because it has my little brain working the best it has ever worked in my entire (almost) 40 years. (little note, astralagus is only good on early lyme disease - it will make lyme disease worse if you are in the late stages of the disease - read the book to understand.) And I don't know which herb is doing this, or if it is the combination, but my need to sleep has dropped. I've always been a 10 hours of sleep type gal, but now, I do great with 8 hours. So those herbs are fixing more than just a little bacterial infection.

oops, sorry to read like an herbal commercial.

Oh, and for me, caffeine caused major leg issues.
And detoxing is very important.

Jeanne - good to see you, in the past week when I've been playing here again, I haven't seen you at all! How's the bananas?
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Wow. That described Lyme diet is almost completely incompatible with the IBS diet (Irritable Bowel Syndrome). I would have to choose between near-constant gastrocolic reflux, constipation and pain or letting Lyme continue to affect me if diet were my only option for healing myself.

However, my Lyme symptoms are NOWHERE NEAR as bad as anyone else's on this thread. I was on the doxy 12 years ago, maybe I lucked out and we hit the correct window for zapping it.

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KermitMissesJim, do you still have symptoms now or have you been fine for that long? How long did you have lyme before you found out, do you think? I am just trying to see what everyone says maybe...get a rough idea, though I know everyone is different. I have had lyme over 2 years now, i know when i got bit. havent been treated at all till yesterday. I know the sooner you treat it the better. Should it take me longer on abx (along with homeopathic, probiotics and EPO and good nutrition) because I have had it so long? Just wondering.

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I was diagnosed in the late fall of 1995 after presenting with symptoms but no bulls-eye rash. Whatever test they were running 12 years ago came up positive. They assumed they caught it early as my symptoms were a crushing fatigue and joint pain but very little else. I did three weeks of oral doxy, had a follow up where the treatment was declared successful, and went home for the whole Christmas break to get some extra rest (mom and doctor thought it would be good for me, as I needed to graduate in the spring).

Fatigue-wise, I've never been the same again. BUT, I did have a nervous breakdown and suffer depression in 1997 (was working 80-hour weeks in high-pressure job), was in a very damaging car accident in 10/97, then got married in 1999, had ds in 2000, and have been a SAHM ever since. The fatigue could be related to my life in the last 12 years, and some of it is definitely caused by my IBS. It was about 18 months ago that I started looking around for causes for my symptoms (tingling hands, fatigue, serious gut problems) and some lyme articles came up in my search. However, since treating my IBS (diet and herbs), I am feeling better than I have in a long time, once you subtract the usual pregnancy fatigue.

So I don't really know. I could still have lyme, it could have been cured. It may never have been lyme at all.

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Since I don't like pharmaceuticals - don't like the short term or long term risks associated with them (and lets not go into environmental hazards of abx in the septic system!) I ended up trying the vit c/salt thingy and herbs. The vit c/salt did 'burn' a lot of bugs out (and gave me itchy skin to boot!) but I don't think that it slowed down the lyme disease progress at all

By progression, do you mean actual amount of bugs in your system
or them moving to different parts of the body? Yes it does ITCH!

Salt/C protocol is absolutely grueling, because it causes the bugs
to die quite violently and release allot of toxins into you. Some have
even reported seeing things come out of their skin trying to escape
the salinity of th body. I know several who have met much success
utilizing it with other protocols but it has taken at least a year or two.
Myself I'd rather just use all of them, i havent looked into the
herbs but so far, my protocol will look like this.

Traditional diet
Avoid allergy causing foods, sugar, and most carbs
MMS
Salt/C
Ambrotose/Immunostart
Dr. Rons glandulars,and vitamin
Rife therapy
Ozone therapy
DETOX with Epsom salt baths, clay, clorella (possibly enemas)

and possibly herbs, but i would want them to be high quality ...
i wouldnt be doing Astragaalus though because ive definitely
had it for years.
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By progression, do you mean actual amount of bugs in your system
or them moving to different parts of the body? Yes it does ITCH!
I did have a white 'thread' come out of my side about 30 hours into my high dosage of vit c/salt. and then there were many little bumps on/under my skin that itched - I assumed they were dead bugs. Herxes were pretty regular on the c-salt combo, which was fairly interesting and sometimes embarassing.

However, I felt the lyme continued its on-slaught, because when I began the lyme early in the second month of contamination (or late in the first month) my only symptoms were aching knee joints, the hideous itchy rash and being tired. After doing the c/salt for 3 weeks, I began to have mental issues - how odd to be two blocks from home, but turning the wrong way - and those heart palpations which scared me into moving on to the herbs.

A great herb for chelating heavy metals is cilantro, which is easy to grow at home (high quality organic), and is yummy too. However, if you do have a heavy metal problem, you will know it, cuz the headache is rather painful.

Dr. Schulze has a great detox tea, which I believe helped me. I think that his webpage is herbdoc.com.

A couple other things that has helped is, Vit B for mental stability, Magnesium for muscle cramps and, when I did the c/salt I mixed it with psyllium husk which gave me an excellent colon cleanse. (i was just trying to protect my tummy...) A decent Vitamin/mineral product I used was All One, which my dh and I had been taking before my intoduction to lyme. I'm sure that product helped, but I've stopped taking it because I'm doing fine without it.

As a curious person, I'm interested in the Rife machine, but lack the $ and need for it.

Do check into Japanese Knotweed/Source Naturalsbrand, Resveratrol. The herb does many good things, and is one of the safest herbs out there. If you are interested in more information on it, message me.
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Thank you very much, i will add those herbs to my list. : )

They aren't stimulants are they?
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My ND found and is treating me for spiroketes but I'm not sure if that qualifies me as having Lyme. I definitely have some of the symptoms (for about 1 year now) and all of my attempts to improve my situation have done little. My dh said that the more I've tried and the healthier I've started eating and supplementing, the sicker I've become. Anyway, just wanted to introduce myself and let you all know that I appreciate all the info.
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If I only do 3 weeks of abx, and still am in pain, do I still need to see a dr and have more? Im getting to the point of not caring. I cant find a lyme specialist dr who is taking new patients. Ive been on abx a week and i find at times im getting worse. I am also still doing EPO and probiotics. I see the homeopath next week. I plan on an epsom salt bath too, cant hurt. If i never get another abx will i get rid of this? Ive had it 2 years without treatment until a week ago. its actually been over two years. Im sorry, im just really shaky and irritable today. Doesnt help that every dr i call either gives me an attitude about my insurance or says they arent accepting new patients.

Trying to find the peace within.....making friends with my spirochetes.

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I know many who are getting better and living normally
again. But most of them are going alternative route.

Have you checked ILADS? Thats how i found my llmd.
I havent even yet seen him though yet. Hopefully
soon.

Again the people i know who have done well with abx,
have needed to take them longer than the "usual"
prescribed time frame. I am not an abx expert though,
and you are probably herxing from the abx.

If you are interested in adjuncts ( other therapies)
I highly recommend you check out some of the groups
i posted in my pp. Good luck I hope you find what you
are looking for.
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I have looked on LLMD and they are either too far away or not accepting new patients. Im still searching other states on there though.

I just dont know if I should bother with anything if this isnt going to go away ever. ive had it 2 years already, not treated. Back to my research

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Thank you very much, i will add those herbs to my list. : )

They aren't stimulants are they?
In what way? lol I'd be shocked if Resveratrol kept you awake or made you hyper. It does have a drug interaction with blood thinning agents and for other reasons should not be used in pregnancy. (but don't they all say that?) There are possible side-effects but they are minor, dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, diarhhea.

Here is a good link: http://www.acuherbology.com/newsItem...&returnTo=news check out herb #3
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I just dont know if I should bother with anything if this isnt going to go away ever. ive had it 2 years already, not treated. Back to my research
don't know what to say, except:
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I posted in the adrenal fatigue thread because my naturopath told me adrenal fatigue was most likely my issue, today I here that Lymes is also right at the top of the list.
My symptoms are so severe. Some days I just hope to make it through the day and get some loving time in for my kiddos.
The symptoms that are getting me are facial numbess, plus numbness and tingling, sometimes pain in my arms and legs/feet.
I also get very shaky and feel that my insides are trembling. This especailly happens when I eat bananas, I just figured this out.
I have such a long list of symptoms and now I have terrible food issues. I had the ELISA panel done and found a handful of foods I can no longer eat.
I did eliminate gluten, dairy and eggs and much of the bone pain feelings I had have gone.
When I stand up I get dizzy and feel like I'll pass out. I can't sleep at night, I wake up and feel sick, like shaky and passing out also, does that seem possible, I'm sleeping, lol.
My brain is so foggy I can't seem to remember the smallest things and I say the wrong words.
My kids and husband at first thought this funny, then they became concerned.
I know I'm thinking the right word, but another off the wall word comes out of my mouth.

I've been ill since an accident in March of 2006.
A Dr recently told me that I had EBV at one point, but whenever my symptoms are really severe I get tested and NO EBV. MY whole family tested positive for EBV at one point as I'm sure would everyone I know.
So now I'm having tests done for adrenal fatigue, thyroid, and Lymes.
My doctor did suggest labs that I have seen mentioned here, so I feel confident.

I have five little ones. One boy in remission from Leukemia and one with anaphylactic allergy to nuts, so it is already difficult to shop for food.
I just want to be a normal mama again, or rather who I was before since there really is no normal, lol.
I'm tired, I have no energy, my husband misses me and my kids need a mom.
I'm so glad to have found this site again.
I feel like I'm getting better and then I'm knocked down again. It's a vicious cycle.

I do take samento, n acetyl cysteine, dgl,circulation factors(poor circulation and reynauds)EPA/DHA, and a few others.
I eat all natural whole foods plus meat, which is new to me when I married.I was sort of a vegan with dairy and eggs.I avoid sugar with only the occasional apple. All processed foods or most anyway give me terrible reactions. I'm being tested for celiac as well.
There is so much more, but I think you get it, lol.
May I ask how you make this easier to read and not look like a book, he he.
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I just dont know if I should bother with anything if this isnt going to go away ever. ive had it 2 years already, not treated. Back to my research
Well very few people on that group have treated it right away, most
have had it for as long or way longer than you have, and many
are doing really good. I have also heard some people getting
better with abx after having it a long time but they had to be
on them a long while.
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Back when i listed my symptoms and said i had strep 4 times in the last year and a half...and someone asked if it was strep or relapse...i have something interesting to note that I just remembered.

Could it totally not have been strep? I think i had to be though because i did test positive for strep. BUT...i knew i was getting strep when A.) id get sore throat that wasnt "normal" and B.) i would feel "wiggling" on my lip. id feel these things wiggling and burning on one corner of my lip. Then later as it progressed, id feel wiggling and burning in my throat. it felt like tiny worms, tiny worms with hot sauce LOL!. every time i got strep i felt that. ONLY one time when I got strep (back in april of this year, the last time i got strep) did it mangle my lips so bad that i have nerve damage on one side of my lip. I am numb on that side and from time to time it bothers me. What happened was that the strep attacked, and i formed blisters on my lips. One blister was horrible...went very deep into the lip. Didnt heal for 2 months. Could that have been the lymes? Going out on a limb here, but does strep wiggle? lol. just thought of it and thought id post.

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[LEFT]I posted in the adrenal fatigue thread because my naturopath told me adrenal fatigue was most likely my issue, today I here that Lymes is also right at the top of the list.
As I read your post in the AF thread, Lyme crossed my mind, but honestly, AF really came to mind.

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I also get very shaky and feel that my insides are trembling. This especailly happens when I eat bananas, I just figured this out.
This really struck me! Have you read the whole adrenal thread? Bananas are very high in potassium - potassium competes with sodium in our bodies - people with adrenal fatigue are very low in sodium & have a very hard time staying hydrated because of the sodium/potassium imbalance.

Let me go look up exactly what I wrote on the adrenal thread....

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Dehydration is a biggie for AF patients. We have a problem with the sodium/potassium ratio (why we shouldn't eat potassium rich foods & need lots of salt.) I know when I first wake up in the morning, all I want to do is chug down 2 pints of water, but I have to wait until I get a good amount of salt in my system.
When I first wake in the morning, I cook eggs & salt them very heavily - after I eat them, then I can drink water, but plain water on an empty stomach is a no-no. We need *a lot* of salt. You'd be surprised how many people suffer unknowingly from some degree of adrenal fatigue - especially us sleep deprived mamas.
And here's my post about licorice's role regarding the sodium/potassium imbalance in adrenal fatigue in post #34:

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The licorice extract inhibits 11 beta hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (11-BHOD) in the kidneys. 11-BHOD is the enzyme that inactivates cortisol. People with adrenal insufficiency do not retain enough sodium, and have an excess of potassium. The ratio between our body's sodium & potassium is like a seesaw. If one goes up, the other is down. Blocking 11-BHOD in the kidneys allows cortisol access to the mineralocorticoid receptors triggering an increased retention of sodium and a lowering of potassium. This action brings a person with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome into sodium/potassium balance, therefore, supplementing these individuals with otassium is not needed nor recommended.
The increased sodium causes the body to conserve water, which quickly increases your overall blood volume. Increased blood volume indirecty increases blood pressure by increasing the efficiency of the heart.
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Well very few people on that group have treated it right away, most
have had it for as long or way longer than you have, and many
are doing really good. I have also heard some people getting
better with abx after having it a long time but they had to be
on them a long while.
I think 4 months is the minimum, but really, only *your* individual response to treatment is the deciding factor in when to cease treatment. Keeping a *daily* log of your symptoms is key (whether treating it with abx or holistically) because you'll be able to track the cyclical nature (flares) which should cease when you've healed.

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I got in touch with our local ND and she told me that cephalosporin was "interesting" and to stop nursing the 2 year old, shes had a good start and circumstances are now less than ideal. The last time someone told me to quit BF cold turkey I did and my dd suffered horribly. I think I just had some kind of flashback lol because I got scared id have to quit when we werent ready. She also told me that there is no proof of lyme being transferred via breastmilk. I dont know and my head is spinning, its hard to concentrate, so I have almost no clue what im doing.

Should I quit BF? I dont want to. Id rather quit the abx. Maybe this ND doesnt understand BF. I have never been able with my other 3 to extended BF. My first baby decided at 6 months he didnt want it. Then my dd and I quit too early because a dr told us to. (I was so stupid!) then my 16 month old dd decided to quit as Id chase her around the house asking if she wanted more milk lol. She was done so i had to accept it and did actually---we were both ready I suppose, so that was ok. But now, yes sometimes having her nurse too much is annoying that i will admit. I could do with nighttime and morning nursing and all day without. But to make her quit when shes not ready...ugh. Already when I tell her I cant nurse her right when she wants me to because im sore or whatever, dont feel good etc, she has a complete fit. Is cephalosporin that dangerous that I should not have been nursing her this long? I am in a fog this morning and cant breathe...my day is not starting off well.

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I got in touch with our local ND and she told me that cephalosporin was "interesting" and to stop nursing the 2 year old, shes had a good start and circumstances are now less than ideal. The last time someone told me to quit BF cold turkey I did and my dd suffered horribly. I think I just had some kind of flashback lol because I got scared id have to quit when we werent ready. She also told me that there is no proof of lyme being transferred via breastmilk. I dont know and my head is spinning, its hard to concentrate, so I have almost no clue what im doing.

Should I quit BF? I dont want to. Id rather quit the abx. Maybe this ND doesnt understand BF. I have never been able with my other 3 to extended BF. My first baby decided at 6 months he didnt want it. Then my dd and I quit too early because a dr told us to. (I was so stupid!) then my 16 month old dd decided to quit as Id chase her around the house asking if she wanted more milk lol. She was done so i had to accept it and did actually---we were both ready I suppose, so that was ok. But now, yes sometimes having her nurse too much is annoying that i will admit. I could do with nighttime and morning nursing and all day without. But to make her quit when shes not ready...ugh. Already when I tell her I cant nurse her right when she wants me to because im sore or whatever, dont feel good etc, she has a complete fit. Is cephalosporin that dangerous that I should not have been nursing her this long? I am in a fog this morning and cant breathe...my day is not starting off well.
This is why I weaned Dd2 when she was 3.5 years old. I was tandem nursing Ds who was 8 weeks & Dd2 who was 3.5 yrs. I had Lyme symptoms & was actually clinically dx'd & had suspicious results from IGeneX, but not a positive.

I believe that it can be passed via breastmilk, the Lyme bacteria *HAS* been cultured in breastmilk & the top pediatric Lyme specialist in the world (Dr. J. in CT) claims to have witnessed it.

So, with the information that I had then, back in June of 2006, I weaned Dd2 on June 7, 2006. I wasn't ready. It was difficult because I literally couldn't sit down for 3 weeks. Anywhere.

I couldn't wean Ds because he was 8 weeks old. What if he already had it? He would need the best immune system I could give him which means breastmilk! Or, what if I weaned him & then he got bitten? Again, he'd need a strong immune system!

Many people also question the safety of raw milk. We drink it all of the time. SOme believe it can be passed through raw cow's milk while others believe that the cow would make antibodies that would protect us (which is what I choose to believe, maybe not very wisely.)

I have read of people, doctors, who have injected the lactating cow's udder with the Lyme bacteria & then milked the cow for her colostrum & have been healed from Lyme. It makes perfect sense, doesn't it? So why wouldn't it work for us?

It's really a personal decision. I go back & forth on the issue, thinking that Motehr Nature wouldnt allow this flaw in her system - but we've messed with Her system for so many years now that it's flawed in & of itself.

I wonder how vaxing comes into play here - my son wasn't vaxed at all, therefore his immune system is completely intact, that has to have an affect on what gets through, yk?

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Have you tested your ds for lyme? Just curious if he did end up getting it. I have not yet tested dd3 because i cant get a doctor to do it, but the ND said she will. I will see her next week.

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I'm so glad you girls are talking about this.

In 7 months, I'll give birth. I am currently having relapses. Been on antibiotics for 4 months - 2 to go.

I want so badly to breastfeed! But the info is SO sketchy either way.
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Ok, Ladies. The woman whose email address I was hoping to offer says that's fine. But she doesn't want the email actually in the forum.

Angelpie, I know you need her help. Anyone else? I'll PM it to you.
I could use her help. You can pm me with her email address . DS8 has lyme and is on abx and I think I may have it. I have an appt in feb.

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In regards to stopping BFing, I had to stop when I started taking the cats claw. My daughter was 2 years 4 months. I was more upset than she was, but she was not without repercussions. I looked at it like this: I knew that I had to get well if I was going to be an effective mother. As much as I wanted to continue to BF, there was no way that in order for me to get well, I could continue BFing because it is taxing on a body, especially a body that is trying to fight bacteria off and get well. So, I, in effect, put on my game face and have concentrated all my efforts on getting well so that I can be a better mommy, even though I am not BFing, which alone does not make me a good mother. I completely understand the emotions involved in wanting to child led wean, but this was just the hand I was dealt and I could not dwell on it.

There are lots of other ways to build your baby's (and yours) immune systems. I cannot stress enough the importance of diet. I am starting to actually live and want to live again. I was honestly trying to think of who was going to care for my children in the event of my death. I was so low, emotionally and physically.

Lyme is a horrible, horrible thing to have to fight off. But, you can fight it off. There is hope, you just have to determine that this bug is not going to get the better of you (not easy ) and start taking steps to heal.

I am not trying to sound preachy at all. I just want anyone who is feeling like there is no way to get better, know that you can.

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Even if you cannot breastfeed I dont think you should think of yourself any less of a mom.

Its just so hard. She either has it or doesnt from me breastfeeding for 2 years without knowing I was infected. I dont want to stop yet. She will be my last baby since the development of lyme and I dont want to give up yet.

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Even if you cannot breastfeed I dont think you should think of yourself any less of a mom.

Its just so hard. She either has it or doesnt from me breastfeeding for 2 years without knowing I was infected. I dont want to stop yet. She will be my last baby since the development of lyme and I dont want to give up yet.
I understand. You are right. I am not any less of a mom, but it sure did feel that way at the time. I breastfed for at least 8 months with lyme (unknowingly) and if I had gone on abx, I would have continued to BF. However, with the cats claw, my ND suggested (strongly ) that I stop BFing. I sure do miss the closeness, though.

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I get mad at myself also--for weaning dd2 when she was only 8 months old. A dr told me to--cold turkey and let the baby cry. I cried too with ice packs on my chest. It was terrible and horrible. I did feel like a bad mom----but i realized Im not really. It was what I was destined to do and my dd was destined to have that happen for a reason. everything we go through, horrendous and nice, are supposed to happen for a reason. We may not always know that reason though and to feel pain we always question why us? Painful and unpleasant things like this happen to all of us and we should not be shamed for it, there is always a reason.

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