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Has anyone had hemorrhoids treated this way? Did it work? Is it a scam? How much did it cost? Did your insurance cover it? I would rather nt have surgery - but that is waht I am looking at, at this point. but I keep seeing ads for this, but it sounds to good to be true (realtively speaking - nothing is good with hemorrhoids When I google, I don't find much in the way of real testimonials, just ads.

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nobody knows anything about this? I guess it IS a scam...
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I am desperate for some info about this technique. Anyone?
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judt bumping - hoping someone has some info...nak
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still desperate for some opinions....
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just bumping - I keep hoping that I will bump it at just the right moment and someone will have some real info for me...
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I felt bad that your thread had no replies so I did some Googling for you. It looks like a legitimate technique!

http://www.healthscout.com/ency/68/168/main.html

Why don't you ask your health care provider about it? It sounds like the type of thing for which you might need referral to a specialist.

Best of luck! Hemorrhoids suck.
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I felt bad that your thread had no replies so I did some Googling for you. It looks like a legitimate technique!

http://www.healthscout.com/ency/68/168/main.html

Why don't you ask your health care provider about it? It sounds like the type of thing for which you might need referral to a specialist.

Best of luck! Hemorrhoids suck.
Hi Norasmom! Thanks for your help. I did ask two different care providers about it (GI and Internist), neither had any info abouit it - the gi even claimed to have not even heard of it. I have been a candidate for surgery for 4 years now - but did not want to do that. I finally called the Hemorrhoid relief center in my area yesterday (the ones I use to get the ads for in the mailer for inraredcoagulation) only to find out that they closed both offices. I just would really like some first hand experience form someone I "know". IRL, I know of two people who have had hemroidectomy (sp), thats all. I really don't want to have surgery.

Thanks againm,, naking
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It's so annoying when doctors haven't heard of something you bring up at an appt., especially when it is a recognized treatment for a common affliction - they are supposed to be the experts! (Don't doctors ever Google? )
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Maybe you could contact a teaching hospital or some other research type of medical center and see if they're familiar with it. It seems like the researchers are often more cutting-edge than the practitioners in the field.

Good luck to you.
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Are they internal, then?
I'm not sure about this procedure but I *think* a woman I know had it done. I know she had some sort of laser procedure done after she delivered her daughter and she said it was the best thing she ever did.

I SO feel your pain. I get wicked 'rhoids when I'm pg and post partum. This time around they got thrombosed and had to be lanced. Yeah. That was a fun day.

GL, mama.
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Bactivist,

I too feel bad that you haven't received much help on this, so I created an account and would like to offer some help. I work in a clinic that does this procedure and have done extensive research on all types of hemorrhoid treatment as I am preparing a presentation on it. I only use clinical studies to find my information and would like to inform you that there are several studies out there discussing Infrared Coagulation.
Here are links to a couple studies;
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1442682
http://semj.sums.ac.ir/vol5/apr2004/infrared_coag.htm
There are many more out there, just google infrared coagulation, success rates, and see what you find.
Feel free to check out the company I work for's website as well, there is a lot of good information on it. www.MountainStreamsMedical.com We are in the Denver and Colorado Springs areas.
I just read a book too, titled HEMORRHOIDS: A BOOK FOR SILENT SUFFERERS
Dr Jagar, wrote the book and has been in the colorectal field for a long time. This is the treatment that he reccomends as well. I would reccommend that any one with problems buy it. It is a little out dated (it calls IRC, IPC for Infrared PhotoCoagulation, but it is the same thing). I paid 1 cent for it on Amazon.com. Also, if you have any questions e-mail me at Mark@MountainStreamsMedical.com and I would be happy to try and assist you in a quick manner. I understand how formidable the condition is and enjoy helping people with their problems and questions about the condition. However, I must tell you, I AM NOT A PHYSICIAN, and will not be able to give you medical advice.
Good luck to all of you, I'm glad to see you all forming a support community on here! Below is excerpt of the presentation I am putting together that you may find helpful...
Finally we reach Infrared Coagulation or IRC. IRC has boomed in popularity and is currently the most widely used treatment for internal hemorrhoids. IRC consists of several short bursts of infrared light that are delivered to the base of the hemorrhoid via a long wand. IRC has the ability to control the precise position of the healing scar tissue, but unlike Laser Coagulation which has been all but abandoned, IRC also controls the amount of tissue to be destroyed. Not only does the scar tissue truncate the flow of blood to the hemorrhoid, it also acts as a “spot weld,” anchoring the sagging tissue of the hemorrhoid to the underlying muscular connective tissue. IRC is a staged treatment, requiring a few visits to get the optimal result. Like RBL, it is done above the dentate line; therefore no anesthesia is required for the treatment. No serious complications have ever been documented with this treatment, however complications do include minor bleeding a week to two weeks after treatment. IRC has been proven effective in patients that have not responded to other treatments such as Sclerotherapy or even hemorrhoidectomy.
There are many advantages of using IRC as first line treatment for hemorrhoids as well as a few disadvantages. One of the advantages of using IRC is that you can adjust the exposure time to finely tune the instrument so that it only destructs as much tissue as is necessary. Also, IRC allows for a quick out-patient procedure since the coagulation time is roughly one second. IRC does not interfere with electromagnetic devices such as pacemakers, and does not cause non-contact coagulation that occurs with some other coagulation therapies. IRC also can be used to treat multiple hemorrhoids at one time and offers a more comfortable treatment than Sclerotherapy and RBL. Disadvantages include multiple treatments and the fact that expensive apparatus and required skill limits the choice of physician that can effectively perform this procedure.
As far effectiveness, most studies suggest that IRC has a success rate of 85 to 90%. A recent study reported in May of 2000 by the European Journal of Gastroenterology and Hepatology says the success rate is 92% on a 2-5 year scale. Of course the success rate has a direct correlation to patient cooperation. Our physician addresses the possible causes of the patient’s condition as well as the patient’s diet, hydration, and physical activity.

Good luck to all! And even if you don't use IRC, please seek medical attention if you have hemorrhoid like symptoms!!! It's not always hemorrhoids, it could be something more severe!!!! Plus, the sooner you get it checked out the more likely you will be able to use less invasive treatments to treat the condition.
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