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#361 of 567 Old 02-06-2005, 03:24 PM
 
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Goodpapa Ray,
Thanks for the info. I just drink it in and try to learn all I can to help my dd. You've been a wonderful source of help.
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Golden, it does sound like a temp problem. That's what my yogurt did periodically when I used my gas oven and couldn't maintain temp.

Goodpapa, I so agree with you about sunlight. It is so important. There was an article in Scientific American on this very subject (Vit D absorption and people who move their native latitudes and suffer from not enough sunlight).

People think I'm crazy here, but I get the kids out every day to get their 20 minutes minimum of sunlight, as low as the sun is.

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OK, so I've had a jar of water in the yogurt maker all day. I've checked it quickly about once an hour. Temp ranges from 109 -115. Isn't that what it should be?

So going to just using jarro powder. If I use the jarro baby powder, how much for 7 little jars? Do you sprinkle it in and whisk it a bit? I know Ray you mentioned making a potent batch just from jarro and making a full batch from that. So do you just make one jars worth of milk and then add jarro to it? How much for one jar?

The other thought I had about my two failed batches, one from yogurt and jarro and the other just from jarro, is that maybe coincidentally, I have dead bugs. The stonyfield yogurt was fresh and the jarro powder I opened last week.
I don't know. I'm stumped. Maybe I'm killing the bugs by gently whisking in the yogurt and the jarro?
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Bumping this back to the first page
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Hey. I just spent hours and hours reading this thread and all the links! I just wanted to say thanks for the education. I have taken notes and bookmarked the thread for further review, as my brain is too tired to have absorbed so much info well. I have been making yogurt for some time now but started w regular organic yogurt...I'll be up at the HFS first thing Weds (10%off day ) to look for the "GOOD STUFF." Can't wait to taste (and feel) the difference. Thanks again mamas and papa!
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I've been trying to read this thread and have read it several times before (months ago). I'm wondering if anyone has experience with candida in adult men?? Please read my other post here to see what I'm referring to. I am thinking he has some issues related to this/leaky gut syndrome. I think I'm going to put him on the candida diet. (Where do I find recipes??) Any thoughts?
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Hey, I just reviewed this whole thread and couldn't see where this question was answered (I may have missed it as I kept getting called away):
How many batches can you do w the original starter? I mean, if I culture initially w the Jarro and then use that to start the next batch, then the next...you know what I mean. So how many batches before I need to use more Jarro?
Thanks, and sorry if this info is already in the thread somewhere.
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More evidence you should be making your own probiotics:
http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/co...onspiracy.html
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Bump for the Eczema Tribe. Check out the link in JaneS post right before this one if you're interested in the difference in number of bugs between probiotic capsules and yoghurt/kefir made at home.
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Hi Mon

I want to add that quote you mentioned from Elaine Gottschall too,

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"Homemade yoghurt that is fermented for 24 hours, as recommended in the book Breaking the Vicious Cycle, will have an average concentration of 3 billion cfu/mL of yoghurt".
http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.i...otic_count.htm

Meaning 1 tsp. of yogurt would contain 15 billion organisms. I don't even think there is a capsule on the market can claim that much.

One batch of homemade yogurt contains more probiotics than one entire bottle of probiotic capsules (at $15 - 20 a bottle!?)
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Jane ,
Glad to see you chiming in!
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Bump for SEEPAE!
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I have all the raw goat's milk from my mom's milking doe that I want and my mom made some yogurt and said it makes Stonyfield taste like crap. I guess it's some pretty darn good stuff and she doesn't get hungry as quickly as when she eats Stonyfield lowfat yogurt. I have a piece of Rowe Pottery specifically designed to make yogurt so I'm going to try it.

I'm planning to start the Maker's Diet as soon as I can finish the book and I want to get my gut back in order. I used to have an iron stomach, but no more. And my dad has an auto-immune disorder so I'm concerned about keeping my body healthy, especially since I was formula fed after 2-3 months old and completely vaxed (my parents do regret that!).

Tons of info here... thanks goodpapa!
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Do any of you know if kombucha has positive probiotic "powers" like kefir, etc. Or is it only the milk-based ferments? I have my first batch of kombucha brewing now & am curious if it could be a replacement for kefir or if its properties are not probiotic, if I'm making any sense..... Thanks.
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Bump for Matt and Shari !
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Just bringing this back up to the front!

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What do you do if your DD won't eat yogurt regularly?

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You could blend it with fruit and honey to make a smoothie. You could also freeze this mixture in trays with popsicle sticks - the bugs will survive. I mix dd's yoghurt with honey and give it to her in a bottle which she gladly SUCKS down . You could add some herbs/salt and make it into a veggie dip or salad dressing. You could add honey and dip fruit into it. I mix mine in granola instead of milk . Hope this helps.

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hello all!

i am trying to read through this thread and am on page 13. i will try and finish tonight. but i wanted to post a couple of questions while i am thinking about it.

first a comment really. someone on here was talking about the girmi yogurt maker. i bought one after looking at the different ones, and it seemed like the easiest. i eat a lot of plain organic yogurt but it still doesn't keep the yeasties away so i was hoping if i culture my own i would get more benefits. i also take probiotics in a pill form but the other night i ate a bowl of ice cream (first one in a LONG time), and then BAM, yeast. i drink smoothies with fruit juice and fruit which has a lot of sugar and i seem to be able to tolerate those. i'm not sure what to use as a starter. i think i will start with store bought yogurt until i decide. plus the trip to the health food store is kind of a drive if i wanted to buy a starter.

second, i just started drinking kefir- store bought. wow it is a strong flavor and different consistency. i am going to try to get used to it b/c it has so many different bacteria and i need all the help i can get.

any tips?
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oh ya now i remember my ? about kefir

why do you need to take it first thing in the morning? i have to take my thyroid med on an empty stomach and an hour after that i'm starving for a real breakfast. can i take it another time of day? maybe a smoothie will help with the taste.

also could my son drink a kefir smoothie? he is one. for some reason i feel weird about giving it to him. maybe just b/c it is new to me. i felt weird about giving him probiotic powder at first and that cleared up his thrush so well. i swear by it now.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goodpapa
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This is catagorically NOT the case. We are well hydrated and often have an early morning pee.
hey i'm glad i'm not the only one. i thought maybe there was something wrong with me but i drink A LOT OF WATER. when my son was nursing, he would wake me up at night to nurse. then by that time i was wide awake (couldn't just drift back off like in the early months). so i would get up, pee and get a snack!

i also like bananas in my yogurt ray. just b/c it was yummy. i had no idea it was beneficial
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Nicole,
You could use probiotic powder to start your yoghurt or another yoghurt - Stoneyfield is one I've used. I also use Yogourmet starter that I order from www.lucyskitchen.com
Kefir should be fine for a one year old, but the kefir gurus are on the nutrition forum. Mountainmom and Galeforce are usually on that thread and have good advice. There is a thread on the nutrition forum "NT thread for July" that is filled with kefir lovers. NT stands for Nourishing Traditions which is a book by Sally Fallon.
Girimi should work well.
Good luck.
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Okay, I just had to post that I am about where I LOVE my yogurt plain! This is huge for me as I have always been a big big sugar addict. But, I've been making smoothies in the morning with raw milk (LOVE that too!), my yogurt (made with organic milk), flax seed, spirulina, barley grass powder and fruit (banana, strawberries and sometimes mango). One morning I forgot the honey and realized I liked it anyways. Then, when mixing some yogurt, honey, and flax seed for my dh, I licked the spoon after scooping some yogurt into the bowl and thought, wow, this tastes pretty good! I am so excited ... I actually have stopped craving sugar and now crave home made yogurt mixed with raw milk and fresh fruit/veggies. I just wanted to share that ... since this is probably the only place that would really appreciate it (MDC that is).

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yes, i know what you mean. i actually remember saying a year ago that i wanted to start eating plain yogurt but couldn't get over the taste. i started by putting it in smoothies and now i can just eat it plain or maybe with some almond butter or bananas.
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I have a question....

I started taking probiotics (2X a day) myself a couple of weeks ago, when I had to give my DD antibiotics for an infection in her belly button. So now it turns out she has to have surgery and will get large amts. of antibiotics during and after the surgery, and has also been put on a low dose antiobiotic until the day of the surgery (about 3 wks from now). So I began giving her the BabyJarro brand last week. I started her on 1/8 tsp. and increased to 1/4 tsp. after several days. Now it seems to be giving her more frequent bowel movements. She usually goes every other day, but now with the higher dosage of the BabyJarro, she seems to be going 1-2X a day. Is this a normal side effect of probiotics or should I lower the dosage??? Also, what is the correct dosage for a 4 month old? Should I change either my dosage or hers??? I just want to make sure she's getting enough since she's going to be on antibiotics for a few weeks and I don't want it to totally screw up her system. This thread has been a great read... thanks for all the helpful info.
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Bklyn mom -
It is an excellent idea to give your dd probiotics. I have found it most beneficial to give probiotics three times per day. Start with a small amount if you increase to 3x . You'll know that you are giving too much if her stools are runny.

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I would love to have yogurt again. Especially for the probiotics. And I'd love to give it to dd. But, I am still breastfeeding dd who is anaphylactic to milk. I have heard that if it's cultured properly, milk allergic people can tolerate it, but I'm too afraid to try it. (The same week we found out about her dairy allergy, one of her playmates had one bite of yogurt, went into anaphylactic shock and almost died.)
We can't do soy yogurt either or goat's milk. So, does anyone know if it's possible to make yogurt from coconut milk? I've heard that rice milk yogurt doesn't turn out too well, besides coconut milk has healthy fats. And what about breastmilk? I only get about 1 1/2 oz per pumping so I'd really rather do coconut milk but I could pump frequently.
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I asked the exact same question about breastmilk yoghurt when I was dying to get probiotics into my babe who I thought was "allergic" to everytihing. She never had an ana type reaction. I think you are very wise not to chance it . There is a recipe for nut milk yoghurt (which I would not suggest since it is a high allergen) on the following link under the recipe section. You could try this and just substitute the coconut milk. If this recipe does not work for the coconut milk I would go to the good nutrition forum and ask the same thing. They are very wise about culturing anything under the sun - esp. on the NT thread (nourishing traditions)

http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes.html

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See links at very bottom of page...
http://www.giprohealth.com/starter.html

research review articles on:

Immunologic Effects of Yogurt

Yogurt and Gut Function

Yogurt Influences Intestinal Health
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Jane, would you choose yogurt over kefir? I make kefir because the milk is not heated at all. We only consume raw dairy, so to me it seems a shame having to heat the milk to make the yogurt.

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