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#1 of 12 Old 08-15-2010, 02:47 AM - Thread Starter
 
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my friend's daughter was a fine and healthy baby til her mother decided to allow the doctors to catch up with her shots around age 3. not only did the little girl get super dosed she tested high for lead exposure. now she is a drooling, non speaking child with a vacant stare. she has to attend a special needs school. her mother said the doctor finally signed the medical vax exemption. it is obvious there is permanent damage. could the high level of lead caused the ultra sensitivity to to vax toxins? my 4 year old son also had lead poisoning but is not vaccinated. it took a year for the lead levels to drop and thankfully no lasting effects. any input or experiences appreciated.

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Do vaccines contain lead?

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Do vaccines contain lead?
I haven't heard of it before. However, I didn't know until recently that many kids juices, organic and non alike, contain lead.
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I'm so sorry about your friend's little girl.

As to vaccines and lead, well- if the kid is already lead poisioned I would really be afraid to give him anything that might cause additional neurological damage, at least till all the lead is out of his system. The doctors grudgingly allow that you shouldn't vaccinate a child if they are ill with a fever why else would they say that if giving a vaccine to an ill child might harm them?

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I haven't heard of it before. However, I didn't know until recently that many kids juices, organic and non alike, contain lead.
Ugghh. What about drinking water? We primarily drink Ozarka spring water. I wonder if it has any lead. I hope not. I don't really know what we'd drink if we couldn't drink Ozarka.

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Ugghh. What about drinking water? We primarily drink Ozarka spring water. I wonder if it has any lead. I hope not. I don't really know what we'd drink if we couldn't drink Ozarka.
I don't know. I'd be more concerned about BPA in the water than lead in that situation. I doubt any bottling company is using lead pipes now, but I could be wrong. If I have to get bottled water, I always look for Penta first. I am not familiar with Ozarka.
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Ozarka appears to be owned by Nestle. For that reason alone, I would maybe question the quality of the water. If you are worried, see if a local water company will test the water. Some do it for free even.
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Lead is a heavy metal.

Some vaccines conatin other heavy metals. Did the mother get a flu shot while pregnant? Does she have amalgams in her mouth?

Some vaccines have aluminum in them that create a synergistic toxicity with other metals such as lead and thimerosol. In addition individual susceptibility adds to the complexity of exposure and resulting outcomes.

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Mercury and lead are extremely neurotoxic and cytotoxic, but their combined synergistic effect is much worse(1,4). A dose of mercury sufficient to kill 1% of tested rats, when combined with a dose of lead sufficient to kill less than 1% of rats, resulted in killing 100 % of rats tested(1a,4). Thus with combined exposure the safe dose is 1/100 as much as the dose individually. Studies in Australia have confirmed similar relationships hold for people(6). This means most people in the U.S. are getting dangerous levels of these metals, enough to cause some neurologic effects.
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I think Marnica is right. If what you said is true and the child was ALREADY lead toxic before even having the vaccines then getting such vaccinations put her over the tipping point, as they likely contained some mercury (trace amounts are even admitted by the manufacturer) and aluminum is in a lot of them too, some brands worse than others, just to mention a few already known ingredients for metals.

What is the mother doing now to help her daughter recover? Chelation may go a long way in this instance, not just for lead but for all the other heavy metals as well. See a naturopath or DAN dr immediately.

I don't think the OP was implying that vaccines contained lead btw. She was questioning the use of vaccines in a child that was already testing high for lead. I have read many of the manufacturers inserts in the past and don't recall any specific instructions regarding this (such as: don't vaccinate if child has a high body burden of lead, or: have child tested for lead before vaccinating etc) but it would be a good idea, although wishful thinking, that they would include such a statement.

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I'm currently reading a book by Libby Mcdonald called The Toxic Sandbox.  I recommend it in regards to your concerns on lead.  

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I think Marnica is right. If what you said is true and the child was ALREADY lead toxic before even having the vaccines then getting such vaccinations put her over the tipping point, as they likely contained some mercury (trace amounts are even admitted by the manufacturer) and aluminum is in a lot of them too, some brands worse than others, just to mention a few already known ingredients for metals.
 

If the child was given a flu shot, it likely was from a multi-use vial, preserved with 25 micrograms of mercury (FAR more than a trace amount). Worse, if it was her first time getting a flu shot, they would have given her 2 doses.  :(  In the last couple of years, they have been giving flu shots to women in all stages of pregnancy, in spite of the warning on the package insert that states that safety/efficacy studies have not been done on pregnant mammals.

 

90% of the flu shots available are preserved with thimerosal.  There is no ban on thimerosal-preserved vaccines. The industry began to produce thimerosal-free vaccines (packaged in individual dose, preloaded syringes) as a voluntary measure.


They continue to produce and export thimerosal-preserved pediatric vaccines to less developed nations. Also, ADULT versions of vaccines come in multi-use vials, preserved with thimerosal, here in the US.


The FluMist vaccine does NOT contain thimerosal.  However, it is contraindicated in pregnant women children under 3.

 

And that's just thimerosal.  Aluminum vaccines is a whole new can of worms. Incidentally, chemists are warned never to mix thimerosal with aluminum...

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Hi.

To bad this interview is in Italian, but for thous that don't speak Italian, thy could try to translate it with google translator.

Basically this doctor, under request of the university of Parma ( I ) carried out a series of analysis on vaccines, in his lab, that is considered one of Europe most renamed and trust able.

Thy analyzed 24 vaccines, and all 24 contained nano particles of lead, iron and other heavy metals, that he says just shouldn't be there.

There have been made also a report on this issue, but was never aired.

He handed over the information to local authority, asking to investigate it, but nothing happened.

It looks like that big pharma has his tentacles everywhere.

I am convinced that FDA approved vaccines, contain toxic components, that just shouldn't be there.

My question is: Is there an alternative to the FDA approved vaccines?

 

http://www.signoraggio.it/vaccini-al-piombo-intervista-a-stefano-montanari-video/

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