Nonvaccinated Are Blamed for Spreading Vaccine-Created Polio - Mothering Forums

 
Thread Tools
#1 of 4 Old 09-23-2012, 10:35 AM - Thread Starter
 
Mirzam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sophia's Correction
Posts: 8,200
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 327 Post(s)

http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/2012-09-22/nonvaccinated-are-blamed-for-spreading-vaccine-created-polio/

 

The CDC are now calling the unvaccinated "immunodeficient", and their immune systems deviant. As immundeficient, they are being blamed for passing on a disease they have never encountered - vaccine-derived polioviruses (VDPVs).

 

 

 

 

Quote:

Even with their twisted logic, the truth can’t really be hidden. The cause of these new and virulent variants of polio is the vaccine itself. So why this blame on the unvaccinated? It’s one of the oldest tricks used to push a plan or idea: redirection. If you can get people to focus on the wrong thing, you can twist the issue. That’s what’s being done here. This is part of the goal of forcing vaccinations on everyone. By making the innocent sound guilty, the true guilt can be ignored, and the plans of the genuinely guilty can be pushed forward.

 

 

 

 

BeckyBird likes this.

You cannot become anything but more beautiful.
Mirzam is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
#2 of 4 Old 09-24-2012, 02:43 AM
 
prosciencemum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: United Kingdom (have lived previously in the USA).
Posts: 2,061
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 342 Post(s)

Here's the source article from the CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6137a3.htm

 

I don't think they are called people who didn't get the vaccine "immunodeficient", I think they are saying that some people who get the vaccine do not develop immunity to polio because they are immunodeficient, and so are at risk from getting polio from the vaccine. 

 

The language of the report isn't so transparent though so if anyone with more (any!) medical training could comment that would be helpful. :) 

 

In fact the more I read of it, the more it's clear they're not link not having vaccine (which they call "low OPV coverage") with immunodeficiency. Seems that the blog writer at Gaia health needs to read a bit more carefully before spreading this kind of misinformation.


Mother of two living in UK. Daughter (2007) born in USA, son (2010) born here. I'm pro natural birth, midwife care, breastfeeding, co-sleeping, baby wearing and a keen advocate of cloth diapering. I'm a full time working research scientist (physical sciences). Vaccines save lives.
prosciencemum is online now  
#3 of 4 Old 09-24-2012, 03:53 AM
 
emmy526's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,807
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 30 Post(s)

why are they giving immunodeficient people a vaccine their bodies can't handle and in turn causes the  disease?    

Quote:
Originally Posted by prosciencemum View Post

Here's the source article from the CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6137a3.htm

 

I don't think they are called people who didn't get the vaccine "immunodeficient", I think they are saying that some people who get the vaccine do not develop immunity to polio because they are immunodeficient, and so are at risk from getting polio from the vaccine. 

 

The language of the report isn't so transparent though so if anyone with more (any!) medical training could comment that would be helpful. :) 

 

In fact the more I read of it, the more it's clear they're not link not having vaccine (which they call "low OPV coverage") with immunodeficiency. Seems that the blog writer at Gaia health needs to read a bit more carefully before spreading this kind of misinformation.

emmy526 is online now  
#4 of 4 Old 09-24-2012, 04:07 AM
 
prosciencemum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: United Kingdom (have lived previously in the USA).
Posts: 2,061
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 342 Post(s)

Presumably they didn't know in advance that they were immunodeficient - some details for specific countries are listed at the bottom of the article. 


Mother of two living in UK. Daughter (2007) born in USA, son (2010) born here. I'm pro natural birth, midwife care, breastfeeding, co-sleeping, baby wearing and a keen advocate of cloth diapering. I'm a full time working research scientist (physical sciences). Vaccines save lives.
prosciencemum is online now  
Reply


User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Online Users: 18,663

199 members and 18,464 guests
aardbei , agentofchaos , Aillidh , Ajbaby , AlaskAnne , alicenwonderlan , americanjuly , angeebaby , Anne Jividen , Auntiebobo , BabySmurf , bananabee , BarefootBrooke , blessedwithboys , blissful_maia , bren94 , Brittee , bruna , calico_aster , Calleiah , Celestical , [email protected] , Cherry_Blossom , chickabiddy , Crazybean , Crimson8 , cynthia mosher , Daisy8s , Dakotacakes , darlini76 , dayloveme , dbsam , Deborah , DesertSunsets , D_Platt , eazar , EllaD , elliha , Emanresu , emmy526 , EMRguy , EnviroBecca , erica812 , Ethelpea , Evansmom80 , farmermomma , Fatimid , featherstory , forestfoster , frugalmama , fruitfulmomma , FyerFly , gooseberry , Grace Wisdom , greenemami , GrowthSpurt , happyhats , healthy momma , hillymum , hsac1301 , Hybrid Mama , ian'smommaya , iceface , IsaFrench , jaimezee , JamieCatheryn , japonica , Jenni H. , JennyT , JHardy , JLUK , julyaugust , K703 , Kate&Joey , katelove , kathymuggle , Kelleybug , kitchensqueen , kyradark333 , lightheartedmom , lilacvioletiris , lilgreen , lilmissgiggles , LiLStar , LilyTiger , Linda on the move , loba , lolo77 , LorenaAZ , LoveNFaith522 , mama2004 , mama24-7 , Mama2ChicknLil , mamabear0314 , mamabear81 , mandamamma , mariagalucci , marilyn612 , MCatLvrMom2A&X , Medlar , MeepyCat , meowmix , midstreammama , Milk8shake , Mirzam , missmink , MissMuffet , MnMtm , Mosquito_Chaser , MPsSweetie , MrsKoehn , muddie , NaturallyKait , Nemi27 , new-wifey , newmamalizzy , NightOwlwithowlet , nikkialys , NiteNicole , nwlove , oaksie68 , onemommyonemama , OurGift , Peony , PitBullMom , pokeyac , prosciencemum , pumabearclan , quantumleap , rabbitmomma , RachelCap , rainydaywoman , rcb215 , Rebeccamorrish , Rico'sAlice , RosemaryV , rubelin , Ruthiegirl , samaxtics , SandiMae , sarafl , Serafina33 , sewingmama , sgnorton123 , shantimama , Shmootzi , shoeg8rl , sillysapling , Siobhan Anne , skj2011 , smiller , sofreshsoclean , Springshowers , starlein26 , SummerStorm22 , Super Pickle , SweetSilver , Taximom5 , TealCandy , teamsalem , thekoz , thtr4me , Tigerle , Tigerlily17 , transpecos , TrishWSU , Turner58800 , typebug , ummsby , Viola P , Voondrop , wassernixe , whitty , Wild Rose , yarnsurgeon , zzzzzzane
Most users ever online was 449,755, 06-25-2014 at 12:21 PM.