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http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/2012-09-22/nonvaccinated-are-blamed-for-spreading-vaccine-created-polio/

 

The CDC are now calling the unvaccinated "immunodeficient", and their immune systems deviant. As immundeficient, they are being blamed for passing on a disease they have never encountered - vaccine-derived polioviruses (VDPVs).

 

 

 

 

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Even with their twisted logic, the truth can’t really be hidden. The cause of these new and virulent variants of polio is the vaccine itself. So why this blame on the unvaccinated? It’s one of the oldest tricks used to push a plan or idea: redirection. If you can get people to focus on the wrong thing, you can twist the issue. That’s what’s being done here. This is part of the goal of forcing vaccinations on everyone. By making the innocent sound guilty, the true guilt can be ignored, and the plans of the genuinely guilty can be pushed forward.

 

 

 

 

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Here's the source article from the CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6137a3.htm

 

I don't think they are called people who didn't get the vaccine "immunodeficient", I think they are saying that some people who get the vaccine do not develop immunity to polio because they are immunodeficient, and so are at risk from getting polio from the vaccine. 

 

The language of the report isn't so transparent though so if anyone with more (any!) medical training could comment that would be helpful. :) 

 

In fact the more I read of it, the more it's clear they're not link not having vaccine (which they call "low OPV coverage") with immunodeficiency. Seems that the blog writer at Gaia health needs to read a bit more carefully before spreading this kind of misinformation.


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why are they giving immunodeficient people a vaccine their bodies can't handle and in turn causes the  disease?    

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Here's the source article from the CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6137a3.htm

 

I don't think they are called people who didn't get the vaccine "immunodeficient", I think they are saying that some people who get the vaccine do not develop immunity to polio because they are immunodeficient, and so are at risk from getting polio from the vaccine. 

 

The language of the report isn't so transparent though so if anyone with more (any!) medical training could comment that would be helpful. :) 

 

In fact the more I read of it, the more it's clear they're not link not having vaccine (which they call "low OPV coverage") with immunodeficiency. Seems that the blog writer at Gaia health needs to read a bit more carefully before spreading this kind of misinformation.

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Presumably they didn't know in advance that they were immunodeficient - some details for specific countries are listed at the bottom of the article. 


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