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Old 12-19-2012, 12:43 PM - Thread Starter
 
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1) No child with atopic eczema or other skin disorder should be vaccinated. 2) No child should be vaccinated if any member of his family has eczema or other skin disorder. 3) Parents of children with eczema should be notified at the onset of the disease of the danger from vaccination contact. 4) If a sibling of a child with atopic eczema is vaccinated, he must be completely separated from that child for at least 21 days. 5) Forms used by state and local health departments for parents' consent to vaccination should include an appropriate warning of the contraindications.

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This is from 1958.
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And only applies to small pox vaccination.

http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/54/6/832.abstract
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So, what about the smallpox vaccine makes this a reason for not getting the vaccination? I would imagine if one vaccine has this as a contraindications there is at least another out there...I know it's not science but..really? And just because it's old info doesn't make it any less relevant..in fact it would make me question the other shots that much more.

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Old 12-19-2012, 01:01 PM
 
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Ok, defective skin barrier functioning, isn't that an auto immune thing though, the body being over active like that? Which could be systemic..so then we are bypassing the whole defective skin barrier and injecting interesting things past it? Doesn't make much sense to me. It is possible that it could only be in a small percentage of people but, I would hate to be in at percentage. As it is, I have my own skin issues and I know whats its like to be extremely itchy and red on a fairly regular basis.

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Very interesting, indeed!
Eczema and other allergies run in both our families, and my first born was acutely impacted by the vaccination schedule that she was subjected to. Deep, long-lasting health issues developed that correlated with vaccination. In the case of my second baby, we have not vaccinated her at all, and cannot imagine doing so in the future.

 

So, it seems that in our case, at least, these words of warning would have made a world of difference.

Makes me sad.

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The smallpox vaccine actually infects people with vaccinia. Vaccinia is an actual disease and can be passed to other people.  It is typically very mild and remains localized tothe injection site, but can cause serious illness occasionally in those with eczema (or a few other skin conditions too) whether the were actually vaccinated with it or whether they catch it from someone else.  

 

Vaccinia is very closely related to cowpox virus, the original virus used in the smallpox vaccine.  Cowpox is very, very rare, but it is still around and people do occasionally become infected with it, usually from cats who get it from rodents they catch, rodents being the most common carriers.  Cowpox is also generally a very mild illness, but it carries the same risk of serious or even fatal illness in rare cases in people with eczema.  

 

Patients with eczema shouldn't be vaccinated for smallpox not because it is a vacine but because infection with these pox viruses, whether naturally or by vaccination, has a greater risk for those with eczema.  Are measles, mumps, rubella, pertussis, etc. much more dangerous than usual when combined with eczema?  I couldn't say for sure, but I've never heard anything of the sort.  I don't think that saying eczema is a contraindication for smallpox vaccine has any meaning at all in regards to other vaccines unrelated to pox virus. 

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What in the world?

 

What was the point of posting this?  It is 54 year old article regarding a contraindication to a vaccine that is no longer given to children for a disease that has been eradicated.  

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