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Pek, you're being ridiculous. We're not making this stuff up.
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Dr. Sears' review of aluminum in vaccines:
http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/vaccines/vaccine-faqs

Dr sears doesn't do a great job, IMO, with aluminum. He way oversimplifies it and overstates the dangers.
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Pek, you're being ridiculous. We're not making this stuff up.


Neither am I. Just because you and/or the vaccine manufacturers want for the vaccine to go into the lymph system does not mean it *does* go into the lymph system.

And resorting to insults instead of information shows your poor position.
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I'm not insulting you, I'm describing your behavior. Accurately. This is like a blind person saying the sky is red and then refusing to believe anyone who says its blue.
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Guidelines specify talking about the issues and not each other. Please edit to remove personal attack., Rrrrachel.
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I'm not insulting you, I'm describing your behavior. Accurately. This is like a blind person saying the sky is red and then refusing to believe anyone who says its blue.

Pot calling kettle........

 

It works both ways you know.


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I'm not aware of when I've denied the basic nature of how the immune system works, but ok.
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Also, pek, you realize te link you posted didn't say injecting insulin into the interstitial space moved it directly into the blood stream, rather they measure an increase in the LYMPH SYSTEM.
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And I provided a link that shows insulin, injected the same way as vaccines, goes into the bloodstream. Therefore, vaccines do as well.

You do realize that insulin is a completely different substance than a vaccine and the body is able to recognize this and react accordingly right?
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We've received a few flags from this thread. As many of your know the guidelines for Vax Discussion and Debate vary from the general forum guidelines. Those flagging and those participating in personal debate can refresh for the UA. I am not asking for edits - just a review. Thanks!  

 

 

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As for the OP at least that article was reporting on the 2010 report and its implications for today. Still the article's title is pretty misleading and sensational, IMO.  I recently saw a 2010 article on this subject floating around on a health FB site as if it was current news (the date of the article was not included and one had to search for the origin of the story...grrr!) . That same site posted another dubious photo/link combination that I felt was misleading. They are one strike away from a mean old "unfriending" from me. orngtongue.gif Of course I think lots of groups do this but I subscribe mostly to alternative sites so I see it more from that perspective. The perception that "we" alternative types are easily dunked and etc. is not helped by stuff like this. Mirzam, I'm not meaning to dig on your link - I think the article itself is fine but wonder why they chose the title they did. I would have preferred something like, "The 2010 ban on the flu vaccine continues in Australia."  (if that is infact true?) 


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Alright. I've been busy the past couple of days, but I have some time, now.

ICM, I think you have let our past disagreement color your judgment. There is a difference between an interjection and name calling.

Rrrrachel, here is a better explaination of how the lymph and circulatory systems work in conjunction with each other.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CE4QFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ehow.com%2Fhow-does_5004821_lymphatic-system-interact-cardiovascular-system.html&ei=ZJAhUdjfNIjuqQHg84D4Cg&usg=AFQjCNHsvNuTLsxUUCNzM3Co2hmdIYRJew&sig2=xzbUdLta1khhA6W_Qzcrmw
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Like I said like 40 posts ago, it ends up in the blood stream after passing through the lymph system. It is not injected directly into the bloodstream.
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